What's on Your Mind in Politics?

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    May 20, 2014 4:50 PM GMT
    This is just like the original WOYM, but about politics. When you have something that you want to say but don't feel like starting a thread, now you have a place to say it.
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    May 20, 2014 4:53 PM GMT
    I really get irritated when I mockingly correct someone who calls a moderate Republican a RHINO instead of RINO and they don't get that I am making fun of them. argh!

    It's like they don't even know what they are writing.
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    May 20, 2014 5:09 PM GMT
    Is there actually a political compass anymore ?
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    May 20, 2014 7:13 PM GMT
    i prefer the term governance than politics
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    May 20, 2014 7:16 PM GMT
    When they use the term that they are in power instead of that they have been elected.
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    May 20, 2014 7:28 PM GMT
    When I was a kid my dad once mentioned to me that excons who had finished their prison terms could be denied the right to vote even afterwards. I couldn't believe that that could be constitutional. I still can't believe it.
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    May 20, 2014 7:33 PM GMT
    I support Progressivism.
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    May 20, 2014 7:36 PM GMT
    Republicans in the US today have the same problem the Labour Party faced in the UK in the 1990's: it's policies were controlled by a strident minority far from the moderate "Centre ". After four successive electoral defeats the Party bought into Tony Blair's view that it had to ditch the extremism and pick moderate policies that could appeal to the majority of the "undecided" voters. Labour won the next three elections (the first two in a row).

    The Republicans need to ditch the social conservative policies and concentrate on economic conservatism is they want avoid becoming a rump of a party. Democracy works best when people have viable choices. A weak opposition simply encourages arrogance, entitlement and at worst poor governance when a dominant party effectively the "natural" governing party.

    The US, unlike Canada, is effectively a two-party state and people don't like consistently losing. My bet is that pragmatism will ultimately win over and Republicans will choose a Leader with Latino credentials who is willing to play down social conservatism.

    That's how this Canadian sees it.



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    May 20, 2014 7:53 PM GMT
    KXD7 saidI support Progressivism.
    I support my legs
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    May 20, 2014 8:06 PM GMT
    duluthrunner saidWhen I was a kid my dad once mentioned to me that excons who had finished their prison terms could be denied the right to vote even afterwards. I couldn't believe that that could be constitutional. I still can't believe it.


    I think in some states they have been given the right back. Or at least have given them a glimmer of hope. It was something that was started by our former Governor Crist. Governor Scott however has not seemed to care to continue the process, so most people who have applied for that right back have not actually received it and probably won't until another governor gets elected. In some minds, all ex-cons vote Democrat.
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    May 20, 2014 8:07 PM GMT
    Dennis89 said
    KXD7 saidI support Progressivism.
    I support my legs


    My legs support me.
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    May 20, 2014 8:12 PM GMT
    dudewithabeard said
    Dennis89 said
    KXD7 saidI support Progressivism.
    I support my legs


    My legs support me.
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  • AMoonHawk

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    May 20, 2014 8:14 PM GMT
    Will we ever get to the point where we are not voting for the least worst .... that's politicians for you icon_lol.gif
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    May 20, 2014 8:20 PM GMT
    We have a totally fucked-up idea of punishment in this country.

    We theoretically sentence people to limited terms (other than death or life sentences). We then make it nearly impossible for them to work their way back into society, by denying jobs to people with criminal records, keeping them from voting, and basically giving them very little alternative to going back to crime. Then we clutch our pearls about 'recidivism".

    The problem, of course, is race, as with most fucked-up things. Denial of voting rights to ex-cons began in the South as a part of Jim Crow, with obvious intention, and spread to the rest of the country. In theory, if someone has served his time he has paid his societal debt and full citizenship should be restored. But since blacks constitute a disproportional percentage of inmates, it serves a lot of purposes to deny them their rights: Democrats get to look tough on crime (though how this contributes is puzzling except viscerally) and Republicans get to keep icky dark Democratic-voting people from exercising their franchise.

    And what about "sexual predator databases"? These effectively keep people from living anywhere or working either. While these people were not locked up for robbery or theft, the inability to live anywhere decent or get employed means that many of them will turn to that kind of crime anyway. Since people by and large are fond of eating.
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    May 20, 2014 8:25 PM GMT
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    May 20, 2014 8:27 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidWill we ever get to the point where we are not voting for the least worst .... that's politicians for you icon_lol.gif
    Couldnt agree more haha
  • Aodhan

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    May 20, 2014 8:29 PM GMT
    Only one party, Sinn Fein in Northern Ireland is going for Gay Marriage. Ironically it is the party that has Roman Catholic support. All the other parties are traditional bastards who hate each other.
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    May 20, 2014 8:30 PM GMT
    Did you know?, it appears the tea party movement started in Michigan with the only state having known 'Reagan Democrats'. These people were un-educated blue collar white people, Republicans didn't want them. This would kind of explain the animosity between the tea party faction and the establishment republican party, wouldn't it? It would also explain Ted Nugent

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_Democrat



    Reagan democrats were primarily "immigrants and first-and second-generation Serbs, Poles, Czechs, Russians, Ukrainians, Hungarians, and others who had escaped Stalin or Hitler and consequently were intensely anti-Communist and antisocialist" and not "interested in being dependent upon government." He underlines that these fresh immigrants "could or should have been Republicans" but were not, "largely because the snobby Republicans didn’t want them," which is what on previous occasions drove them to Democrats "voting for Adlai Stevenson, LBJ, and in 1968, 'Happy Warrior' Hubert Humphrey
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    May 20, 2014 8:37 PM GMT
    Aodhan saidOnly one party, Sinn Fein in Northern Ireland is going for Gay Marriage. Ironically it is the party that has Roman Catholic support. All the other parties are traditional bastards who hate each other.
    Their fairly right wing aint they ?
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    May 20, 2014 8:41 PM GMT
    lol aside from it all mixing up in my opinion the left = workers and the right = upper class as become less about what they are actually for, the left is less about workers and more about middle class, the right is less about traditionalism and more about money and big business.

    Left and right politics originate in France where if you sat on the right of the king you supported him and if on the left you where either against him or had less of a opinion for him to be in power.
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    May 20, 2014 8:52 PM GMT
    Dennis89 saidlol aside from it all mixing up in my opinion the left = workers and the right = upper class as become less about what they are actually for, the left is less about workers and more about middle class, the right is less about traditionalism and more about money and big business.

    Left and right politics originate in France where if you sat on the right of the king you supported him and if on the left you where either against him or had less of a opinion for him to be in power.

    Um, 1/2 right.
    They started in France but it was during the French Revolution. The Chambre des Deputés was arranged with the liberals on the left and the reactionaries on the right.
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    May 20, 2014 8:53 PM GMT
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    Dennis89 saidlol aside from it all mixing up in my opinion the left = workers and the right = upper class as become less about what they are actually for, the left is less about workers and more about middle class, the right is less about traditionalism and more about money and big business.

    Left and right politics originate in France where if you sat on the right of the king you supported him and if on the left you where either against him or had less of a opinion for him to be in power.

    Um, 1/2 right.
    They started in France but it was during the French Revolution. The Chambre des Deputés was arranged with the liberals on the left and the reactionaries on the right.
    icon_biggrin.gif your like the auto correct this site doesnt have available to use yet haha thanks !! icon_smile.gif
  • Aodhan

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    May 20, 2014 9:09 PM GMT
    Dennis89 said
    Aodhan saidOnly one party, Sinn Fein in Northern Ireland is going for Gay Marriage. Ironically it is the party that has Roman Catholic support. All the other parties are traditional bastards who hate each other.
    Their fairly right wing aint they ?


    its who I'm going to vote for anyway! I wantz to get married
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    May 20, 2014 9:12 PM GMT
    Aodhan said
    Dennis89 said
    Aodhan saidOnly one party, Sinn Fein in Northern Ireland is going for Gay Marriage. Ironically it is the party that has Roman Catholic support. All the other parties are traditional bastards who hate each other.
    Their fairly right wing aint they ?


    its who I'm going to vote for anyway! I wantz to get married


    they didn't nail Gerry Adams icon_smile.gif now you guys just need to ditch the Brits
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    May 20, 2014 9:22 PM GMT
    tj85016 said
    Aodhan said
    Dennis89 said
    Aodhan saidOnly one party, Sinn Fein in Northern Ireland is going for Gay Marriage. Ironically it is the party that has Roman Catholic support. All the other parties are traditional bastards who hate each other.
    Their fairly right wing aint they ?


    its who I'm going to vote for anyway! I wantz to get married


    they didn't nail Gerry Adams icon_smile.gif now you guys just need to ditch the Brits


    hahaha love this comment! The brits can stay as long as the vote for gay marriage.