'How To Train Your Dragon 2' Character Gobber The Belch Will Come Out As (SPOILER ALERT)

  • metta

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    May 20, 2014 6:02 PM GMT
    'How To Train Your Dragon 2' Character Gobber The Belch Will Come Out As Gay

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/19/how-to-train-your-dragon-gay-character-_n_5352702.html
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    May 20, 2014 6:09 PM GMT
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    May 20, 2014 11:59 PM GMT
    dude, seriously? not cool. Warn people before you post fucking spoilers, don't go sticking them in the THREAD TITLE
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    May 21, 2014 8:18 AM GMT
    It says the character just says "that's why I never got married" when he sees a husband and wife arguing.

    Funny how people are reacting to it, though. the first movie was about people overcoming their prejudices towards a race of creatures they had been fighting against for years, and also had a hero who didn't really fit in with his people's culture, but they came round to accepting him after seeing all the things he achieved throughout the story, and a father who disowns his son at one point and ends up forming an even tighter bond with him by the end of the film. So there's all these positive messages about acceptance and tolerance, but somebody mentions being gay, and people are saying "I'm not taking my kids to see that. Hope it flops."
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    May 21, 2014 12:36 PM GMT
    NO ONE CARESicon_twisted.gif
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    May 21, 2014 3:12 PM GMT
    A character from a damn cartoon movie? A movie for children? Give me a break...seriously. Do kids really need to be exposed to this kind of thing?
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    May 21, 2014 3:49 PM GMT
    Steel101 saidA character from a damn cartoon movie? A movie for children? Give me a break...seriously. Do kids really need to be exposed to this kind of thing?


    Exposed to the existence of gay people....yes...yes they do.
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    May 21, 2014 8:48 PM GMT
    Steel101 saidA character from a damn cartoon movie? A movie for children? Give me a break...seriously. Do kids really need to be exposed to this kind of thing?


    Exposed to what kind of thing? As far as we know, the character just mentions not wanting to have a wife, and that's it. I don't think they're going to include scenes of butt sex.
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    May 21, 2014 11:27 PM GMT
    yeah... nothing wrong with being gay... if he was having sex with the dragon that would be bestiality. Which would be hot but not appropriate for a movie intended for children.

    Besides... we all know dragons prefer cars

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    May 21, 2014 11:50 PM GMT
    quite possibly the most pointless spoiler alert ever
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    May 21, 2014 11:55 PM GMT
    Pontifex saidyeah... nothing wrong with being gay... if he was having sex with the dragon that would be bestiality. Which would be hot but not appropriate for a movie intended for children.

    Besides... we all know dragons prefer cars

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    OMFG. This has to be the best dragon gif.
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    May 22, 2014 4:02 AM GMT
    new_forest_guy said
    Steel101 saidA character from a damn cartoon movie? A movie for children? Give me a break...seriously. Do kids really need to be exposed to this kind of thing?


    Exposed to what kind of thing? As far as we know, the character just mentions not wanting to have a wife, and that's it. I don't think they're going to include scenes of butt sex.


    And just because a character doesn't want a wife doesn't make him gay either...
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    May 22, 2014 4:05 AM GMT
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    Steel101 saidA character from a damn cartoon movie? A movie for children? Give me a break...seriously. Do kids really need to be exposed to this kind of thing?


    Exposed to the existence of gay people....yes...yes they do.


    I guess what I'm saying is that a movie shouldn't explain this concept to children. That's what parents are for. But we all know many parents have been slipping as of late. You're talking about a child's movie. Child, as in being that doesn't know about that kind of level of relationship or lifestyle. Putting a character that doesn't want a wife and then calling that character gay isn't going to make people more accepting of the gay lifestyle. It's just going to give a stereotype more power. Think about it...
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    May 22, 2014 9:47 AM GMT
    Steel101 said

    I guess what I'm saying is that a movie shouldn't explain this concept to children. That's what parents are for. But we all know many parents have been slipping as of late. You're talking about a child's movie. Child, as in being that doesn't know about that kind of level of relationship or lifestyle. Putting a character that doesn't want a wife and then calling that character gay isn't going to make people more accepting of the gay lifestyle. It's just going to give a stereotype more power. Think about it...


    Gobber is not exactly a stereotypically gay character. He's the armorer who provides weapons for all the other warriors, trains the kids on how to defend themselves and creates a prosthetic leg for the hero when he gets injured at the end of the movie. It's the more "grown up" cartoons that play into stereotypes with their homosexual characters.
    Gobber has an important role in the story, and his relationship status/sexuality doesn't even come into it, so the audience shouldn't really care.

    I haven't seen the sequel yet, so I can't really judge how they've gone about the subject, if they've included it at all, but my problem is with how people are reacting to the idea of a character being gay. We hear the word "gay" and we immediately think of what gay men get up to in bed with each other. When a male and female become romantically involved in a kids movie, does the audience immediately start to imagine what they get up to in bed? Maybe we should take our minds out of the gutter, and reserve judgment for when we've actually seen the movie.