Can Darwin and Eden Coexist?

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    May 21, 2014 2:16 AM GMT
    NYT: William Jennings Bryan earned a permanent place in American history nearly nine decades ago in the Scopes trial, when he stood in a courtroom here and successfully prosecuted a teacher who broke the law by teaching evolution in a public school.

    While not quite “the fantastic cross between a circus and a holy war,” as Time magazine put it, that captivated the nation in 1925, a similar debate is again playing out in Dayton, this time at an evangelical Christian college named for Bryan, which is being sued as part of a controversy over its own stance on the origin of humans.

    Since Bryan College’s founding in 1930, its statement of belief, which professors have to sign as part of their employment contracts, included a 41-word section summing up the institution’s conservative views on creation and evolution, including the statement: “The origin of man was by fiat of God.” But in February, college officials decided that professors had to agree to an additional clarification declaring that Adam and Eve “are historical persons created by God in a special formative act, and not from previously existing life-forms.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/21/education/christian-college-faces-uproar-after-bolstering-its-view-on-evolution.html?hp
  • Triggerman

    Posts: 528

    Jun 19, 2014 7:11 AM GMT
    I try to be logical. Raised Catholic but gave up on that group years ago. I am into logic, not mythology, though we can learn much from the myths of various peoples.

    I look at this this way: Could the Eden story make sense? Of course not. We can't have started from two people. DNA shows that. Biology shows that. Our diversity shows that.

    But, for my Christian friends that agree that Adam and Eve are probably more of an allegory than truth? Why Jesus? If Eve did not commit original sin by eating an apple, then there is no original sin.

    And, thus, no reason for a God to save us from the original sin by sending His Son to die for us.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jun 19, 2014 7:45 AM GMT
  • Triggerman

    Posts: 528

    Jun 19, 2014 7:49 AM GMT
    I don't respond to Videos. Not my world or my thing. I live in the real world most of the time.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jun 19, 2014 7:59 AM GMT
    Does he like apples?
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jun 19, 2014 8:01 AM GMT
    Triggerman saidI don't respond to Videos. Not my world or my thing. I live in the real world most of the time.
    The video isn't a reply to your post. It's an excerpt from an XBox game that pokes fun at the idiocy of religion. You'll laugh your ass off. icon_wink.gif
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jun 19, 2014 8:02 AM GMT
    GAMRican saidDoes he like apples?
    You can't compare apples with oranges when its bananas in the nut bread.
  • Triggerman

    Posts: 528

    Jun 19, 2014 8:23 AM GMT
    I know. Thanks. I got it. Thanks
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jun 19, 2014 11:57 AM GMT
    21f4233944ba19483a4df6dcadd683b6.jpg
  • WrestlerBoy

    Posts: 1903

    Jun 19, 2014 9:41 PM GMT
    "But in February, college officials decided that professors had to agree to an additional clarification declaring that Adam and Eve “are historical persons created by God in a special formative act, and not from previously existing life-forms.” "

    Well, who the fuck would attend this "institution of higher education"? It's not rocket science to know that the Hebrew word "Adam" means RED CLAY (as in earth... cf. compare our backformed "CADMIUM"), and that's what it meant then.... and that's what it means now. So where are they getting this "historical PERSONS..." bullshit.

    Who cares what they "believe". They simply fail on the linguistic basis of their own... beliefs.
  • Apparition

    Posts: 3521

    Jun 20, 2014 1:41 AM GMT
    the theory of the lack of evolution is one of the most easily assailable parts of the bible...with the help of noah.


    Ask your local arkist if you can keep freshwater fish in a saltwater aquarium, or vice versa. Then ask if the rain that covered the entire earth was fresh or salt...and then say, then why do the other fish exist?
  • WrestlerBoy

    Posts: 1903

    Jun 20, 2014 3:49 AM GMT
    Apparition saidthe theory of the lack of evolution is one of the most easily assailable parts of the bible...with the help of noah.


    Ask your local arkist if you can keep freshwater fish in a saltwater aquarium, or vice versa. Then ask if the rain that covered the entire earth was fresh or salt...and then say, then why do the other fish exist?


    Oh no!!! GOD forBID, that this could all be.... an analogy???? icon_smile.gif

    Nicely put, man.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jun 21, 2014 12:36 AM GMT
    Apparition saidthe theory of the lack of evolution is one of the most easily assailable parts of the bible...with the help of noah.


    Ask your local arkist if you can keep freshwater fish in a saltwater aquarium, or vice versa. Then ask if the rain that covered the entire earth was fresh or salt...and then say, then why do the other fish exist?



    Or how the hell did all of those plants reappeared again after the flood. Didn't the flood killed off all plant life? lol
  • Apparition

    Posts: 3521

    Jul 03, 2014 10:53 PM GMT
    of course google maps also disproves eden. Since humans are banned from eden, and it is specifically located on earth (to prevent adam and eve TM from being aliens) yet we have a full sphere of pictures showing what is where.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 04, 2014 5:37 AM GMT
    kevex said
    Apparition saidthe theory of the lack of evolution is one of the most easily assailable parts of the bible...with the help of noah.


    Ask your local arkist if you can keep freshwater fish in a saltwater aquarium, or vice versa. Then ask if the rain that covered the entire earth was fresh or salt...and then say, then why do the other fish exist?



    Or how the hell did all of those plants reappeared again after the flood. Didn't the flood kill of all plant life? lol


    I am so using this! Not that I talk to stubborn christians anyways...
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Jul 11, 2014 10:02 PM GMT
    A friend of mine went to school there.

    Having grown up in that subculture of evangelical Christianity it's odd to read articles like that. Reminds me of where i came from- the good, bad and ugly of it.