Sometimes Am disgusted by gay community's shameless behavior!

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    May 23, 2014 6:52 AM GMT
    So, I just saw RuPaul saying that he loves the word 'tranny'.

    And Once again, I saw gay men and some transgender people defending him by using all sorts of crazy arguments!
    These are the same people who will pounce on any one who is not gay and using a slur.

    The same way many people in America turn their heads away when african american rappers use the 'n' word publicly but get outraged when Paula Deen uses it privately.

    I mean where do I start?
    A slur has a lot of negative effects on the psyche of many individuals and JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE OK WITH IT, that does not mean others should be ok with it too.
    If some stupid gay men want to use the word 'faggot' to describe themselves, be my guest but do not even think about saying that I SHOULD BE OK WITH IT.

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    May 23, 2014 7:20 AM GMT
    what did you expect from a DRAG QUEEN!

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    May 23, 2014 7:24 AM GMT
    OP needs to redo is picture and just blur or crop his face, and not blur his body.
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    May 23, 2014 11:47 AM GMT
    judgingyou saidApparently RuPaul defends it:
    http://www.queerty.com/bitch-you-need-to-get-stronger-rupaul-responds-to-activists-who-call-drag-race-transphobic-20140522

    1. Who appointed RuPaul head spokesperson of the trans community?
    2. "The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) state that the term is "usually considered offensive and/or defamatory" by members of the transgender community."
    3. Does RuPaul just sit back and let people call her "faggot" or "nigger"?
    4. Not that RuPaul touched on it, but other people quite frequently do, "freedom of speech" only protects you from being thrown in jail or charged for what you say. It does not protect you from other people insulting you, being banned from businesses or websites, being fired from jobs, etc. for what you say.
    5. Why is it soooooooooooooooooooo difficult for people just to be respectful and say "a trans person" instead of "tranny"? Yes, some people DO have issues that cause them to be vulnerable or sensitive. Is that their fault? No. Can they change it? Not as easily as you can stop using an offensive word. You gonna pay for all the therapy that those people are gonna go through to help them get through their issues, possibly through the form of tax to provide a mental health benefit? No? Then shut the fuck up.


    Many more people need to heed that last sentence!

    In my part of the world, a 'tranny' is what costs $3,000 to repair!
    A transexual runs a local B&B. :-)
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    May 23, 2014 12:56 PM GMT
    I have mixed feelings.

    I don't use the word "tranny" myself.

    However, if anyone thinks that RuPaul is transphobic or anything but supportive of trans folk and their issues, well, they're a bit nuts. He is nothing more than supportive - and takes great pains to educate the TV audience - when he has contestants or guests that are trans.

    I've seen people online calling him "cisgendered" with such a sneer. Really, folks? We shouldn't split hairs so finely that the one person who has almost singlehandedly made drag a socially acceptable form of expression in popular culture is too "straight" and bigoted.
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    May 23, 2014 1:35 PM GMT
    StudlyScrewRite said
    In my part of the world, a 'tranny' is what costs $3,000 to repair!

    In your part of the world, a young woman was recently rejected by her suitor because she was a virgin.
    "If she ain't good enough for her pappy or her brother, she ain't good enough for me!"
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    May 23, 2014 2:36 PM GMT
    O, the times, they are a changin'...

    http://blog.sfgate.com/culture/2014/05/22/trannyshack-changes-its-name-to-change-with-the-times/
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    May 23, 2014 2:38 PM GMT
    Why would you be disgusted by the whole community over the actions a few people? Are you disgusted by all straight people every time Rush Limbaugh opens his mouth?
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    May 23, 2014 3:02 PM GMT
    Calm down, drama queen.
  • PR_GMR

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    May 23, 2014 3:03 PM GMT
    Sweetooth saidCalm down, drama queen.


    This. Seriously. It's just a word. I've never understood the outrage over PC correctness.
  • HndsmKansan

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    May 23, 2014 3:07 PM GMT
    I can understand what you are saying, but I think it's the few, not the majority.. of us out there. We can always have specific "problem examples" in about any context.
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    May 23, 2014 3:07 PM GMT
    These words are only words until pejorative.
    For example, Harper Lee's racist characters using it in To Kill a Mockingbird.
    Apparently that offended a lot if folks.
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    May 23, 2014 3:24 PM GMT
    http://www.towleroad.com/2014/05/rupaulfringe.html
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    May 23, 2014 3:34 PM GMT
    I personally don't like the word. I think as that community becomes more respected in society that it has become more a slur. However I think it is one of those words that must be judged by the context that it is used. But we have to remember for people to use it so freely it in the minds of others giving them the right to use it and eventually in negative ways. And then other words become fair game, such as faggot and dyke. That's a road that I really don't want to go down again. It was exhausting then and as an older man it would be even more exhausting now.
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    May 23, 2014 3:41 PM GMT
    silver_bullet saidGreat the gay PC nazis will be shrieking hysterically about the use of the word "Queen" next. icon_rolleyes.gif

    I'm sure we can all start calling you a queen, if that'll make you feel better, little missy.
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    May 23, 2014 4:07 PM GMT
    dayumm saidO, the times, they are a changin'...

    http://blog.sfgate.com/culture/2014/05/22/trannyshack-changes-its-name-to-change-with-the-times/

    This really sums it up. We all have to be dynamic in who we are and what say and think. Times change, what was once acceptable may not always be acceptable and therefore we must recognize the offensiveness and change our ways.

    If a word is offensive, then don't use it. There are millions of words out there, are you to say that we can't find ONE to use instead of one that is offensive. And yet, here we are, giving example after example of 'role models' (or at least popular celebrities and musicians) who can't seem to find a Funk and Wagnall to look up a word that won't be offensive. It's not just a gay thing, it's a societal issue.
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    May 23, 2014 4:28 PM GMT
    IMO.... RuPaul loves being outrageous and inflammatory.

    For that reason alone, it would be incentive for her to use a negative connotative word like "tranny" for it's shock value and try to "shock" people with it, then stand up for herself with the "oh, I'm so cool I don't need social norms" defense.
  • tj85016

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    May 23, 2014 4:36 PM GMT
    wait, people still watch Ru Paul?
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    May 23, 2014 4:40 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidwait, people still watch Ru Paul?

    She has a Top Model-style reality show for drag queens.

    This is totally off the subject, but RuPaul's skin looks crazy-good for being over fifty. She looks the same as she did 20 years ago, and is actually out Tyra-ing Tyra Banks.
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    May 23, 2014 4:44 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    tj85016 saidwait, people still watch Ru Paul?

    She has a Top Model-style reality show for drag queens.

    This is totally off the subject, but RuPaul's skin looks crazy-good for being over fifty. She looks the same as she did 20 years ago, and is actually out Tyra-ing Tyra Banks.

    It's called make-up ... and lots and lots of it ... why do you think actors' skin look so smooth and unblemished on t.v. (does not stand for transvestite)? It is a distortion of reality.

    As for all the flaming ... God just look at the forums in this place .... you can't get anyone to agree on anything.
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    May 23, 2014 4:46 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk said
    HottJoe said
    tj85016 saidwait, people still watch Ru Paul?

    She has a Top Model-style reality show for drag queens.

    This is totally off the subject, but RuPaul's skin looks crazy-good for being over fifty. She looks the same as she did 20 years ago, and is actually out Tyra-ing Tyra Banks.

    It's called make-up ... and lots and lots of it ... why do you think actors' skin look so smooth and unblemished on t.v. (does not stand for transvestite)? It is a distortion of reality.

    If that were true, then everyone on TV would look the same age, wouldn't they?
  • HottJoe

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    May 23, 2014 4:48 PM GMT
    I bet Madonna wishes she had RuPaul's makeup artist. lmao.
  • AMoonHawk

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    May 23, 2014 5:07 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    AMoonHawk said
    HottJoe said
    tj85016 saidwait, people still watch Ru Paul?

    She has a Top Model-style reality show for drag queens.

    This is totally off the subject, but RuPaul's skin looks crazy-good for being over fifty. She looks the same as she did 20 years ago, and is actually out Tyra-ing Tyra Banks.

    It's called make-up ... and lots and lots of it ... why do you think actors' skin look so smooth and unblemished on t.v. (does not stand for transvestite)? It is a distortion of reality.

    If that were true, then everyone on TV would look the same age, wouldn't they?

    Here he is with minimal make-up (but you can bet, he is still wearing make-up here)
    hot-hmm-rupaul-jimmy-choo-for-event-the-
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    May 23, 2014 5:11 PM GMT
    This issue has been confusing ever since the first str8 man put on his wife's panties. Which pronoun is proper, him, her, does it depend on their outfit that day? What if a turtleneck is hiding the Adam's apple, her? Or the lipstick is applied mockingly, him?

    I tend, out of what I mean as respect, to use simply the term "trans", usually I'll say trans-person, referring to some sort of trans-sexuality. I do that especially because unless you know who that person is, you wouldn't necessarily know if that person is cross-dressing or if that person was post-op. So for me there needs to be an acceptable, generic reference when you don't know the specifics.
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    May 23, 2014 7:04 PM GMT
    We have a van in the UK made by Ford and its a Transit van and its called by everyone a "Tranny Van"