Straight guy went Psycho after numerous girls rejected him (UC Santa Barbara shooting)

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    May 24, 2014 9:40 PM GMT
    This is just sad and tragic. And He took it out on several sorority girls.

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    ***Brown said a YouTube video titled "Elliot Rodger's Retribution" appeared to be linked to the crime. In the video, a man who identifies himself as Elliot Rodger sits in the driver's seat of a car as he promises "retribution" and discusses his "loneliness, rejection and unfulfilled desires."

    "Girls gave their affection and sex and love to other men but never to me," he said in the video. He added that it would be his last video.


    http://abcnews.go.com/US/suspect-uc-santa-barbara-shooting-identified-family/story?id=23853918
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    May 24, 2014 9:41 PM GMT
    Another shooting?? You can't even go the fucking mall anymoreicon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 24, 2014 11:50 PM GMT
    Pretty Sad and may the souls RIP.

    Watching the video, the man was pretty troubled. Had it not been for the killings I would have tried to counter his thinking.

    In summary it means that the USA needs better measure of Gun Control!
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    May 25, 2014 12:01 AM GMT
    owl_bundy saidyou have a spoiled brat who gets pampered to the point where mommy and daddy doesn't let him face the realities of life, plus pathological narcissism in the mix and you get this disaster.

    for real..... dude literally went on a rampage because he expected women to flock all over him and couldn't take rejection. icon_lol.gif wtf was he thinking? most women will not pursue any guy period. some might give you signs BUT they ain't gonna be the ones to do the chasing. hell no. there's SOME brave ones that do BUT they are minority. most women ain't doing that shit. if you have no game and a backbone where you're willing to go, get shot down by a woman or too and put in that work, you aren't going to get shit. that's just life. he obviously wasn't taught by his parents that lesson especially considering he was stunting around in a bmw.

    sad enough, i see the same bullshit in the gay community where half of the guys are waiting for someone to approach them or say something, suffering from "entitlement issues". they think that guys will flock to them because they go to the gym, they're white, they're tall, they have a nice face, a big dick or some other shit. then when shit doesn't work out, they cry about how men suck, are fucked up or how they hate being gay. icon_lol.gif even if you're attractive or have a lot of money, a guy is not going to fall from the sky and into your lap. you better work. either accept your loneliness/being alone or do something about it. not this type of sorry ass shit though. this is not how you go about life.


    I don't think it's as simple as that. I think this has more to do with how mean people can be when rejecting someone. The guy apparently didn't fit in and wasn't allowed into friendship circles. Some people have better coping skills than others. You have to truly be at the end of your rope to take you own life, not to mention the lives of seven other people. You don't do something like this just because you're a "spoiled brat." You do this when you have nowhere else to turn (or feel like you don't.)
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    May 25, 2014 12:05 AM GMT
    we all have issues growing up
    no need to kill if you don't get
    your way
    GET PROFESSIONAL HELP YA FREAKS


    THE KILLER WAS A SNOT SHIT ASS SPOILED BRAT@@@@@@
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    May 25, 2014 12:09 AM GMT
    It was so creepy. I saw this online about 10 mins ago, and watched his "Retribution" YouTube video. His laugh is creepy. At first it's hard to tell if he's joking or being serious.

    I also think it brings up the question of unrealistic expectations, although his reality was obviously warped.
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    May 25, 2014 12:12 AM GMT
    This could be why ancient peoples used to sacrifice virgins. They knew what could happen.
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    May 25, 2014 12:14 AM GMT
    2Bnaked saidwe all have issues growing up
    no need to kill if you don't get
    your way
    GET PROFESSIONAL HELP YA FREAKS


    THE KILLER WAS A SNOT SHIT ASS SPOILED BRAT@@@@@@


    Supposedly he was getting help, maybe he just needed your advice of sunshine and going on naked hikes icon_rolleyes.gif

    His father was an assistant director in the "Hunger Games". Again I question his unrealistic view/expectations as being the cause for his apparent misery. He obviously had rage issues and supposedly belonged to an anti-female group.
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    May 25, 2014 12:18 AM GMT
    Guns don't kill people. Americans kill people.
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    May 25, 2014 12:18 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidThis could be why ancient peoples used to sacrifice virgins. They knew what could happen.


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    That was terrible and a little too soon after the incident. I mean he wasn't ugly, he was an average looking guy with some serious issues.
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    May 25, 2014 12:18 AM GMT
    “We don’t know if Elliot Rodger was mentally ill. We don’t know if he was a “madman.” We do know that he was desperately lonely and unhappy, and that the Men’s Rights Movement convinced him that his loneliness and unhappiness was intentionally caused by women.
    Because this is what the Men’s Rights Movement does: it spreads misogyny, it spreads violence, and most of all it spreads a sense of entitlement towards women’s bodies.
    Pretending that this is the a rare act perpetrated by a “crazy” person is disingenuous and also does nothing to address the threat of violence that women face every day. We can’t just write this one off – we need to talk about all of the fucked up parts of our culture, especially the movements that teach men that they have the right to dominate and intimidate and violate women, that lead to this, and we need to change things. Because if we don’t, I guarantee that this will happen again. And again. And again.”
    --Elliot Rodger And Men Who Hate Women
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    May 25, 2014 12:18 AM GMT
    AnOriginal said... He obviously had rage issues and supposedly belonged to an anti-female group.
    He was on RJ? icon_eek.gif
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    May 25, 2014 12:26 AM GMT
    owl_bundy said
    AnOriginal said
    2Bnaked saidwe all have issues growing up
    no need to kill if you don't get
    your way
    GET PROFESSIONAL HELP YA FREAKS


    THE KILLER WAS A SNOT SHIT ASS SPOILED BRAT@@@@@@


    Supposedly he was getting help, maybe he just needed your advice of sunshine and going on naked hikes icon_rolleyes.gif

    His father was an assistant director in the "Hunger Games". Again I question his unrealistic view/expectations as being the cause for his apparent misery. He obviously had rage issues and supposedly belonged to an anti-female group.


    yes, narcissistic rage.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_rage_and_narcissistic_injury


    FOR ALL or anyone who thinks KILLING is the answer......WRONG,,,,,,

    That's whats wrong. Kindness is not a 21 century virtue. Hell, even my own church can't even give a good definition of the meaning of KINDNESS......
    So be kind to others and work on personality skills and just don't panic, because you didn't get a kiss or a girl or A GUY!!!
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    May 25, 2014 12:27 AM GMT
    owl_bundy said
    Scruffypup said

    I don't think it's as simple as that. I think this has more to do with how mean people can be when rejecting someone. The guy apparently didn't fit in and wasn't allowed into friendship circles. Some people have better coping skills than others. You have to truly be at the end of your rope to take you own life, not to mention the lives of seven other people. You don't do something like this just because you're a "spoiled brat." You do this when you have nowhere else to turn (or feel like you don't.)


    man, are you seriously feeling sorry for the guy? i don't think that you're aware of the guy that we're speaking about.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgsBey7KX53-0qm-FSGTOyQ




    watch this video and listen to his rant. it's clear that he was a narcissist with entitlement issues that was spoiled rotten by his wealthy parents.

    i cannot sympathize with him. there's a shitload of guys in his position. the only difference between them and him is that they're realistic.


    All I'm saying is none of us know what the guy was going through when he did this. What appears as confidence to many is often an act to cover up insecurities and low self esteem. You yourself have talked about wanting to kill people before. Maybe you're able to stop your fantasies at talking about it, but some people are too damaged to do that. Hell, some people can't even tell a fantasy from reality. You can't just jump in and act like you know who this guy was and what he's been through when you know nothing about him. Abuse does crazy things to a person. Some people have the tools to handle that but some people don't. I think he was a very sick guy. Sane people don't do things like this.
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    May 25, 2014 12:27 AM GMT
    Neight said“We do know that...the Men’s Rights Movement convinced him that his loneliness and unhappiness was intentionally caused by women. "
    --Elliot Rodger And Men Who Hate Women


    Don't you ever question what you read? How did the author come to know this? Where is the referencing in the article? I call bull shit on her claims since there is no attribution in the article you cited, just a claim that the evidence was on some forum that oh so conveniently no longer exists. Yeah, right.
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    May 25, 2014 12:28 AM GMT
    ugh! This is just awful and confusing.

    This fuckface never had a hard day in his life. Driving a luxury car, from a rich family, boarding schools in London, and he's complaining about his life in the video?

    gimme a fucking break. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 25, 2014 12:30 AM GMT
    Import saidugh! This is just awful and confusing.

    This fuckface never had a hard day in his life. Driving a luxury car, from a rich family, boarding schools in London, and he's complaining about his life in the video?

    gimme a fucking break. icon_rolleyes.gif


    Not that I condone name calling.....but in this case, he is what you say and more so. HE'S A CRYBABY TO THE MAX!!!
    Hell awaits icon_twisted.gificon_evil.gif
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    May 25, 2014 12:46 AM GMT
    ∆ I was in no way taking a swipe at you. I was just trying to get you to understand how this guy might have felt, with the exception you might be able to stop it at a fantasy but he wasn't.
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    May 25, 2014 12:47 AM GMT
    2Bnaked said
    owl_bundy said
    AnOriginal said
    2Bnaked saidwe all have issues growing up
    no need to kill if you don't get
    your way
    GET PROFESSIONAL HELP YA FREAKS


    THE KILLER WAS A SNOT SHIT ASS SPOILED BRAT@@@@@@


    Supposedly he was getting help, maybe he just needed your advice of sunshine and going on naked hikes icon_rolleyes.gif

    His father was an assistant director in the "Hunger Games". Again I question his unrealistic view/expectations as being the cause for his apparent misery. He obviously had rage issues and supposedly belonged to an anti-female group.


    yes, narcissistic rage.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_rage_and_narcissistic_injury




    FOR ALL or anyone who thinks KILLING is the answer......WRONG,,,,,,

    That's whats wrong. Kindness is not a 21 century virtue. Hell, even my own church can't even give a good definition of the meaning of KINDNESS......
    So be kind to others and work on personality skills and just don't panic, because you didn't get a kiss or a girl or A GUY!!!


    Who ever said killing is ever acceptable?!?! Was this your attempt to make yourself seem correct. Yes, we all know murder is wrong, thank you for the lesson.

    I'm just sick of your very generalized "small minded" comments. Stop acting like you have all the answers to an individual's life -- you don't.

    There are plenty of people that can fall under the term mental illness. Whether it's generalized anxiety to OCD -- these people are NOT "freaks". Yes, he was an extreme case and ungrateful.

    There's a major problem in the USA where people aren't getting help that they need most likely due to stigmas and the good old American belief of "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps". US Military suicides have increased dramatically and the people of the USA shouldn't have to worry about stigmas being attached to them for seeking help, as you would if you had high cholesterol, an inability to produce insulin, or seizures.

    You've made it clear in previous posts where you stand on neuroscience and psychiatry. I just find your one-size-fits-all approach very naive and irritating.

    Yes, this guy was extremely messed up. He took 6 human beings away from their families right before memorial weekend.

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    May 25, 2014 12:57 AM GMT
    owl_bundy said
    Scruffypup said∆ I was in no way taking a swipe at you. I was just trying to get you to understand how this guy might have felt, with the exception you might be able to stop it at a fantasy but he wasn't.


    yeah, i can relate. most people can. i'm pretty sure you can too. i don't get why you said it like as if it's abnormal or something.



    I didn't say it that way. You took it that way. I'm sure most people have been angry enough to have violent fantasies, but we know it stops there. I can't say I've ever wanted to kill anyone but I've definitely fantasized about hurting someone in the past when I was very angry. But mentally ill people can have brains that don't function properly and we don't know what it's like to be them.
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    May 25, 2014 12:58 AM GMT
    AnOriginal said
    2Bnaked said
    owl_bundy said
    AnOriginal said
    2Bnaked saidwe all have issues growing up
    no need to kill if you don't get
    your way
    GET PROFESSIONAL HELP YA FREAKS


    THE KILLER WAS A SNOT SHIT ASS SPOILED BRAT@@@@@@


    Supposedly he was getting help, maybe he just needed your advice of sunshine and going on naked hikes icon_rolleyes.gif

    His father was an assistant director in the "Hunger Games". Again I question his unrealistic view/expectations as being the cause for his apparent misery. He obviously had rage issues and supposedly belonged to an anti-female group.


    yes, narcissistic rage.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_rage_and_narcissistic_injury




    FOR ALL or anyone who thinks KILLING is the answer......WRONG,,,,,,

    That's whats wrong. Kindness is not a 21 century virtue. Hell, even my own church can't even give a good definition of the meaning of KINDNESS......
    So be kind to others and work on personality skills and just don't panic, because you didn't get a kiss or a girl or A GUY!!!


    Who ever said killing is ever acceptable?!?! Was this your attempt to make yourself seem correct. Yes, we all know murder is wrong, thank you for the lesson.

    I'm just sick of your very generalized "small minded" comments. Stop acting like you have all the answers to an individual's life -- you don't.

    There are plenty of people that can fall under the term mental illness. Whether it's generalized anxiety to OCD -- these people are NOT "freaks". Yes, he was an extreme case and ungrateful.

    There's a major problem in the USA where people aren't getting help that they need most likely due to stigmas and the good old American belief of "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps". US Military suicides have increased dramatically and the people of the USA shouldn't have to worry about stigmas being attached to them for seeking help, as you would if you had high cholesterol, an inability to produce insulin, or seizures.

    You've made it clear in previous posts where you stand on neuroscience and psychiatry. I just find your one-size-fits-all approach naive and irritable.

    Yes, this guy was extremely messed up. He took 6 human beings away from their families right before memorial weekend.



    HE IS LAME LIKE THIS VIDEO REMINDS ME......


    Guns are at everyone's door step. I think this gives someone a chance to KILL for whatever reason. I do not think he was INSANE!!
    BINGO
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    May 25, 2014 1:01 AM GMT
    Focusing on luxury his life is a fantasy to many -

    Must hurt really bad for it not to add up to a relation.. lol

    " I have everything but a personality a person would want.".. bummer

    Thus, the gun.
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    May 25, 2014 1:09 AM GMT
    2Bnaked said
    AnOriginal said
    2Bnaked said
    owl_bundy said
    AnOriginal said
    2Bnaked saidwe all have issues growing up
    no need to kill if you don't get
    your way
    GET PROFESSIONAL HELP YA FREAKS


    THE KILLER WAS A SNOT SHIT ASS SPOILED BRAT@@@@@@


    Supposedly he was getting help, maybe he just needed your advice of sunshine and going on naked hikes icon_rolleyes.gif

    His father was an assistant director in the "Hunger Games". Again I question his unrealistic view/expectations as being the cause for his apparent misery. He obviously had rage issues and supposedly belonged to an anti-female group.


    yes, narcissistic rage.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_rage_and_narcissistic_injury




    FOR ALL or anyone who thinks KILLING is the answer......WRONG,,,,,,

    That's whats wrong. Kindness is not a 21 century virtue. Hell, even my own church can't even give a good definition of the meaning of KINDNESS......
    So be kind to others and work on personality skills and just don't panic, because you didn't get a kiss or a girl or A GUY!!!


    Who ever said killing is ever acceptable?!?! Was this your attempt to make yourself seem correct. Yes, we all know murder is wrong, thank you for the lesson.

    I'm just sick of your very generalized "small minded" comments. Stop acting like you have all the answers to an individual's life -- you don't.

    There are plenty of people that can fall under the term mental illness. Whether it's generalized anxiety to OCD -- these people are NOT "freaks". Yes, he was an extreme case and ungrateful.

    There's a major problem in the USA where people aren't getting help that they need most likely due to stigmas and the good old American belief of "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps". US Military suicides have increased dramatically and the people of the USA shouldn't have to worry about stigmas being attached to them for seeking help, as you would if you had high cholesterol, an inability to produce insulin, or seizures.

    You've made it clear in previous posts where you stand on neuroscience and psychiatry. I just find your one-size-fits-all approach naive and irritable.

    Yes, this guy was extremely messed up. He took 6 human beings away from their families right before memorial weekend.



    HE IS LAME LIKE THIS VIDEO REMINDS ME......


    Guns are at everyone's door step. I think this gives someone a chance to KILL for whatever reason. I do not think he was INSANE!!
    BINGO


    There are plenty of lame people in this world. I'd consider yourself one of them for even posting that video. Lame DOES NOT equate to a murderer -- are you a murderer?

    No one is trying to make an excuse for what he did. We are just commenting on what we think of him or what we think led to this.

    Seriously, go join Scientology you'd love it icon_wink.gif
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    May 25, 2014 1:12 AM GMT
    People are so materialistic about guns, that the laws have become so lax that anyone can get their hands on one and do whatever they want. It's dangerous that anyone can get a gun, because some people who have a psychotic break will reach for a gun and this is what happens. Keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous people has to be a priority.
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    May 25, 2014 1:16 AM GMT
    AnOriginal said
    2Bnaked said
    AnOriginal said
    2Bnaked said
    owl_bundy said
    AnOriginal said
    2Bnaked saidwe all have issues growing up
    no need to kill if you don't get
    your way
    GET PROFESSIONAL HELP YA FREAKS


    THE KILLER WAS A SNOT SHIT ASS SPOILED BRAT@@@@@@


    Supposedly he was getting help, maybe he just needed your advice of sunshine and going on naked hikes icon_rolleyes.gif

    His father was an assistant director in the "Hunger Games". Again I question his unrealistic view/expectations as being the cause for his apparent misery. He obviously had rage issues and supposedly belonged to an anti-female group.


    yes, narcissistic rage.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_rage_and_narcissistic_injury




    FOR ALL or anyone who thinks KILLING is the answer......WRONG,,,,,,

    That's whats wrong. Kindness is not a 21 century virtue. Hell, even my own church can't even give a good definition of the meaning of KINDNESS......
    So be kind to others and work on personality skills and just don't panic, because you didn't get a kiss or a girl or A GUY!!!


    Who ever said killing is ever acceptable?!?! Was this your attempt to make yourself seem correct. Yes, we all know murder is wrong, thank you for the lesson.

    I'm just sick of your very generalized "small minded" comments. Stop acting like you have all the answers to an individual's life -- you don't.

    There are plenty of people that can fall under the term mental illness. Whether it's generalized anxiety to OCD -- these people are NOT "freaks". Yes, he was an extreme case and ungrateful.

    There's a major problem in the USA where people aren't getting help that they need most likely due to stigmas and the good old American belief of "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps". US Military suicides have increased dramatically and the people of the USA shouldn't have to worry about stigmas being attached to them for seeking help, as you would if you had high cholesterol, an inability to produce insulin, or seizures.

    You've made it clear in previous posts where you stand on neuroscience and psychiatry. I just find your one-size-fits-all approach naive and irritable.

    Yes, this guy was extremely messed up. He took 6 human beings away from their families right before memorial weekend.



    HE IS LAME LIKE THIS VIDEO REMINDS ME......


    Guns are at everyone's door step. I think this gives someone a chance to KILL for whatever reason. I do not think he was INSANE!!
    BINGO


    There are plenty of lame people in this world. I'd consider yourself one of them for even posting that video. Lame DOES NOT equate to a murderer -- are you a murderer?

    I don't have sympathy for a murder or killer of innocent people. So I am sorry you do.
    HE'S A COWARD for taking his own life because he didn't get his way. No...I am not a MURDER so....
    Keep to the facts. Maybe you should spend a day with a bunch of killers in JAIL and see what you
    think of a real MURDER THEN!! So don't get bitchy please! HE'S A FREAKY spoiled brat!

    No one is trying to make an excuse for what he did. We are just commenting on what we think of him or what we think led to this.

    Seriously, go join Scientology you'd love it icon_wink.gif