Why would a Canadian say this???

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    Jan 05, 2009 1:29 PM GMT
    I am just watching the last season of Robson Arms.....it takes a while for it to get down to Virginia....and there is the gay couple, one older than the other. The older one, it was just revealed, had been married to a woman. She shows up at their flat. The older partner cancels a planned event with the younger one and some of their friends to spend time with this woman.

    Now here is what struck me as odd. As the younger one was driving away, he was reassuring the older one that it was ok for him cancel. And he said to the older one something like "you two can reminisce about Lincoln's assassination."

    Why would he reference an american historical event to joke about their "age" and long time association? Is there no iconic canadian historical event that could have served and conveyed the same sort of sarcasm?
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    Jan 05, 2009 2:15 PM GMT



    Probably, but the show has a huge American audience which might think Louis Riel is a beer.

    Lincoln is famous both sides of the border, in fact world wide.
  • jeffper1

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    Jan 05, 2009 2:23 PM GMT
    don't know this show...but i agree....is lincoln only an american event...or world-wide? He's known for reason outside of borders that just we know.
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    Jan 05, 2009 2:23 PM GMT
    btw...happy new year guys...
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    Jan 05, 2009 2:29 PM GMT
    Napoleon is a world-wide known figure, too. But I wouldnt tell two americans that they could reminisce about their past by talking about Napoleon. Why not reference reminiscing over Macdonald's election?

    Just seemed odd to pick an american event. Dont you have any of your own?
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    Jan 05, 2009 2:30 PM GMT
    meninlove said


    Probably, but the show has a huge American audience ...

    Maybe in the northern states it is seen and then that would make sense.
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    Jan 05, 2009 2:45 PM GMT

    Being the Canadian buff you are, you know Canada has lots of famous people - to Canadians. The show is popular and the US audience huge by comparison to Canadian viewers.

    US history is taught pretty thoroughly in Canadian schools for a lot of reasons- we share a huge border with you, for example. I guess Canadian history is not taught in US schools.
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    Jan 05, 2009 4:10 PM GMT
    Caslon8000 said

    Just seemed odd to pick an american event. Dont you have any of your own?


    "you two can reminisce about when the french canadians and the british canadians were still fighting... or are they still?"
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    Jan 05, 2009 4:45 PM GMT
    Caslon8000 saidWhy not reference reminiscing over Macdonald's election?

    Just seemed odd to pick an american event. Dont you have any of your own?

    You'd be surprised how many Canadians don't know who John A Macdonald is. But yes, I agree that it may also be due to the fact that we want to shop our homegrown series elsewhere and where Macdonald would have many scratching their heads, everyone knows Lincoln.
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    Jan 05, 2009 4:55 PM GMT
    I think it was more for the comedic effect.. Even in Canada it would be more funny to hear Lincoln over John A. Macdonald..

    Canadian history is a little dry, thats most likely why. Grade 10 period 2 was like the biggest sleeping pill of life. And a lot of Canadians take American History.. I just opted not to at the time because I didn't want to have to remember all 50 states and there capitals.
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    Jan 05, 2009 5:00 PM GMT
    Since many Canadian shows make money by being exported, they tend to use well-known references that appeal to a broader market (ie. the US). If the show is dubbed in another language, presumably the references get adjusted accordingly. This is why many Canadian shows are "generic" -- meaning they are devoid of anything distinctly Canadian, and often seem like American shows.
  • Musclebucket

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    Jan 05, 2009 5:07 PM GMT
    Maybe they just got tired of singing Anne Murray songs
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    Jan 05, 2009 5:13 PM GMT
    Sean_85 saidICanadian history is a little dry, ....


    A little dry!?!?! .....If it werent for the "drama" of trying to build your damn railroads, there wouldnt be any history to talk about.

    That's my basic impression of Canadian history....the fuckers took forever trying to build a railroad to settle the damn country!

    That ...and when the British sent troops for possible defense of Canada during the American Civil War, they had to transport the troops BY SLEIGH thru New Brunswick because the only railroad link went thru the US state of Maine!. tee hee hee
  • Musclebucket

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    Jan 05, 2009 5:26 PM GMT
    The Canadians played a vital role in the underground Railroad and in treating black people as human beings not mere chattel as the Americans did.

    Plus they gave us Lorne Greene, aka Pa Cartright whom I'm sure Caslon has slept with.
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    Jan 05, 2009 5:55 PM GMT
    Musclebucket saidPlus they gave us Lorne Greene, aka Pa Cartright whom I'm sure Caslon has slept with.

    funny pictures of cats with captions

    ..besides you slept with Hos....or was it the horse
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    Jan 05, 2009 6:36 PM GMT
    The reason why Canada is such a great place to live is that it does not have a very interesting history. Germany and Russia have interesting histories, Great Britain has a very interesting history. But Canada not so much.

    With the exception of the two World Wars not much else of earth-shattering importance has happened (and this is coming from a guy that loves History and excelled at it in HS).

    I guess they could have said "you could discuss the attack on Vimy Ridge" or "you could discuss the Normandy invasion".
  • novajava

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    Jan 05, 2009 8:10 PM GMT
    All things aside Mrs. Lincon......what did u think of the show? hehehe ...ok i know baaaaaaaaaaaaaad joke...couldn't resist...............Hey wadda u mean canadians have no history.... capital city of my province is the oldest city in north america!... it had paved roads and horse drawn trolley cars when there was nothing but bushes n wild country in most of the states... when the pilgrims landed at Plymouth rock they were met by natives who spoke English. which they learned to speak in schools and trading with merchants here in NL
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    Jan 05, 2009 8:13 PM GMT
    Eh?
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    Jan 05, 2009 9:15 PM GMT
    Caslon8000 said[...]
    Now here is what struck me as odd. As the younger one was driving away, he was reassuring the older one that it was ok for him cancel. And he said to the older one something like "you two can reminisce about Lincoln's assassination."

    Why would he reference an american historical event to joke about their "age" and long time association? Is there no iconic canadian historical event that could have served and conveyed the same sort of sarcasm?



    It's because he was "the younger one." Young people nowadays are totally out of touch with history and many only remember the big historical 'pop-star' names from the (deservedly or otherwise) dominant cultural power (Lincoln, Washington, etc). Other than my poli sci major friends, most people my age that I know can't remember the last 5 Prime Ministers in order, nevermind any important names from a hundred or two hundred years ago, at least not names from our own side of the border. I hate how ignorant I remain about history because of how much doesn't stick in my memory. I've read plenty but a lot of it gets lost icon_confused.gif
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    Jan 05, 2009 9:45 PM GMT
    novajava saidAll things aside Mrs. Lincon......what did u think of the show?
    Always a classic.icon_wink.gif
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    Jan 05, 2009 10:13 PM GMT
    Ok, so it wasnt so odd per the canadian culture. As you can tell, it really surprised me. But then being inside America, I am always surprised at how much the rest of the world knows about us.
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    Jan 05, 2009 11:42 PM GMT
    Musical Bouquet said: Maybe they just got tired of singing Anne Murray songs

    Yeah, I was thinking, "You two can reminisce about Gordon Lightfoot." or, "You two can tell Margaret Trudeau jokes."

    I always find it strange when the most amusing point of reference a writer can come up with about the past involves a tragedy, murder, etc. As Abe might have texted to to Seward as he took his last breath, had there been a 2008 cell-phone handy, "WTF?"

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    Jan 06, 2009 2:49 AM GMT
    Caslon8000 saidOk, so it wasnt so odd per the canadian culture. As you can tell, it really surprised me. But then being inside America, I am always surprised at how much the rest of the world knows about us.


    Thats because we are forced to learn about US history as well as other major countries histories throughout junior high and in high school. We don't only focus on Canadian history. [I think because it's so boringicon_rolleyes.gif]
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    Jan 06, 2009 3:08 AM GMT
    Brett_T said
    We don't only focus on Canadian history. I think because it's so boringicon_rolleyes.gif]


    Agreed. As much as I love living in Canada, learning about how it came to be is the fastest acting sleep-aid known to manicon_cool.gif
  • Thirdbeach

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    Jan 06, 2009 3:27 AM GMT
    Okay, I spoke to one of the creative types on the show. Louise remembered the scene, but had no idea why that event was referenced.

    She is having lunch with the head writer later this week, and will get back to me.