Eliot Rodger was secretly gay and jealous of all the hot blondes for taking the dudes he's after!

  • theob

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    May 26, 2014 2:58 AM GMT
    Wow Fox News. Just... wow.

    http://gawker.com/fox-news-wonders-about-ucsb-shooter-s-homosexual-impul-1581412307

    I love the part where they suggest that he's mad at women for taking all the hot dudes. As if this is anything we real gays ever actually consider in real life.

    If a girl has a boyfriend, that probably means he's not gay. This also incidentally means that he's not available within the gay dating pool. So, by normal logic, it wouldn't matter if a girl was there to take him or not. He's not gay! He's not available anyway.

    Jesus.

    Because this is what we do. We are so lacking in social awareness that we go after anything with a dick, regardless of that person's clearly stated sexual preference. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    May 26, 2014 3:19 AM GMT
    We were flipping through the channels earlier today when this interview came on... and all I could think at the time was what a QUACK this Dr. Robi Ludwig was.
    She so has her head up her A*&... and has no clue what she's talking about.
    (here OP, let me help you with that link!)

    http://gawker.com/fox-news-wonders-about-ucsb-shooter-s-homosexual-impul-1581412307
  • onefortified

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    May 26, 2014 3:24 AM GMT
    They're just trying to spin the story to make gay people look bad. Why is Faux news still allowed on TV. So much bullshit not even an enema could save them.
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    May 26, 2014 3:25 AM GMT
    onefortified saidThey're just trying to spin the story to make gay people look bad. Why is Faux news still allowed on TV. So much bullshit not even an enema could save them.

    LOL.... I hit the LIKE button about 100 times over that quote!
  • MikeW

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    May 26, 2014 4:02 AM GMT
    Fox news isn't even worthy of a comment. I'm in the middle of reading the killer's "manifesto" which is actually his autobiography from day 1. I'm finding it straggly fascinating. I'm now up to his 18th year and its quite interesting to see how rather ordinary he was. He just didn't *know* it.

    What I'm really replying to is the gay thing. If he had any homo tendencies, they were *very* suppressed. He talks about his becoming aware of sex, how that happened, what it did to him and so on. But there's no indication of any boy on boy interest or experimentation. By age 14 he was developing a very strong hatred of sex (because he believed he would never have sex because girls hated him and therefore made his life miserable) but so far as he writes, all his sexual fantasies were hetero.

    Just for the record.
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    May 26, 2014 4:04 AM GMT
    "what else is Fox going to talk about? Gun control? More money for mental health facilities?"

    I loved this one in the Gawker comments.
    Fox outdoes itself time after time.
    Have they brought up the BENGHAZI connection yet?
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    May 26, 2014 4:27 AM GMT
    Fox News is trash, always has been, always will be.
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    May 26, 2014 4:47 AM GMT
    James_Thunder_Early saidFox News is trash, always has been, always will be.



    onefortified saidThey're just trying to spin the story to make gay people look bad. Why is Faux news still allowed on TV. So much bullshit not even an enema could save them.


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    May 26, 2014 5:49 AM GMT
    I think I have this correct, that Faux News applied to broadcast in Canada, but they were refused because, in Canada, news programs have to tell the truth.
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    May 26, 2014 11:50 AM GMT
    From LGBTQ Nation (in grey):

    "...But in an appearance on “Justice with Judge Jeanine,” Fox News “expert” and reality TV psychotherapist Dr. Robi Ludwig suggested a different motive for the shootings.

    “When I was first listening to him, I was like, ‘Oh, he’s angry with women for rejecting him,’” Ludwig said. “And then I started to have a different idea: Is this somebody who is trying to fight against his homosexual impulses?’”

    “Was he angry with women because they were taking away men from him?” she speculated. “But this is a kid who couldn’t connect, and felt enraged, and wanted to obliterate anyone that made him feel like a nothing.”

    When host Jeanine Pirro remarked that Rodger killed both men and women, Ludwig surmised that he could have been “angry at the men for not choosing him.'”


    My own bias:

    This is why exact and true sciences need to evolve in understanding the brain. There are tons of great psychologists out there. Yet, I'd say the best therapists some of us have are our parents, philosophy professors, or religion.

    To make assumptions or experiment with someone's wellbeing is quite frankly dangerous -- which is basically what we're doing when it comes to mental health.

    Even members on ChristianFourms don't think he's gay or that it should matter.

    "I don't know why some people are trying to gain attention for themselves by trying to make Rodgers into a homosexual. He was very straightforward regarding his views and motivations. There is over 140 some odd pages of crazy attesting to this. There is no need to read something into what isn't actually there. He was angry at women for not having sex with him. He was angry at men who he perceived to have women and things he did not."
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    May 26, 2014 12:16 PM GMT
    Hate women?

    How is it that a supposed-psychologist doesn't know that we don't even notice her. Seems more like a personal issue. Look, sorry, but your face doesn't get us hard and your pussy makes us vomit. Get over it.

    The only women we even acknowledge are our mothers who we loves as the momma's boys we be, the lesbian neighbor who gets our thanx for coming over to fix the sink and for keeping the neighborhood safe and the occasional diva who gets our admiration for singing songs of love.

    So hateful, no wonder we are all out shooting people.

    Psychologist must be how Fox spells dipshit.
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    May 26, 2014 12:27 PM GMT
    Quack psychologists be cray. Even if Eliot Rodgers was gay, at least go with the more plausible hypothesis that he was repressing his homo desires and desperately trying to convince those around him that he was straight. Maybe women could pick up on him trying to hide his sexuality and that is why they weren't attracted to him.

    Fox News, are you reading this? Go ahead. Take that one. Give it to your next bullshit guest. At least it doesn't presuppose that all gays wanna kill women so their boyfriends will have no other choice but to be gay.
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    May 26, 2014 1:51 PM GMT
    theantijock saidHate women?

    How is it that a supposed-psychologist doesn't know that we don't even notice her. Seems more like a personal issue. Look, sorry, but your face doesn't get us hard and your pussy makes us vomit. Get over it.

    The only women we even acknowledge are our mothers who we loves as the momma's boys we be, the lesbian neighbor who gets our thanx for coming over to fix the sink and for keeping the neighborhood safe and the occasional diva who gets our admiration for singing songs of love.

    So hateful, no wonder we are all out shooting people.

    Psychologist must be how Fox spells dipshit.


    This isn't just a case of one psychologist making whatever claims that they feel are justified. There are many quacks out there AND plenty of great psychologists as well.

    Frances Farmer is a fairly well known case. Also a 12 year old boy named Howard Dully was diagnosed with schizophrenia, the unwarranted diagnosis was to give him a lobotomy -- Walter Freeman was a piece of work. Freeman and James Watt's also gave JFK's sister a lobotomy. He hid the fact his colleagues thought his psychosurgery/lobotomies/icepick surgeries were dangerous and lacked evidence.

    When I was having trouble coming out/coming to terms with my sexuality I went to a therapist I found in a local gay magazine. He made me feel very uncomfortable. He asked me what brand of underwear I had on and asked if he hypothetically offered to sleep with me what would I do. I am 99% sure I saw him driving his car on my block while walking my dog (I live on a dead-end). The creepy part is he had an Asian partner that he let slip in a session that he didn't feel was worthy of him. He was also a pastor at a gay church, and a couple of years later I found out he passed on (I stopped going to him after a few sessions and I only told a few friends what he said to me during that time). Usually I'm very open with my mother, but I felt embarrassed and ashamed even though I didn't do anything with him.

    My point is, "absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely". It just makes my stomach turn to know worst things could've happened and do happen to other people! There needs to be clearer diagnosis methods that rely on science NOT people. I fear pharmaceutical companies wouldn't embrace that idea though.
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    May 26, 2014 1:52 PM GMT
    Here's a review from Amazon about Frances:

    Frances
    On my Top Ten List
    By Marc Cabir Davis - February 11, 2001
    'Frances' is, quite frankly, one of the most powerful films I have ever seen, and definitely one of the most compelling tales I have seen on film. I saw this movie 17 years after it was first released, but a story such as this loses none of its' power with time, and I was moved, touched and amazed at the life of Frances Farmer, upon whose life this film is based.

    First of all, let me say that I saw this on DVD. The DVD version of the movie is crystal clear, though the sound could have been sharper. Colors are crisp and vibrant, and the director's use of film in certain places to create a '30s effect is well-transferred. The only sore point is that there are no extra features on the DVD other than the scene selection. Perhaps a documentary on the star's life would have complimented the movie, but I'm not really complaining. That such an excellent film is available on DVD is gift enough.

    The life of Frances Farmer remains one of the most shrouded-in-secrecy tales to come out of Hollywood. Even her autobiography, it is said, was actually written by her 'best friend' Jean Ratcliffe, who doesn't even feature in the movie. I knew none of this when I first stumbled upon this film, which made the horror of the events it contained that much more gruesome and intolerable. For audiences who couldn't stomach 'Hannibal', I have news for you. 'Frances' is a film that deals with true horror, and for that reason this is a film that I will not see again. It affected me too much.

    The film starts with Frances' Seattle days, when she was a schoolgirl who won the essay contest with her stunning view of religion and life called 'God Dies'. Jessica Lange's spoken version of the poem is gripping and sets the tone for the rest of the film. To be honest, Jessica Lange playing a 16 year old sounds unbelievable, but she pulls it off. Her transformation from schoolgirl to budding actress to tantrum-throwing firebrand is utterly compelling, and confirmed to me that she is indeed one of the best actresses we have in our company today.

    Frances Farmer, according to the movie, was hopelessly controlled by her mother, and to some extent, her soft-spoken father. The unspeakable horrors in this film include the selling of Frances to the mental institution by her mother, something that I could not quite get over. And yet, through it all, the film suggests that Frances is sane, and it is the rest of the world that views an uneven temperament as something that one should be punished for, or even worse, lobotomized. Much has been written of Farmer's supposed lobotomy, and the film insists that it did indeed happen. Farmer herself, in her later years, was known to have told her friends that it did not. Whatever the true story, it cannot be denied that the inhuman treatment that met this girl was shocking and condemnable.

    Jessica Lange is perhaps the only actress I have seen on film who has managed to tow the line between restrain and over-the-top so well, as she does here. Her scenes in the mental institution are breathtaking, because it reveals to us what true acting really consists of. Yet, at the same time, it seems as if Lange doesn't really act the part of Farmer. She IS Farmer, for all of the movie. This is at once both curious and remarkable, because no matter how hard I think, I cannot recall a single actress in a true-story adaptation who has managed to convince the audience that they ARE the person they are playing. Alas, Farmer's relationship with her mother, whom she keeps strangely going back to (proving that familial ties can sometimes be the noose around ones' neck) is where Lange hopelessly excels. These scenes are traumatic to sit through, and I must admit I had a tougher time sitting through this than I did during "Dancer in the Dark".

    The fascinating thing about this movie is that it reminds us that there was nothing really wrong with Frances Farmer, other than her being an opinionated and strong-willed young woman, who wanted to take control of her own life. But in the '30s, this was blasphemy, at least to the circles that Farmer stemmed from. Jessica Lange's masterful potrayal of a woman torn between love for family, and love for ones' own sense of Self is something that I will not easily forget.

    The scenes in the mental asylum are the ones that are hardest to swallow. And to think that these events actually occured! Frances was repeatedly tortured, raped by orderlies and soldiers who were snuck in, and subject to eight hour stretches of hyrdrotherapy every day (something the film does not show, as it would have been way too graphic to handle). At the end of it, Frances Farmer spent seven years in the mental asylum for no apparent sin. The film does not portray her as a martyr or glorify her, which made me respect it as a body of work even more. It also hints that the lobotomy made Frances 'emotionally calmer', but Lange's subtle performance post-operation hints to us that there was serious emotional and physical damage done. The tilt of her head, the way her face shifts lower toward her neck and thrusts up in spasms every time she tries to talk - these are all signs that Frances Farmer was raped and mutilated and lobotomized from within, and would never again be the same person.

    Curiously, the movie does not deal with the years after Farmer's release from the hospital. Incredibly, she was supposed to have returned one last time to Hollywood and hosted her own TV show. Even her death was a mystery. Cancer of the oesophagus, it was said. Whatever the truth, we can safely say that Frances Farmer was one of Hollywoods' greatest victims, and a fine example that sometimes family can be the worst thing that happens to us.

    I strongly recommend this film to all lovers of drama and serious film-making. This deserved more recognition when it came out, and needs to be made more easily available. The DVD edition is in widescreen, with stereo sound. Easy scene access is the only additional feature.
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    AnOriginal saidThis isn't just a case of one psychologist making whatever claims that they feel are justified. There are many quacks out there AND plenty of great psychologists as well.

    Frances Farmer is a fairly well known case. Also a 12 year old boy named Howard Dully was diagnosed with schizophrenia, the unwarranted diagnosis was to give him a lobotomy -- Walter Freeman was a piece of work. Freeman and James Watt's also gave JFK's sister a lobotomy. He hid the fact his colleagues thought his psychosurgery/lobotomies/icepick surgeries were dangerous and lacked evidence.

    When I was having trouble coming out/coming to terms with my sexuality I went to a therapist I found in a local gay magazine. He made me feel very uncomfortable. He asked me what brand of underwear I had on and asked if he hypothetically offered to sleep with me what would I do. I am 99% sure I saw him driving his car on my block while walking my dog (I live on a dead-end). The creepy part is he had an Asian partner that he let slip in a session that he didn't feel was worthy of him. He was also a pastor at a gay church, and a couple of years later I found out he passed on (I stopped going to him after a few sessions and I only told a few friends what he said to me during that time). Usually I'm very open with my mother, but I felt embarrassed and ashamed even though I didn't do anything with him.

    My point is, "absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely". It just makes my stomach turn to know worst things could've happened and do happen to other people! There needs to be clearer diagnosis methods that rely on science NOT people. I fear pharmaceutical companies wouldn't embrace that idea though.


    Well, yes, likely there are many quacks that you might want to discuss and nothing wrong with that but this kind of is the case of one wacko presented as expertise by a scummy "news" organization. I've no problems with thinking tangentially off that but I've no need to dilute the issue to justify anything. This offense by that bitch and Fox is clear as day.

    It's no accident that they brought her in to state on their news program: "...and then I started to have a different idea. Is this someone trying to fight against his homosexual impulses?" Was he angry with women because they were taking away men from him."

    A different idea? If she ever had more than one idea it would, as is said, die of loneliness. She's not only diagnosing a guy she never met, never heard of until this moment, but she's theorizing that being gay caused the murders? Really. That wasn't a random interview. That was staged. They knew before hand that she would say that. That's why she was there. This is bullshit.

    As to bad shrinks, that's bound to be. There's bullshit everywhere and all you can do is try not to add to it and avoid it from others as best you can.

    That's a horrible experience you had with yours, sorry for you about that. Shouldn't have happened but it does. Certainly there are also very good guys out there who by far outnumber the bad ones. The problem there being when someone goes to a counselor, they're often in crisis so that makes them highly vulnerable so a predator would have great advantage there. Very important to report any suspicions because of that.

    My experience has been with really good guys. I had a very good therapist in my late teens/early 20s when I was heavily involved in my earlier dream practices at the same time that I was grappling with my sexuality, so that was rough on me. He was never inappropriate. Later in life I wound up friends with an absolutely brilliant psychiatrist who I've since sadly buried and he always had the very best interests of his patients and friends and family foremost in mind. I admired him so much.

    But I also recall in my earlier years in seeking counsel I wound up with one or two guys who were not predators by any means but maybe not as talented as others and so I didn't continue with them or quickly outgrew them. So even if you find yourself in crisis, as you come back to yourself, then you take control of that. Asking about underwear? That should have clued you in right then and there.

    The soft sciences rely on at least evidence-based practice so there is quite a bit of credibility there. Here's a thing on that...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence-based_practice#Research-based_evidence

    I get your concern of having hard evidence in diagnosing but the mind is really complex so I don't know that you'll ever have that completely. But there are efforts in that direction, such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurofeedback

    But until they get some diagnostics with the sophistication of Data's positronic brain we can probably expect more intuition by random Fox expertise.
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    May 26, 2014 8:27 PM GMT
    Thank you for thoughtful response, theantijock. It was truly a pleasure to read :-)

    The therapist said the kind of underwear we wear says how we view ourselves. He also wrote a book, I never read it but he had me read a passage from it during a session. I don't think he would've necessarily hurt me, but he made it a point to find out how I was raised and what I was accustomed to -- he lived in a mini-mansion (which served as his office, house, and church). I trusted him with my inner thoughts and I felt a little violated looking back -- it was a long time ago. My point is when you're the person seeking help you put yourself in an extremely vulnerable position.

    As far as understanding the mechanisms behind mental disorders. I believe that evidence based practice is the best we have, but extremely flawed. It would be like trying to diagnose a diabetic without an A1C test. There will eventually be more accurate diagnosis tests, but it will most likely come from serendipity and the neuroscience field, although serendipity doesn't care what field you're in icon_wink.gif

    As far as psychologists and psychiatrists go. They're needed for situational traumas that cause symptoms of mental illness, such as post traumatic stress disorder. My point is if humans are given the opportunity to screw something up, some of them will, and a diagnosis test would effectively end ill-practices in this field. Could you imagine the "snake oil" we'd have if diabetic treatments didn't advance.

    From the Truman library:

    "With no effective treatment aside from a semi-starvation diet, a diabetic's outlook appeared grim. Before 1922, diabetic children rarely lived a year after diagnosis, five percent of adults died within two years, and less than 20 percent lived more than ten (Berger 57). Untreated diabetics faced blindness, loss of limbs, kidney failure, stroke, heart attack and death (Yuwiler 12)."

    Yes, if we want to say call cognitive therapy, exercise -- we all need it. BUT diet and exercise alone would never help a type-1 diabetic.

    P.S. It was Fox so I took it with a grain of salt. What I will state is their expert Dr. Robi Ludwig holds all the academic credentials to practice as a clinical psychologist. Do we really believe other humans (who happen to hold doctorates) in a private setting wouldn't ever base their patients health concerns on their own life biases or to advance their own motives? It is with faith, I believe science will make this fragile system something patients no longer have to accept as the totality for their answers and wellbeing. To see this happen in my lifetime would be like watching Neil Armstrong walk on the moon :-)

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    May 27, 2014 12:40 AM GMT
    AnOriginal said...The therapist said the kind of underwear we wear says how we view ourselves. ... their expert Dr. Robi Ludwig holds all the academic credentials to practice as a clinical psychologist...


    A priest's collar or shrink's shingle doesn't determine good or bad. That bitch on Fox is someone who would sell her soul if she had one, regardless of degrees "earned". She's there for the money.

    I'm somewhat familiar by some studies and a lot of experience but not all that well-read I'm sure on the latest in diagnosis, so I'm not certain just what you're hoping for. I'd imagine medicine will for the foreseeable future be medical arts, as applicable as the latest advances of science allow. Even with many pharmaceuticals used there, they don't even necessarily know precisely how some of that works, just that it does. And that's not just psychotropics, but other non-psychiatric drugs too used in other areas of medicine.

    So they don't even know yet all the science of the cures, even ones that seem to work, never mind of the diagnosis. If your looking for a machine that might diagnose psych issues with complete accuracy, I doubt you'll see that soon if ever.

    Even with all the testing available, a good shrink might hesitate on absolutely defining every client according to stringently defined standards of how we think people should think and behave because we are that complex. While some are more clear cut than others, they might think, well, he has a touch of this and a leaning towards that and some indications of the other, for the mind doesn't classify as clear cut as taking a temperature or reading very specific symptoms of something strictly physical and not simply physical at the level of neurons but of organs.

    Because though our thoughts in a sense are physical neurons connecting to neurons, but maybe not physical in the sense of purely predictable because even someone with, say, a personality disorder is either more limited or better functional not just by whatever measurable defect (too much or too little white or grey matter or whatever is the case) of the brain which could be diagnosed but by their personality, other attributes etc., factors which might not lend towards accurate diagnosis and certainly not in the sense of predicting behavior. A narcissist can be destructive but also could be creative. Where's the diagnosis in that? So two people can have the same disease, like Alzheimer's, and we have a general sense of how that might progress, but no two experiences are identical, instead they need to be treated individually as the disease progresses individually unlike a cold or mumps or measles which can be better predicted. One person with Alzheimer's might lose their personality more so than another patient so their experience, how loved ones handle the disease, what treatment is required might be very different though the diagnosis of both said basically the same thing: dementia. So then is the diagnosis only as good as it's ability to predict? What machine does that?

    And it's not as if we might become more predictable even as psychology advances in its understandings because as consciousness expands with those understandings we might become that much more complex, ever more riding the wave that never overtakes.
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    May 27, 2014 1:32 AM GMT
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    James_Thunder_Early saidFox News is trash, always has been, always will be.



    onefortified saidThey're just trying to spin the story to make gay people look bad. Why is Faux news still allowed on TV. So much bullshit not even an enema could save them.


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    # Preach girls, Preach. Fox News,,, urg. Some gay guys just need to Bitch-Slap their producers before putting shit like this on the air. icon_eek.gificon_redface.gif
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    May 27, 2014 6:26 AM GMT
    She sorta Apologized for it.

    Read it Here.

    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/fox-new-shrink-i-was-misunderstood-when-i-suggested-shooter-fighting-homosexual-impulses/discrimination/2014/05/26/88047
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    LAXWill10 saidShe sorta Apologized for it.

    Read it Here.

    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/fox-new-shrink-i-was-misunderstood-when-i-suggested-shooter-fighting-homosexual-impulses/discrimination/2014/05/26/88047


    So not only is she a douchebag but she's also a backpedaling, manipulative, lying piece of shit? How surprising! Seems her creds just keep improving. Soon she'll be good enough for Fox news.

    Ya gotta love her tweet “I in NO way meant to indicate being a homosexual or having homosexual impulses is a cause for spree killing. My job on @judgejeanine was to asses several possible triggers for #ElliotRoger and his behavior ‪#‎peace‬ ‪#‎forequalrights‬ However, I apologize to all those who felt offended. That was never my intention.”

    Huh, seems the shrink Freudian slipped.

    She can take her apology and shove it up her asses.
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    May 28, 2014 5:49 AM GMT
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    I don't think there will be a "magic machine" to diagnose brains that aren't functioning "rationally" and "correctly" -- which I'd like to note many individuals with brain abnormalities are geniuses in other areas i.e. Vaslav Nijinsky (ballet dancer), Ludwig von Beethoven (composer), Winston Churchill (leader), Isac Newton (scientist), Charles Dickens (author), Abraham Lincoln (president) etc.

    I believe many artists and poets are able to describe or portray the depths of emotions due to their "malfunctioning" minds.

    They know some of the mechanisms of drugs and are able to tell what neurotransmitters they work on (~1960's) i.e. agonists, releasers, precursors, reuptake inhibitors, dopamine, norepinephrine, and serotonin.

    I know you stated you don't think a diagnosis test will "ever" be available. Now, I am sure people didn't think electricity or flying was possible either, but I believe science will prevail. My main concern is once what I envision does come into existence, it could cause morality issues -- similar to how genetic sequencing and mapping raised ethical questions. Being able to diagnose a patient should ONLY be used for treatment purposes and to further help a patient. It should not be used to try and classify/label, discriminate, or irrationally "try" to protect others.

    Medical breakthroughs may take time and serendipity, but they will occur. Researchers need to be given freedom (within ethics), access to the right tools, and an educational environment that allows innovations to occur.

    I know you mentioned neurofeedback; I'll assume you were referring to QEEGs (brain mapping). I also believe micro-dialysis is helping scientists and researchers to better understand the brain.

    I know Wikipedia isn't the best source, but here's a brief overview of microdialysis::

    "Microdialysis is a minimally-invasive sampling technique that is used for continuous measurement of free, bound analyte concentrations in the extracellular fluid of virtually any tissue. For the procedure to be carried out, small amounts of brains chemical solutions are collected. Analytes may include endogenous molecules (e.g. neurotransmitter, hormones, glucose, etc.) to assess their biochemical functions in the body, or exogenous compounds (e.g. pharmaceuticals) to determine their distribution within the body."

    Personalities encompasses plenty of variables, but the primary focus for developing a diagnosis tool should be the genetic, biological, or neurological reason certain people suffer from mental disorders ex. major depression -- regardless of positive or negative environmental factors. I am not talking about individuals who have dire circumstances or extreme environmental factors, that would cause most people to suffer mentally. The focus should be based on the "type-1 diabetics of mental health".

    I'd like to note it was in 1977 the A1C test became the gold standard for diagnosing diabetes. Yet, in the 1920's Eli Lily & Company developed insulin commercially, allowing diabetics live's to be transformed.

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    LAXWill10 saidShe sorta Apologized for it.

    Read it Here.

    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/fox-new-shrink-i-was-misunderstood-when-i-suggested-shooter-fighting-homosexual-impulses/discrimination/2014/05/26/88047


    So not only is she a douchebag but she's also a backpedaling, manipulative, lying piece of shit? How surprising! Seems her creds just keep improving. Soon she'll be good enough for Fox news.

    Ya gotta love her tweet “I in NO way meant to indicate being a homosexual or having homosexual impulses is a cause for spree killing. My job on @judgejeanine was to asses several possible triggers for #ElliotRoger and his behavior ‪#‎peace‬ ‪#‎forequalrights‬ However, I apologize to all those who felt offended. That was never my intention.”

    Huh, seems the shrink Freudian slipped.

    She can take her apology and shove it up her asses.



    LOL, Yeah she's just back-pedaling and being all wishy-washy. We know exactly what you meant, you homophobic B****.
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    May 28, 2014 2:14 PM GMT
    AnOriginal saidI know you stated you don't think a diagnosis test will "ever" be available. Now, I am sure people didn't think electricity or flying was possible either,...Personalities encompasses plenty of variables, but the primary focus for developing a diagnosis tool should be the genetic, biological, or neurological reason certain people suffer from mental disorders ex. major depression -- regardless of positive or negative environmental factors....


    I'm not afraid personally of having ever more information especially about the mind which I purposely explore, so of course I enjoy our ever increasing understanding of it, including the potential of improved diagnosis that you're concentrating on but that aspect about which even though I hadn't given much thought to, I think that I did qualify all I said in its predictability and practicality.

    Sometimes even the best information doesn't give a way out but offers merely a deeper understanding of the inevitable (ie. learning the genetics of Alzheimer's but not yet having a cure, so the application of that knowledge might be very limited and maybe even detrimental on various fronts) at the same time that alternatives and life paths might be independent of diagnosis.

    Regardless, my point being that even though you might have been victimized by bad diagnosis or the abuse of the authority we endow a profession, even though a quack like this realtor/psychologist (no offense intended individually towards either vocation) would diagnose not only so ineptly, but publicly and in rather bad taste, that even given more wonderful diagnostic tools than we already employ there will still be not just the complexities of the human mind but differing interpretations of the data. So I'm not really warning about a magic machine but about a magic pill.
  • HottJoe

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    May 28, 2014 4:23 PM GMT
    Even some RJers are saying he's gay. Faux News can backpedal, but the seed was planted, and now, despite the overwhelming evidence that Rodgers was fixated on having sex with women, the homophobes will latch onto the false story, and the truth will obfuscated.
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    May 28, 2014 4:28 PM GMT
    To be honest I was getting a sort of repressed homosexual vibe from him just by watching his videos.

    Mostly down to the way he spoke and his facial features (he was v pretty looking).

    Of course this is as conclusive as fucking fortune telling icon_lol.gif