The Normal Heart [HBO film]

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    May 26, 2014 8:36 PM GMT
    What did you think? I'd particularly like to hear from those who saw the Tony Award winning play.

    One heart-wrenching moment after another. Superb performances throughout from Ruffalo, Bomer, Parsons, Roberts, et al.
  • flyn243

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    May 26, 2014 10:06 PM GMT
    Just watched it. Diffidently a must see.
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    May 26, 2014 10:08 PM GMT
    Outstanding. Highly recommended
  • RSportsguy

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    May 26, 2014 10:10 PM GMT
    I really liked it. It did get preachy, but it had to. The powers to be at the time were truly negligent! icon_mad.gif
  • BillandChuck

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    May 26, 2014 10:22 PM GMT
    We were lucky enough to see the revival three years ago, and it was phenomenal. Bill also saw the original production in London close to 30 years ago, and Martin Sheen was brilliant. As far as performances go, the '11 revival saw GREAT performances, with Ellen Barkin really shining in particular. The overboarding on the politics were predictable; but the message was powerful and correct, too.

    We haven't caught the HBO film adaptation yet, but we're looking forward to it soon.
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    May 26, 2014 11:08 PM GMT
    Good performances.I was not blown away.But it was moving
  • madsexy

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    May 26, 2014 11:46 PM GMT
    I just searched it and it's on HBO tonight at 8 eastern. I'll either be recording or watching.
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    May 26, 2014 11:56 PM GMT
    I am truly amazed at how gay men fucked themselves to death.
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    May 27, 2014 12:16 AM GMT
    Blondizgd saidI am truly amazed at how gay men fucked themselves to death.



    I can't believe that any humanbeing can make such a disgusting and arrogant comment.....Without a doubt you win asshole of the year award! Calling you an ignorant jerk is too kind!
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    May 27, 2014 12:33 AM GMT
    Musclefitness_101 said
    Blondizgd saidI am truly amazed at how gay men fucked themselves to death.



    I can't believe that any humanbeing can make such an disgusting and arrogant comment.....Without a doubt you win asshole of the year award! Calling you an ignorant jerk is too kind!


    exactly.
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    May 27, 2014 12:49 AM GMT
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    May 27, 2014 3:24 AM GMT
    Boy I got to see Matt Bomer and Hugh Jackman's ass this weekend. I call that a success.
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    May 27, 2014 5:51 AM GMT
    It was really difficult to watch, but I sat through and watched the whole thing and I am glad I did. I am glad that people decided to remake the play into a film, though I am sad to see that its availability has been restricted to HBO subscribers.

    I urge everyone, especially people in my generation (i.e. the millennials), to watch this movie. There are few movies that are as important to watch as this one.
  • bronx718

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    May 27, 2014 6:01 AM GMT
    It was okay. "And the Band Played On" was my favorite period piece from that era.
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    May 27, 2014 12:00 PM GMT
    very important film, as we mark the 30th anniversary of the HIV/AIDS crisis. of course, this hit home cuz i'm poz myself (and i love a good cry). but here's my review:

    1 - Writing: this was a play adapted for tv, and this is clear in how the dialogue was written. lots of big powerful loud speeches of outrage, torment, confusion, and anger. it was basically a pornography of rage and despair, meant to scream at an audience at the back of the theatre and in the balcony. the TV version did little to change the pacing, and offered little relief or subtlety in the story telling.

    2 - Production: it definitely felt like New York, but it didn't feel like the 80s. this was a modern interpretation of the 80s. things weren't all scrubbed up in the 80s. it was colourful but gritty and messy. most people did not have gym-ripped bodies, and abs didn't become a thing until the late 90s.

    3 - Message: Kramer comes out loud and clear screaming that we are killing ourselves. he points fingers at the government for its lack of leadership, the medical industry for its inaction, and society for its selfishness - both straight society which ignored the problem, and gay society which was a victim of its own hedonism.

    4. Performances: Amazing. The only person I found hard to believe was Jim Parsons. Maybe because he is burned in my head as Sheldon from Big Bang Theory, but maybe because his performance is more subtle than the others who were screaming at the top of their lungs in every scene.
  • gymguy81

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    May 27, 2014 1:40 PM GMT
    I have to admit its well made but I have issues watching it. never saw the stage play.
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    May 27, 2014 3:22 PM GMT
    Musclefitness_101 said
    Blondizgd saidI am truly amazed at how gay men fucked themselves to death.



    I can't believe that any humanbeing can make such a disgusting and arrogant comment.....Without a doubt you win asshole of the year award! Calling you an ignorant jerk is too kind!


    That's because we do not have parties in our community where the whole idea is to become infected right? That's because in spite of almost a whole generation of men dying because of promiscuity we are still not hell bent on fucking ourselves to death right? The moment AIDS was deemed manageable have not quite a few assholes returned to their irresponsible behavior? Was the doctor not laughed at when she tried cautioning gay men to stop fucking around? Exactly what was she told? The whole idea that we can live however we want to without any consequences is quite laughable. Try to blame the government's inaction as much as you like. Gay men are fully responsible for their irresponsibility.

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3512776
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    May 27, 2014 3:52 PM GMT
    It was very intense at times. However, I think, that was the point.
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    May 27, 2014 5:09 PM GMT
    Musclefitness_101 said
    Blondizgd saidI am truly amazed at how gay men fucked themselves to death.



    I can't believe that any humanbeing can make such a disgusting and arrogant comment.....Without a doubt you win asshole of the year award! Calling you an ignorant jerk is too kind!


    It's true. They infected and killed each other, and they're still doing it today. The breeding and seeding community (if you want to call it that) is bigger now than it was in the 70's and 80's because gay porn promotes it and there are online communities devoted to the practice. Haven't seen the film yet but will soon and never saw the play.
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    May 27, 2014 8:13 PM GMT
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    Musclefitness_101 said
    Blondizgd saidI am truly amazed at how gay men fucked themselves to death.



    I can't believe that any humanbeing can make such a disgusting and arrogant comment.....Without a doubt you win asshole of the year award! Calling you an ignorant jerk is too kind!


    It's true. They infected and killed each other, and they're still doing it today. The breeding and seeding community (if you want to call it that) is bigger now than it was in the 70's and 80's because gay porn promotes it and there are online communities devoted to the practice. Haven't seen the film yet but will soon and never saw the play.


    For some reason I figured you'd be in here up to your elbows.

    Both your wording and Blondie's infers it was deliberate back then. It wasn't.
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    May 27, 2014 10:53 PM GMT
    meninlove said
    AlmondJoy said
    Musclefitness_101 said
    Blondizgd saidI am truly amazed at how gay men fucked themselves to death.



    I can't believe that any humanbeing can make such a disgusting and arrogant comment.....Without a doubt you win asshole of the year award! Calling you an ignorant jerk is too kind!


    It's true. They infected and killed each other, and they're still doing it today. The breeding and seeding community (if you want to call it that) is bigger now than it was in the 70's and 80's because gay porn promotes it and there are online communities devoted to the practice. Haven't seen the film yet but will soon and never saw the play.


    For some reason I figured you'd be in here up to your elbows.

    Both your wording and Blondie's infers it was deliberate back then. It wasn't.


    We have the same biological common sense today that we had back then.

    If you drink or smoke weed and get behind the wheel of your car and crash into a car and kill four people your intention was not to kill, but you still killed them, shortened their lives, and changed the lives of their loved ones forever.
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    May 28, 2014 9:32 AM GMT
    I had always wanted to see the stage production of this back then, but it wasn't on when I visited L.A.; now I saw this as a TV movie on HBO. I find its tone very angry, and frankly not effective as another TV movie "An Early Frost" and the movie "Philadelphia" in driving the message to general TV viewers.
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    May 28, 2014 2:58 PM GMT
    I agree the tone was angry throughout, but recognizing the point-of-view from which Larry Kramer perceived it, I truly appreciated the brash tones, directed to and from the main character. In real life, Kramer was always angry that not enough people in influential positions were similarly angry, at least angry enough to act with some sense of collective urgency. So many movies and plays leave the outrage at a simmering level, while Kramer aims for full-boil.

    Watching the movie again, it felt to me like characters were living and working fully within the eye of a hurricane and trying not to get swept up in the surrounding winds. That's whether the threat was the growing virus/cancer of then-unknown name, or simply the unyielding ire of the central character (Ned Weeks).

    I felt Kramer displays not only criticism of others through his works but self-criticism as well. He directs the reflective element through the reactions from the other characters.

    Frank Bruni did an excellent piece on Kramer last month. The collection of people he's p*ssed off in his quest to remain assertive is wide-ranging.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/27/opinion/sunday/bruni-the-angel-in-larry-kramer.html

    Frank Bruni (NYT)And he once said, in an interview with New York magazine, that he didn’t understand why “every gay person doesn’t agree with everything I say.”

    “I’m serious,”
    he added.


    In being a screaming voice within the wilderness, with every new production Kramer risks making this all about himself. And, of course, he doesn't mind that at all. Next year, Kramer is planning to release through HBO a biopic alongside an epic gay historical documentary.
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    May 28, 2014 3:03 PM GMT
    Every once in awhile, I imagine that Kramer has a hidden/faceless RJ account so he can jump in the forums and vent like the rest of us do. icon_smile.gif
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    May 28, 2014 4:51 PM GMT
    from towleroad; their review if The Normal Heart; on the early stages of AIDS:

    a 1983 Good Morning America video


    http://www.towleroad.com/2014/05/pauleykramer.html