Dan Marino sues NFL over concussions

  • tj85016

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    Jun 03, 2014 1:23 PM GMT
    wtf, I think he's just pissed because he never won a Super Bowl

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/02/us/dan-marino-concussion-lawsuit/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
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    Jun 03, 2014 2:56 PM GMT
    I'm sorry but I totally disagree with this! If these guys didn't have the intelligence to think that pounding your head on the ground or against another player or a dummy in practice all those years was going to be an issue later in life, then shame on them for being so stupid.

    They're after some free money. They got paid big bucks for knocking their gray matter around and they made the choice to do it. Too bad, live with the results.

    If a mailman walks every day to deliver mail and then needs knee replacements, is that the fault of the Postal Service? If a trucker drives his whole life (in football years that about 10 years) and develops blood clots in his legs, is that the fault of the trucking company?

    This is pure BS. These guys are losers in my book!
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    Jun 03, 2014 3:12 PM GMT
    ^
    THIS
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    Jun 03, 2014 3:20 PM GMT
    One guy who agreed with you?

    Dan Marino. Back in 2013, while he still had his TV gig with CBS Sports.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24579491/dan-marino-on-concussions-in-2013-players-know-what-the-risks-are

    CBSSports.com"When I went out there to play I knew there was a chance I could get a concussion or I could break a leg or get a knee injury," Marino told Yahoo.com's Daily Ticker. "I really do believe they're protecting the players as much as they can right now."


    To be fair to Dan, though, as this article from his former employer notes, the issue he's suing about isn't the risk of getting seriously injured. The legal issue involves the possibility that players like him were allowed to continue playing while NFL team staff concealed actual, specific brain-related injuries like concussions from them. Marino and the other 14 players argue that the league knew about the extent of such injuries since the 1970s, but deliberately and systematically kept individual players in the dark, telling them they were simply "dinged up" and sending them back out, while making ca$h on the back end, via highlight videos like "NFL's Greatest Hits."



    Marino also says, "right now", leaving open the possibility that he felt such protection measures should have been in place back when he was playing, again given the argument that the league already knew about the pervasive damage brain-related injuries could cause.

    Final note: I miss his old Isotoner Glove commercials. Every dad got those as a Christmas gift.
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    Jun 03, 2014 3:33 PM GMT
    eb925guy saidIf a mailman walks every day to deliver mail and then needs knee replacements, is that the fault of the Postal Service? If a trucker drives his whole life (in football years that about 10 years) and develops blood clots in his legs, is that the fault of the trucking company?


    Marino's suit is the equivalent of that mailman slipping on ice and falling on his head, but the USPS-paid doctors telling him he didn't sustain a concussion when he actually did, then sending him back out to continue his mail route because, in their minds, the mail has to be delivered without fail.

    Or, the trucker not being told about the blood clots while he was still driving, if he can prove the trucking company knew about them (his, specifically) and the associated health danger he could face by continuing to drive but concealed the clots and sent him out there anyway, has every right to sue his employer. Whether said trucker or postman would actually win the suit would be up to the courts.
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    Jun 03, 2014 4:29 PM GMT
    eb925guy saidI'm sorry but I totally disagree with this! If these guys didn't have the intelligence to think that pounding your head on the ground or against another player or a dummy in practice all those years was going to be an issue later in life, then shame on them for being so stupid.

    They're after some free money. They got paid big bucks for knocking their gray matter around and they made the choice to do it. Too bad, live with the results.

    If a mailman walks every day to deliver mail and then needs knee replacements, is that the fault of the Postal Service? If a trucker drives his whole life (in football years that about 10 years) and develops blood clots in his legs, is that the fault of the trucking company?

    This is pure BS. These guys are losers in my book!
    I agree with you 100%. Dan Marino chose to pursue professional football on his own volition and he damned well knew how dangerous football could be so this lawsuit is nonsensical to start with because he made a conscientious decision to pursue the limelight of professional football. No one held a gun to his head telling him to be a football player. Let Dan Marino accept the responsibilities for his past career choices and live with them. This lawsuit should be tossed out of court, end of discussion.
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    Jun 03, 2014 4:43 PM GMT
    https://www.google.com/#q=DAN+MARINO+NET+worth&safe=off

    Marino is estimated to have lost $13.6 million --a considerable amount even for a retired football superstar who still holds 16 NFL records. Celebrity Net Worth says Marino's net worth is about $35 million. Marino is not alone in the world of failed NFL quarterback entrepreneurs


    Hey, if you were a "failed NFL quarterback entrepreneur" worth a measly $35 million, you'd be screaming concussion too.
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    Jun 03, 2014 4:44 PM GMT
    eb925guy saidI'm sorry but I totally disagree with this! If these guys didn't have the intelligence to think that pounding your head on the ground or against another player or a dummy in practice all those years was going to be an issue later in life, then shame on them for being so stupid.

    They're after some free money. They got paid big bucks for knocking their gray matter around and they made the choice to do it. Too bad, live with the results.

    If a mailman walks every day to deliver mail and then needs knee replacements, is that the fault of the Postal Service? If a trucker drives his whole life (in football years that about 10 years) and develops blood clots in his legs, is that the fault of the trucking company?

    This is pure BS. These guys are losers in my book!

    I totally concur with you mate !!
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    Jun 03, 2014 4:50 PM GMT
    America has more solicitors/barristers by the square meter that everywhere in the world icon_smile.gif
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    Jun 03, 2014 6:47 PM GMT
    Football players have always known that there are risks of injury, but recent findings in the medical community have shown the risk of brain injury is astronomical. I doubt the NFL will maintain its popularity long term, because soon there will be a generation of parents who simply don't let their kids play that particular sport.
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    HottJoe saidFootball players have always known that there are risks of injury, but recent findings in the medical community have shown the risk of brain injury is astronomical. I doubt the NFL will maintain its popularity long term, because soon there will be a generation of parents who simply don't let their kids play that particular sport.
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    Jun 03, 2014 7:26 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidsoon there will be a generation of parents who simply don't let their kids play that particular sport.

    Parents are so smart and can be counted on to always do the right thing for their kids.

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    Jun 03, 2014 8:17 PM GMT
    Probably this possible development will finally increase the popularity of soccer in the US and our great country will finally join most of the rest of the world in embracing soccer.

    It could also spell the end of the powerful NFL oligarchs and their control over politicians and taxpayers providing them with fancy, modern stadiums at no cost to the NFL owners. It cannot happen soon enough because here in Buffalo the county and the state are being asked to fork over hundreds of millions of dollars for a brand new football stadium for the Buffalo Bills. I say bullshit to that idea. We have far more pressing issues in Buffalo and Erie County.
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    Jun 03, 2014 9:02 PM GMT
    Oh, by the way, Marino has two words for all of us teeth-gnashers:

    "NEVER MIND!"

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24579748/report-dan-marino-to-withdraw-from-concussion-lawsuit-vs-nfl

    CBSSports.comFormer Dolphins quarterback Dan Marino has decided to withdraw his name from a concussion-related lawsuit that was filed last week against the NFL, according to the South Florida Sun Sentinel.

    According to the Sun Sentinel, Marino's involvement in the lawsuit was a mistake.

    "It was never Marino's intention to initiate litigation in this case, but to ensure that in the event he had adverse health consequences down the road, he would be covered with health benefits. They are working to correct the error," a source told the paper.

    According to ESPN.com, Marino was concerned that a possible job with the Dolphins could be 'jeopardized' because of the lawsuit.


    You may all now redirect your collective ire toward the other 14 complainants. Hey, MOSES MORENO isn't much of a spell-change! icon_cool.gif

    CBSSports.comIt's still not completely clear why Marino was named in the lawsuit in the first place. Back in August, a $765 million concussion settlement was reached between the NFL and its former players. The settlement includes all former NFL players whether they were plaintiffs in the lawsuit or not.

    That settlement still hasn't been approved by the court though, it was rejected by U.S. District Judge Anita Brody in January. However, the two sides are still attempting to hammer out a final settlement.
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    Jun 03, 2014 9:06 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal said
    HottJoe saidsoon there will be a generation of parents who simply don't let their kids play that particular sport.

    Parents are so smart and can be counted on to always do the right thing for their kids.

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    You can't prove that baptism causes brain damage. It might just be a coincidence.icon_twisted.gif

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    Jun 03, 2014 9:54 PM GMT
    dayumm saidMarino's suit is the equivalent of that mailman slipping on ice and falling on his head, but the USPS-paid doctors telling him he didn't sustain a concussion when he actually did, then sending him back out to continue his mail route because, in their minds, the mail has to be delivered without fail.

    Or, the trucker not being told about the blood clots while he was still driving, if he can prove the trucking company knew about them (his, specifically) and the associated health danger he could face by continuing to drive but concealed the clots and sent him out there anyway, has every right to sue his employer. Whether said trucker or postman would actually win the suit would be up to the courts.

    I'm sorry but I don't buy that. These are grown men who chose a profession that included getting their heads knocked around week after week. I'm not a rocket scientist but I know that doesn't make sense. They had no complaints when the money was coming in but after their careers, then suddenly, it's someone else's fault. They need to accept accountability for their own actions, not blaming everyone else.
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    Jun 03, 2014 10:07 PM GMT
    eb925guy said
    dayumm saidMarino's suit is the equivalent of that mailman slipping on ice and falling on his head, but the USPS-paid doctors telling him he didn't sustain a concussion when he actually did, then sending him back out to continue his mail route because, in their minds, the mail has to be delivered without fail.

    Or, the trucker not being told about the blood clots while he was still driving, if he can prove the trucking company knew about them (his, specifically) and the associated health danger he could face by continuing to drive but concealed the clots and sent him out there anyway, has every right to sue his employer. Whether said trucker or postman would actually win the suit would be up to the courts.

    I'm sorry but I don't buy that. These are grown men who chose a profession that included getting their heads knocked around week after week. I'm not a rocket scientist but I know that doesn't make sense. They had no complaints when the money was coming in but after their careers, then suddenly, it's someone else's fault. They need to accept accountability for their own actions, not blaming everyone else.

    It's only been in recent years that the medical community has been able to show the long term consequences, and how widespread it is (basically 98% of players tested posthumously were shown to suffer terrible brain damage as a result of the sport). What's more the NFL suppressed the information and put at risk players back out on the field without telling them what danger they were in.

    The trouble with football is that all the players regularly get concussions because of the way the game is played. There is no way to avoid concussions without drastically changing the fundamentals of the game.

    I don't think football is going to change its rules anytime soon, but it's not looking good, as more data keeps emerging. I just don't see parents wanting their kids to play a sport that causes brain damage, especially since there are other sports.
  • tj85016

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    Jun 04, 2014 3:44 AM GMT
    he should sue all the linebackers who wacked him in the head, they're more culpable than the NFL
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    tj85016 saidhe should sue all the linebackers who wacked him in the head, they're more culpanle than the NFL

    Exactly..they're all bullies! icon_eek.gificon_eek.gificon_eek.gificon_eek.gif
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    eb925guy said
    I'm sorry but I don't buy that. These are grown men who chose a profession that included getting their heads knocked around week after week. I'm not a rocket scientist but I know that doesn't make sense. They had no complaints when the money was coming in but after their careers, then suddenly, it's someone else's fault. They need to accept accountability for their own actions, not blaming everyone else.


    Go up and read his earlier post again. it's about having injuries concealed from them so that they continue to play. That is a MUCH different matter than merely getting a concussion, which is what you seem to be arguing about.

    The McDonald's/Coffee incident should be a lesson to everyone: whenever anyone tries to inspire your outrage over a lawsuit, it's a safe bet that you're not being told the whole story.
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    Jun 04, 2014 4:27 AM GMT
    so you need teams of doctors, CAT scans and MRI's to tell you getting bashed in the head 900 times is not good for you huh?

    bullshit
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    Jun 04, 2014 1:49 PM GMT
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    eb925guy said
    I'm sorry but I don't buy that. These are grown men who chose a profession that included getting their heads knocked around week after week. I'm not a rocket scientist but I know that doesn't make sense. They had no complaints when the money was coming in but after their careers, then suddenly, it's someone else's fault. They need to accept accountability for their own actions, not blaming everyone else.


    Go up and read his earlier post again. it's about having injuries concealed from them so that they continue to play. That is a MUCH different matter than merely getting a concussion, which is what you seem to be arguing about.

    The McDonald's/Coffee incident should be a lesson to everyone: whenever anyone tries to inspire your outrage over a lawsuit, it's a safe bet that you're not being told the whole story.


    This. Again it's not the risk, or how much anyone's getting paid to incur risk. It's about having the thing you're risking actually happening and you not finding out because your employer needs you to keep working. Whether you agree to make 5, 6, or 7 digits after the dollar sign, that is not in your, or anyone's, contract when you "sign up."
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    Jun 04, 2014 1:54 PM GMT
    good news, he withdrew his name from the suit
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    Jun 04, 2014 1:57 PM GMT
    BTW, now that Dan's backtracking, the winning Tweet comes from @HHReynolds

    HH Reynolds (via Twitter)Dan Marino isnt sure how he sued the NFL for head injuries. He's very confused about how this happened.

    Case closed. Pay this man his money.


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