Gay Rape and HIV

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    Jun 05, 2014 12:56 AM GMT
    2 important lessons from the story

    1) Condoms are not always effective
    2) Gay rape is a serious problem that's just now getting more exposure

    Bathhouse Rape
    http://therealsingapore.com/content/dear-trs-i-was-raped-gay-sauna-and-rapists-infected-me-hiv

    Drunk Victim Rape
    http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90882/7974737.html

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    Jun 05, 2014 2:29 AM GMT
    Thats nothing new and you should add prison to that list.
  • Bunjamon

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    Jun 05, 2014 4:07 AM GMT
    David3K saidThat's nothing new.


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    Jun 05, 2014 4:17 AM GMT
    David3K saidThats nothing new and you should add prison to that list.

    Indeed, a national scandal. That we all know about, joke about (don't bend over for the shower soap), but don't do anything about. We're no better than Turkish prisons.

    When I went to donate blood right after 9/11 I went through a screening process. (I was ultimately barred from donating blood for life because I admitted to being gay, and I remain barred today, though I'm HIV- and have never had an STD in my life, my blood perfectly usable).

    And one of the questions the screener asked was if I ever had been in jail for more than 72 hours. (No) A yes answer would have disqualified me from donating, because it was assumed I would have been anally raped by that time, after release from administrative segregation into the general prison population.

    And I thought that was a fine commentary on the state of the US prison system, that inmate rape was just assumed to be normal and inevitable.
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    Jun 05, 2014 6:34 AM GMT
    canadian_stud said2 important lessons from the story

    1) Condoms are not always effective
    2) Gay rape is a serious problem that's just now getting more exposure

    Bathhouse Rape
    [url]http://therealsingapore.com/content/dear-trs-i-was-raped-gay-sauna-and-rapists-infected-me-hiv
    [/url]

    I'm a bit doubtful of the Singapore story - Rape happens all the time in prison, like ArtDeco points out. But Saunas? I haven't been to one in many years, but I never saw any indications of forced sex. This guy reported severe symptoms several weeks after the rape in a "foreign" country. From my knowledge, severe HIV/Aids symptoms just do not occur that soon. So maybe he was lying about the rape, to provide an excuse for his becoming HIV positive. Never says what country it was, either.

    Is gay rape a problem outside of prison? Are people writing about date rape?
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    Jun 05, 2014 6:51 AM GMT
    I would guess rape or heat of the moment penetration is a big culpret. I was in this situation but pulled away. I found out later the guy tested positive for HIV. So I was lucky.
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    Jun 05, 2014 7:45 AM GMT
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    HikerSkier said
    ...But Saunas? I haven't been to one in many years, but I never saw any indications of forced sex...Is gay rape a problem outside of prison? Are people writing about date rape?


    Rape is exaggerated by the feminists who have a man hating agenda.

    Some guy put his arms around my waist at a club recently as he was passing by. I just twisted around and stone walled him - he got the message. icon_wink.gif I guess if that happened to a feminist she would probably go on line and rave about being sexually assaulted and objectified by the Patriarchy and we need to "SMASH CAPITALISM!!!"icon_rolleyes.gif

    Dude youre an idiot. Many women get raped and they dont even declare it and you're saying the whole rape thing is because some feminist hidden agenda? I noticed so many gays hate women, probably because they steal the men from you icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 05, 2014 8:28 AM GMT
    ^ I hate to repeat myself but dude you're an idiot. Most women do NOT hate men and certainly most of them do NOT invent rapes. It's clear you hold a grudge against all women so you take single acts done by a crazy minority (women faking rapes) and try to apply it to ALL females which is far from truth. Let alone that domestic violence against women is done by men and the rates are scarily high, or are you gonna deny that too?
    Youre a disgrace for our gender, as men we must protect women not blame them for things they're not guilty but victims most of the time.
  • tj85016

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    Jun 05, 2014 8:41 AM GMT
    I think rape became politicized because it's under prosecuted. The US has 400,00 untested rape kits. Who knows what the situation is like in Brazil, India and China
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    Jun 05, 2014 10:16 AM GMT
    HikerSkier said
    canadian_stud said2 important lessons from the story

    1) Condoms are not always effective
    2) Gay rape is a serious problem that's just now getting more exposure

    Bathhouse Rape
    [url]http://therealsingapore.com/content/dear-trs-i-was-raped-gay-sauna-and-rapists-infected-me-hiv
    [/url]

    I'm a bit doubtful of the Singapore story - Rape happens all the time in prison, like ArtDeco points out. But Saunas? I haven't been to one in many years, but I never saw any indications of forced sex. This guy reported severe symptoms several weeks after the rape in a "foreign" country. From my knowledge, severe HIV/Aids symptoms just do not occur that soon. So maybe he was lying about the rape, to provide an excuse for his becoming HIV positive. Never says what country it was, either.

    Is gay rape a problem outside of prison? Are people writing about date rape?


    I was thinking the same thing...
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    Jun 05, 2014 12:05 PM GMT
    David3K said
    silver_bullet said
    HikerSkier said
    ...But Saunas? I haven't been to one in many years, but I never saw any indications of forced sex...Is gay rape a problem outside of prison? Are people writing about date rape?


    Rape is exaggerated by the feminists who have a man hating agenda.

    Some guy put his arms around my waist at a club recently as he was passing by. I just twisted around and stone walled him - he got the message. icon_wink.gif I guess if that happened to a feminist she would probably go on line and rave about being sexually assaulted and objectified by the Patriarchy and we need to "SMASH CAPITALISM!!!"icon_rolleyes.gif

    Dude youre an idiot. Many women get raped and they dont even declare it and you're saying the whole rape thing is because some feminist hidden agenda? I noticed so many gays hate women, probably because they steal the men from you icon_lol.gif


    The only gay men I've ever encountered that hate women are the weird right winger ones.
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    Jun 05, 2014 12:07 PM GMT
    David3K said^ I hate to repeat myself but dude you're an idiot. Most women do NOT hate men and certainly most of them do NOT invent rapes. It's clear you hold a grudge against all women so you take single acts done by a crazy minority (women faking rapes) and try to apply it to ALL females which is far from truth. Let alone that domestic violence against women is done by men and the rates are scarily high, or are you gonna deny that too?
    Youre a disgrace for our gender, as men we must defend women not blame them for things they're not guilty but victims most of the time.


    He does this with gays, blacks, and women. It's his modus operandi.
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    Jun 05, 2014 1:51 PM GMT
    Wow, this is some crazy stuff. I went to a gay bar once and after being touched inappropriately by several guys when walking by, I decided that it wasn't a place for me. What happened to just saying hi and striking a conversation?
    Since when is feeling up a stranger a way to show interest?
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    Jun 05, 2014 2:16 PM GMT
    silver_bullet said
    David3K said
    silver_bullet said

    Rape is exaggerated by the feminists who have a man hating agenda.


    Dude youre an idiot. Many women get raped and they dont even declare it and you're saying the whole rape thing is because some feminist hidden agenda? I noticed so many gays hate women, probably because they steal the men from you icon_lol.gif


    Actually the rape stats are distorted by the feminists. But don't take my word for it, go do your own homework. Please come back with your conclusions on the 1 in 4/1 in 5 rape claim.

    Are you aware of the step change Political Lesbians made when they hijacked the Feminist movement in the 1970s? Up until them rape was something the individual perpetrator was responsible for, it was a reflection on their poor character. The 2nd wave feminists took the concept of rape and spun it as a tool of "oppression" used by the "oppressor class", namely men, conspiring to control the "oppressed class", namely wymmin [ notice the Marxian vocab - these 2nd wave feminists were all rabid Maoists and Stalinst on University campuses across the USA.]

    By politicising rape they can claim "ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS" because men "rape wymmin as a class". They fake the rape and child abuse stats to fit this, and then demand resources and funding for their push for pet projects - "Outreaches","Consciousness Raising", "Lesbian Workshops", legal "reforms".

    You don't have to drink the feminist coolade just because as a gay you feel you owe them something. They hate men, gay guys shouldn't.


    This is rich. You've been accusing us and Yourname of some kind of rape thing on other topics, and we're people you not only don't have a clue about, but also live half a planet away and the supposed victim has already stated publicly it's a pack of lies. icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 05, 2014 10:38 PM GMT
    ^ Im sorry you're so bitter you hate half the population of the world. I was gonna suggest you date old member Kiwilifter and then it hit me, you ARE kiwilifter icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 05, 2014 10:57 PM GMT
    I hate feminists.