How much commitment in bulking?

  • Mitchell7665

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    Jun 05, 2014 5:03 AM GMT
    So finally resuming training after 3 months of settling after moving cities and to boost my results, I've increased my nutrition relevant to muscle building. Ive noticed some muscle and fat gain but Im not sure how much bulking has to do with it.
    Most bulking plans I've seen require frequent, regimented training which is more than my 3 times a week, weights routines and Im worried if I don't bulk "by the book" its not going to work and ill just end up with a heap of fat to burn off in time for summer (in Aus, southern hemisphere).

    In order for bulking to work is it necessary to follow strict weights and nutrition plans? or is it enough to just train by "if your abs are showing you ain't growing"?
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    Jun 05, 2014 7:27 AM GMT
    If you're not burning more calories than you consume, all that food is going to be stored as fat. If you're not planning to workout consistently with intensity, then bulking is not the right plan for you.
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    Jun 05, 2014 10:56 PM GMT
    If you burn off more calories than you consume:

    a) you will be *losing* weight, not bulking.
    b) By definition, if you want to add muscle, you have to take in more calories, preferably as protein, than you did to maintain your previous weight. If you were just maintaining, how can you possibly have the necessary building blocks to build new bodily tissues?

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  • mybud

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    Jun 06, 2014 2:44 AM GMT
    The cleaner the bulk, the less fat you gain.
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    Jun 06, 2014 11:30 AM GMT
    xrichx saidIf you're not burning more calories than you consume, all that food is going to be stored as fat. If you're not planning to workout consistently with intensity, then bulking is not the right plan for you.
    +1

    It depends on how fast you want to gain the weight.

    If you want it fast you can't avoid gaining fat but as long as you stick to some workout regime you should still gain muscle. The drawback is that you might want to cut the fat afterwards.

    If you want to avoid any fat you can still gain weight in pure muscle it will just take longer (multiple of the time it takes for regular bulking).

    Pick the route you like better and adjust your diet and workouts to it. It's not rocket science just try what suits you better and stick to it.
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    Jun 06, 2014 11:30 PM GMT
    mybud saidThe cleaner the bulk, the less fat you gain.


    +1

    Moreover, you can get fat consuming LESS calories than you need. All you need to do to achieve this is to space your meals poorly and consume simple carbs.

    You can consume more calories than you burn while minimizing the fat increase. Unless it's a pre or post-workout meal, avoid simple carbs at all cost, even in a bulking diet. Your meals should contain nothing but protein, good fats (from nuts, oils, açaí, coconut, etc) and complex carbs (oatmeal, sweet potato, raw cereals)

    My current bulking diet contains 6000Kcal and I use no gainer shake whatsoever.
  • TallSoCal

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    Jun 07, 2014 4:29 PM GMT
    Whether you bulk or cut, it takes 100% commitment and dedication. They don't call fitness a "lifestyle" for nothing.
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    Jun 08, 2014 8:52 AM GMT
    mybud saidThe cleaner the bulk, the less fat you gain.


    Correct
  • JackDoyle

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    Jun 08, 2014 8:10 PM GMT
    I bought a bag of 'Serious Mass' weight gainer and gained 12lb, it's fairly pricey but it works
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    Jun 09, 2014 12:27 AM GMT
    JackDoyle saidI bought a bag of 'Serious Mass' weight gainer and gained 12lb, it's fairly pricey but it works


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  • TroyAthlete

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    Jun 09, 2014 5:11 AM GMT
    xrichx saidIf you're not burning more calories than you consume, all that food is going to be stored as fat.


    Broscience. I'm sure all the guys who have gained tons of muscle by not burning more calories than they consume would be shocked that all that weight gain was fat.
  • Jo3x

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    Jun 12, 2014 4:24 AM GMT
    What is behind the concept to burn more calories than consumed, how do you calculate this?
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    Jun 12, 2014 6:14 AM GMT
    Jo3x saidWhat is behind the concept to burn more calories than consumed, how do you calculate this?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caloric_deficit

    There's no easy way to calculate this since everyone's body reacts differently to diet and exercise. So it's either trial/error, or go see a nutritionist.
  • MrPeanut

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    Jun 13, 2014 8:43 PM GMT
    Mitchell7665 saidSo finally resuming training after 3 months of settling after moving cities and to boost my results, I've increased my nutrition relevant to muscle building. Ive noticed some muscle and fat gain but Im not sure how much bulking has to do with it.
    Most bulking plans I've seen require frequent, regimented training which is more than my 3 times a week, weights routines and Im worried if I don't bulk "by the book" its not going to work and ill just end up with a heap of fat to burn off in time for summer (in Aus, southern hemisphere).

    In order for bulking to work is it necessary to follow strict weights and nutrition plans? or is it enough to just train by "if your abs are showing you ain't growing"?


    The amount of commitment depends on your goals. If you want to cleanly "bulk" without much fat gain it requires you to constantly reevaluate and monitor your diet and calorie intake and keep a strict workout regimen. Most people are willing to put on a bit of fat that they work off later. This requires a bit less commitment but aesthetically you have that period where you may not be happy with your looks.

    It also depends on how effectively your body handles protein synthesis which is linked to many factors. The fact is some guys just have an easier time than others.
  • glowstik

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    Jun 14, 2014 8:00 AM GMT
    I also wanna gain 15 lbs! isnt that what we're all working on haha? But seriously now, am I right people?

    Ok, well this is pretty hard for me being prescribed addereall lol, but I'm determined to get bigger.

    Easiest solutions for clean protein that I'm doing

    Large can of cooked/grilled chicken: just open it with your mobile can opener and eat it like a cat

    Small jar of peanut butter, preferably organic and crunchy: spoon feed yourself and take it work

    Apple with apple slicer: eat with 6 tbsp of peanit butter

    6 jumbo eggs, scrambled with cheese and toast: tasty before bed

    More difficult options I am contemplating:

    GOMAD: gallon of milk a day

    Loaf: Loaf of bread a day

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    Aug 08, 2014 7:16 PM GMT
    JackDoyle saidI bought a bag of 'Serious Mass' weight gainer and gained 12lb, it's fairly pricey but it works


    With a good meal plan? I have found that drinking those shakes without a proper meal plan is just waste of time/money really. I'm starting a clean bulk cycle and it's pain in the ass. Not eating out at all, and pretty much eating every 2 hours or so healthy food.