The Most LGBT-Friendly City In America Has Been Declared

  • metta

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    Jun 05, 2014 5:59 AM GMT
    The Most LGBT-Friendly City In America Has Been Declared


    http://www.policymic.com/articles/90413/the-most-lgbt-friendly-city-in-america-has-been-declared
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    Jun 05, 2014 6:28 AM GMT
    Interesting. These "best" lists are always a bit problematic, and debatable.

    I came out in Seattle, lived there 5 years. Yes, it's very gay friendly in most respects. It also has a hostile police force that has a long history of abusing the gay community. Apparently this ranking didn't take that into account.

    Enjoy being out in Seattle, but be wary when you see the police approach. And don't expect them to do much if you get assaulted by homophobes, because they really don't care. City politicians and senior police brass put out nice PR about reform, but the rank & file police are as gay-hostile as they ever were. It seems to be culturally engrained in the Seattle PD, and no PR is gonna change that.

    Minneapolis and St. Paul are also gay friendly, without reservations. My time there was always good, I even led their enormous Pride Parade on my motorcycle (with 60 other bikers) for 2 years. Problem is the rest of the State is much less so. Just 20 miles to the northwest is Michele Bachmann's Congressional District, as homophobic as you can get, with perhaps the highest gay teen suicide rate in the US.

    Stay within the city limits and you're OK. Venture into the suburbs and beyond and you may be dead meat. An oasis in a sea of gay hatred.

    I'm sorry, I can't see Atlanta at all. That's nutty. They leave greater Fort Lauderdale off the list for Atlanta? Right there the list is a big FAIL.

    The balance of the cities I could accept as friendly, though I think it omits at least a few.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Jun 05, 2014 11:26 AM GMT
    I guess I can buy what they are saying and I certainly would have put some of those cities on the list. To name a city "number one" can be a challenge, however.
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    Jun 05, 2014 11:54 AM GMT
    I've lived in Austin and DC. While both great cities, DC is ten times more gay-friendly than Austin.
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    Jun 05, 2014 12:14 PM GMT
    I'd rather live in a not-so-gay friendly city if it means the diaper clad/leather jockstrap attention freaks don't show up for the pride parade mess.
  • LuckyGuyKC

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    Jun 05, 2014 12:15 PM GMT
    Obviously NYC needs to eradicate a lot of hetero couples so the percentage of same sex couples will increase!

    I would say this is a dubious list with little meaning as it goes "friendliness." Shear numbers means nothing other than numbers.
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    Jun 05, 2014 1:14 PM GMT
    you see a lot of these lists
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    Jun 05, 2014 1:37 PM GMT
    Sounds like a conspiracy to me. After all, with Seattle being the suicide capital of the country, it would make perfect sense for the haters to play up that place as the most gay-friendly. Just food for thought. icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 05, 2014 1:40 PM GMT
    They should include Canadian cities in the list.
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    Jun 05, 2014 2:13 PM GMT
    Bullshit list. This guy obviously just made this up off the top of his head. "Atlanta?" Seriously? As one of the commenters said, to even have Atlanta on the list but not put New Orleans in there at all? Ridiculous.
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    Jun 05, 2014 2:15 PM GMT
    does anyone take these lists seriously?

    I think they're just for entertainment. like something to distract u from work for like 3 mins.
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    Jun 05, 2014 2:17 PM GMT
    If you want to make a difference, you don't go where it's friendly.
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    Jun 05, 2014 3:42 PM GMT
    shawnathan saidIf you want to make a difference, you don't go where it's friendly.


    Exactly, and on many different levels!

    Oakland? Seriously? The crime rate alone in that place is enough to take it off any "friendly" list. Me, I'd vote for Ann Arbor, MI, where I came out. And, I share smartmoney's thoughts about so-called "Pride" parades, SF's by far being the absolute worst in terms of gross public displays of grotesque personal fetishes.
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    Jun 05, 2014 4:14 PM GMT
    Lol ... @ Oakland, Long Beach really? Lol
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    Jun 05, 2014 4:27 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidBullshit list. This guy obviously just made this up off the top of his head. "Atlanta?" Seriously? As one of the commenters said, to even have Atlanta on the list but not put New Orleans in there at all? Ridiculous.


    New Orleans proper accepts and embraces all sorts of interesting characters, cultures, and outcasts. It's what makes the New Orleans culture so unique. The bland, banal, white bread suburbs and Northshore - not so much.
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    Jun 05, 2014 4:37 PM GMT
    smartmoney saidI'd rather live in a not-so-gay friendly city if it means the diaper clad/leather jockstrap attention freaks don't show up for the pride parade mess.

    I mentioned the Twin Cities Pride Parade in Minneapolis (on this list), and it never had those freaks in it, as you call them. A rather tame & typical upper midwest parade in many respects. I think the SF excesses (of which I don't approve) have given the rest of Prides in the US a bad name that most don't deserve.

    Nor is there anything shameful about our much smaller Stonewall Pride here in Fort Lauderdale/Wilton Manors. At most a couple of floats from local gay clubs with some bikini bois on them, but nothing raunchy, no more skin than you'd see at our beaches. And the crowd isn't raunchy, either, rather vanilla, in fact.
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    Jun 05, 2014 4:41 PM GMT
    field123 saidI've lived in Austin and DC. While both great cities, DC is ten times more gay-friendly than Austin.


    That may be, but DC's status in that regard is largely artificial. As it is the nation's capital, lobbyists and activists from all over the country naturally flock there.

    But a win is a win.
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    Jun 05, 2014 4:44 PM GMT
    MGINSD said
    shawnathan saidIf you want to make a difference, you don't go where it's friendly.


    Exactly, and on many different levels!

    Oakland? Seriously? The crime rate alone in that place is enough to take it off any "friendly" list. Me, I'd vote for Ann Arbor, MI, where I came out. And, I share smartmoney's thoughts about so-called "Pride" parades, SF's by far being the absolute worst in terms of gross public displays of grotesque personal fetishes.


    By a similar criterion, I would be dubious about Ann Arbor. While it seems to be weathering the effects of economic downturn better than expected, on balance no place in Michigan is friendly to anyone in economic terms.
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    Jun 05, 2014 5:09 PM GMT
    sweetyork saidThey should include Canadian cities in the list.


    Canadian cities will never make the list. It's too damn cold there. The gays need sun, sand, and surf.
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    Jun 05, 2014 5:25 PM GMT
    My pet peeve about all "City" rankings is, jurisdictionally, they're not really city rankings but "Metro" area rankings. Midtown is nice, but without friendly suburban spots like Decatur and Avondale Estates, Atlanta certainly isn't "#3-ranked Atlanta."

    I can certainly see ATL making it into a top-ten list. But I have to agree, there's no logical reason why Atlanta's in and Fort Lauderdale's out.

    I think it's a good thing, though, that we might be reaching a point where the U.S. "Metros" in states without Marriage Equality probably shouldn't even qualify for such lists.
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    Jun 05, 2014 6:27 PM GMT
    Gay friendly doesn't mean everyone in that city will like you and it's not like you see guys just making out on the side of the street icon_razz.gif

    Well in SF..........
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jun 06, 2014 2:13 AM GMT
    sweetyork saidThey should include Canadian cities in the list.
    Whyicon_question.gif This is just about cities in the US only. There is no legitimate need to include cities from another country. Why do you Canadians have to chime in on everything Americanicon_question.gif
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jun 06, 2014 2:30 AM GMT
    MGINSD said
    shawnathan saidIf you want to make a difference, you don't go where it's friendly.


    Exactly, and on many different levels!

    Oakland? Seriously? The crime rate alone in that place is enough to take it off any "friendly" list. Me, I'd vote for Ann Arbor, MI, where I came out. And, I share smartmoney's thoughts about so-called "Pride" parades, SF's by far being the absolute worst in terms of gross public displays of grotesque personal fetishes.
    Oakland is making major improvements in its quality of life and it is getting its crime rate under control. That city is enjoying a revitalization due to the fact that San Francisco is just too damned expensive. Oakland is also a hub for a few fortune 500 companies as well. It is not all ghetto and decay in Oakland. There is much more to that misunderstood city than its urban problems and its NFL football team, the Raiders. Every city has serious urban problems. No place is perfect.
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    Jun 06, 2014 3:24 AM GMT
    Jack_NNJ said
    MGINSD said
    shawnathan saidIf you want to make a difference, you don't go where it's friendly.


    Exactly, and on many different levels!

    Oakland? Seriously? The crime rate alone in that place is enough to take it off any "friendly" list. Me, I'd vote for Ann Arbor, MI, where I came out. And, I share smartmoney's thoughts about so-called "Pride" parades, SF's by far being the absolute worst in terms of gross public displays of grotesque personal fetishes.


    By a similar criterion, I would be dubious about Ann Arbor. While it seems to be weathering the effects of economic downturn better than expected, on balance no place in Michigan is friendly to anyone in economic terms.


    The similar criterion you use - economics - was not the one I did: crime. MI is light years ahead of CA and many other states in terms of economic friendliness. They learned the lessons the other states did not. Detroit is the only real drag on MI's economy and Michiganders are rightly getting increasingly fed up with supporting its dole.
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    Jun 06, 2014 3:27 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    MGINSD said
    shawnathan saidIf you want to make a difference, you don't go where it's friendly.


    Exactly, and on many different levels!

    Oakland? Seriously? The crime rate alone in that place is enough to take it off any "friendly" list. Me, I'd vote for Ann Arbor, MI, where I came out. And, I share smartmoney's thoughts about so-called "Pride" parades, SF's by far being the absolute worst in terms of gross public displays of grotesque personal fetishes.
    Oakland is making major improvements in its quality of life and it is getting its crime rate under control. That city is enjoying a revitalization due to the fact that San Francisco is just too damned expensive. Oakland is also a hub for a few fortune 500 companies as well. It is not all ghetto and decay in Oakland. There is much more to that misunderstood city than its urban problems and its NFL football team, the Raiders. Every city has serious urban problems. No place is perfect.


    Fair enough, even if Oakland's "rebirth" has been going on since I moved to SF in the late '70s. And, SF IS too damned expensive; no argument there. But, if a city's going to be on a top ten list of anything, it'd better have crime under control, and Oakland does not.