Does anyone have the new Mac Pro cylinder hard drive?

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    Jun 06, 2014 5:37 AM GMT
    How does it work for you? Any problems? Is the $4000 version worth the $1000 difference for like Photoshop and illustrator (multiple applications)?
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    Jun 06, 2014 1:52 PM GMT
    reference:
    everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/mac-pro-cylinder-faq/how-to-upgrade-mac-pro-cylinder-ssd-storage.html" target="_blank">http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/mac-pro-cylinder-faq/how-to-upgrade-mac-pro-cylinder-ssd-storage.html

    the unit comes with a 256G solid state drive.
    if your talking about the drive alone:
    -SS drives work well to initially bringing up applications or moving large files into an application.
    -where the SS drives them selves are much more reliable the firmware and legacy drivers are not.
    -apple may have an upgraded SATA interface in the unit.

    you can put a SS drive in any computer, newegg.com is a great site to get functional reviews and moderate pricing.


    -i would use caution on buying anything brand new first revision from Apple. I like this forum forums.macrumors.com

    -Avoid a computer unless it has a solid state drive. if you must say yes to another excess try the apple refurbished site:
    http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac?afid=p201|1221526&cid=AOS-US-AFFC


    hope this helps
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    Jun 06, 2014 2:12 PM GMT
    The new Mac Pro TinCan Towers use a proprietary Solid State Drive, and not the general 2.5" SATA.

    Apple, in their infinite chokehold on their market, has not yet released the building specs to 3rd party manufacturers... or if they have, those manufacturers are not going to have TinCan compatible drives available at least until the Fall of this year.

    You can, at least for now, ONLY get the the 256GB of the 1TB drives installed as an option at purchase. Even Apple doesn't directly sell the 1TB drive to upgrade yourself.

    That said, they are blazing fast and amazingly powerful pieces of computing sexiness.
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    Jun 06, 2014 2:36 PM GMT
    I don't have the cylinder hard drive, but my iMac does have a split 256GB SSD and 1TB hard drive. I run all the programs off the SSD, while all the files I create go into the hard drive. It runs very fast, the Mac boots in seconds, haven't had any troubles.

    Except, initially all new files I created wanted to go into the SSD, the hard drive wasn't being used. With only 256GB the SSD quickly became full. I had to call Apple Help (always a quick response), and they talked me through some commands to sort that out, works fine now.
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    Jun 06, 2014 8:05 PM GMT
    I was puzzled by their description of the ssd drive. On their web page it says

    There’s flash storage, and then there’s next-generation PCIe-based flash storage. ... Most flash storage systems connect via SATA buses designed for slower spinning hard drives. But we designed the new Mac Pro around new PCIe-based flash controller technology.

    I'm old school and am still using rotating magnetic media but when I first looked at ssd drives several years ago for a pc they were all on a card that plugged into a slot. Dunno if it was regular PCI or PCIe though.

    http://tinyurl.com/lcauwsd
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    Jun 06, 2014 8:44 PM GMT
    Addendum to my previous post; this article

    http://www.computerweekly.com/feature/PCIe-SSD-What-it-is-and-how-you-can-use-it

    was first published in June 2010.
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    Jun 07, 2014 3:53 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]pellaz said[/cite]reference:
    everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/mac-pro-cylinder-faq/how-to-upgrade-mac-pro-cylinder-ssd-storage.html" target="_blank">http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/mac-pro-cylinder-faq/how-to-upgrade-mac-pro-cylinder-ssd-storage.html

    the unit comes with a 256G solid state drive.
    if your talking about the drive alone:
    -SS drives work well to initially bringing up applications or moving large files into an application.
    -where the SS drives them selves are much more reliable the firmware and legacy drivers are not.
    -apple may have an upgraded SATA interface in the unit.

    Thanks, Great post and links. I am reluctant to buy first generation also. But my old Power PC from 2006 is so slow when running 2 graphics applications. I wonder how long for the 2nd generation?
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    Jun 07, 2014 4:54 AM GMT
    bradomo saidBut my old Power PC from 2006 is so slow when running 2 graphics applications. I wonder how long for the 2nd generation?

    You're definitely on the technology trailing edge. You'll need to add in the cost of new apps since the Power PC ones don't run on the Intel based machines as far as I know.
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    Jun 07, 2014 5:33 AM GMT
    Holy crap. OP is still rockin the Power PC? icon_eek.gif

    I don't think the Mac Pro is worth the money. What sort of things are you doing in Photoshop and Illustrator? Are you working with PSD files with lot and lots of layers or something?
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    Jun 07, 2014 8:40 AM GMT
    Since the OP has waited 8 years since his last purchase he should have saved up a lot of money by now for the new system. I spec'd out a new system for him:

    2.7GHz 12-core with 30MB of L3 cache
    64GB (4x16GB) of 1866MHz DDR3 ECC
    1TB PCIe-based flash storage
    Dual AMD FirePro D700 GPUs with 6GB of GDDR5 VRAM each
    Sharp 32" PN-K321 - 4K Ultra HD LED Monitor

    $13,194.00 (free shipping)

    Photoshop and Illustrator should just fly on that baby.

    Oops, I forgot the keyboard and mouse:

    2.7GHz 12-core with 30MB of L3 cache
    64GB (4x16GB) of 1866MHz DDR3 ECC
    1TB PCIe-based flash storage
    Dual AMD FirePro D700 GPUs with 6GB of GDDR5 VRAM each
    Sharp 32" PN-K321 - 4K Ultra HD LED Monitor
    Magic Trackpad
    Apple Wireless Keyboard - English

    $13,332.00 (free shipping)
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    Jun 07, 2014 5:45 PM GMT
    xrichx saidHoly crap. OP is still rockin the Power PC? icon_eek.gif

    I don't think the Mac Pro is worth the money. What sort of things are you doing in Photoshop and Illustrator? Are you working with PSD files with lot and lots of layers or something?



    I have the Mac Pro Quad Intel. I do also use a Power PC for retouching on an old style monitor because the color is still accurate for retouching. But I'm trying to find the best monitor now for color accuracy.

    With Photoshop and Illustrator I am working with multi- layered files sometimes for large Booth designs. 20 feet x 8 or 10 feet is why.
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    Jun 07, 2014 8:57 PM GMT
    you might look for a color meter so you can calibrate the screen.
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    Jun 07, 2014 11:13 PM GMT
    bradomo said
    xrichx saidHoly crap. OP is still rockin the Power PC? icon_eek.gif

    I don't think the Mac Pro is worth the money. What sort of things are you doing in Photoshop and Illustrator? Are you working with PSD files with lot and lots of layers or something?
    I have the Mac Pro Quad Intel. I do also use a Power PC for retouching on an old style monitor because the color is still accurate for retouching. But I'm trying to find the best monitor now for color accuracy.

    With Photoshop and Illustrator I am working with multi- layered files sometimes for large Booth designs. 20 feet x 8 or 10 feet is why.

    The Mac Pro Quad Intel is the silver tower right? If yes, then just upgrade your video card and get a large Dell IPS panel monitor. Much cheaper than getting an Apple branded monitor. Definitely cheaper than getting a new Mac Pro.
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    Jun 08, 2014 12:24 AM GMT
    Other than a special effects expert using the new mac pro i don't see the point of such a powerful computer...12 cores???
    Looks amazing ofcourse...