Benghazi suspect, Ahmed Abu Khattala, captured, now in U.S. custody

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    Jun 17, 2014 5:17 PM GMT
    Benghazi suspect captured, now in U.S. custody

    In a statement issued by the White House, President Obama said that “with this operation, the United States has once again demonstrated that we will do whatever it takes to see that justice is done when people harm Americans.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-captured-benghazi-suspect-in-secret-raid/2014/06/17/7ef8746e-f5cf-11e3-a3a5-42be35962a52_story.html


    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/17/1307630/-Benghazi-suspect-captured-now-in-U-S-custody
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    Jun 17, 2014 5:25 PM GMT
    Fox News Suggests Obama Captured Benghazi Suspect To Boost Hillary’s Book Tour

    http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/06/17/3449917/fox-news-suggests-obama-captured-benghazi-suspect-to-boost-hillarys-presidential-prospects/
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    Jun 17, 2014 8:53 PM GMT
    Just ROTFLMAO!!!!!

    What a bunch of fucking assholes. I cannot understand why a human would watch that sleaze. It just kills them every time Obama does something right, keep it up Prez. lol
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    Jun 17, 2014 10:19 PM GMT
    1. This is about Clinton’s book tour. It’s hard to know how to respond to such obvious nonsense, but to believe that U.S. Special Forces, the FBI, and the White House hatched a military mission, months in the making, to help a former cabinet official on a book tour seems rather delusional.

    2. This is about the IRS “controversy.” Apparently, capturing terrorists is now part of a plot to distract attention away from a story that evaporated a year ago?

    3. Obama was golfing when the suspect was captured. I’m not sure if the claim is true, but if it is, I’m not sure why anyone should care. The president ordered the mission; American personnel on the ground carried out the mission. Why would anyone care about Obama’s physical location when the suspect was taken away?

    4. Obama should put Ahmed Abu Khattala in Guantanamo. This gem, pushed by Sens. John McCain and Lindsey Graham, argues that the terrorist suspect shouldn’t be tried in courts with a great track record for convicting and imprisoning terrorists. (Wasn’t McCain the guy who, in 2008, said the United States needs to close the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay? Does McCain even remember his own position?) Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Pat Leahy, after hearing about McCain’s and Graham’s appeal, was quoted as saying,”Oh for God’s sake…” which seems like the appropriate reaction.

    5. Obama waited for the “perfect political opportunity.” This line, rolled out by former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.), seems especially bizarre given that it’s easy to think of plenty of other politically opportune moments to capture Abu Khattala. Indeed, there’s nothing particularly interesting or important about right now.

    6. Nothing to see here; move along. Told about the Benghazi attacker’s capture in Libya, one Fox News host said, “Good news there … I guess.” Drudge is pretending this is largely meaningless, too. The moral of the story: ridiculous Benghazi conspiracy theories are huge news, while successful counter-terrorism missions in Benghazi are ho-hum.

    7. This took too long. There’s a lot of “Obama was too slow” commentary this afternoon. Funny, five full years after 9/11, George W. Bush said he didn’t even much care about catching bin Laden – ever. Where were the conservative complaints then? The truth is, these missions abroad aren’t easy and they take time. A win is a win, no matter how long it takes.

    8. Don’t Mirandize! Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) responded to the developments with a statement that read, “Rather than rushing to read him his Miranda rights and telling him he has the right to remain silent, I hope the administration will focus on collecting the intelligence necessary to prevent future attacks and to find other terrorists responsible for the Benghazi attacks.” For the record, Bush/Cheney routinely Mirandized terrorist suspects in U.S. custody, which GOP lawmakers never found troubling until after Jan. 20, 2009.

    9. Only one? House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) issued a statement saying Abu Khatallah is but “one of dozens, if not hundreds of individuals, involved in the murder of four Americans in Benghazi.” Perhaps, though Khatallah is believed to have been a ringleader of the attack, and other suspects are likely to be taken into custody, too.

    10. We could have had Abu Khattala sooner. The accused has been the principal suspect for quite a while, but in reality, a previous mission “postponed because of violent uprisings against the Libyan government.”


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    Jun 17, 2014 11:32 PM GMT
    It sounds like this guy was giving interviews to Western journalists (CNN, Fox News, and NY Times) in the lobbies of hotels... not exactly hiding in caves. I find it terribly convenient that we "found" this guy when the new cycle was dominated by the IRS scandal. Just like I find it terribly convenient that the Bergdahl swap happened when the news cycle was dominated by the VA scandal.
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    Jun 17, 2014 11:35 PM GMT
    Apprehend criminals who harm americans?
    How come Cheney is a free man?
    He's done more harm to Americans then anyone else in the world.

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    Jun 18, 2014 1:43 AM GMT
    Saguaromatic saidIt sounds like this guy was giving interviews to Western journalists (CNN, Fox News, and NY Times) in the lobbies of hotels... not exactly hiding in caves. I find it terribly convenient that we "found" this guy when the new cycle was dominated by the IRS scandal. Just like I find it terribly convenient that the Bergdahl swap happened when the news cycle was dominated by the VA scandal.


    *as conveniently phrased for you by Fox&Friends
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    Jun 18, 2014 3:32 AM GMT
    I wonder if there are any AWOL soldiers we can trade for him.
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    Jun 18, 2014 6:13 AM GMT
    Stop treating war-crazy buffoons as experts! They got it wrong, remember?

    Wolfowitz, Kristol and the rest of the neocons should be pariahs. Instead they're on Sunday show round tables

    http://www.salon.com/2014/06/17/stop_treating_war_crazy_buffoons_as_experts_they_got_it_wrong_remember/
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    Jun 18, 2014 7:17 AM GMT
    Samintown said
    Saguaromatic saidIt sounds like this guy was giving interviews to Western journalists (CNN, Fox News, and NY Times) in the lobbies of hotels... not exactly hiding in caves. I find it terribly convenient that we "found" this guy when the new cycle was dominated by the IRS scandal. Just like I find it terribly convenient that the Bergdahl swap happened when the news cycle was dominated by the VA scandal.


    *as conveniently phrased for you by Fox&Friends


    Samintown- How about you actually try and refute this point rather than go off on some bullshit tangent?
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    Jun 18, 2014 7:24 AM GMT
    metta8 saidStop treating war-crazy buffoons as experts! They got it wrong, remember?

    Wolfowitz, Kristol and the rest of the neocons should be pariahs. Instead they're on Sunday show round tables

    http://www.salon.com/2014/06/17/stop_treating_war_crazy_buffoons_as_experts_they_got_it_wrong_remember/


    And Hillary Clinton? She voted for the war, yet you guys seem to have no problem with her as Secretary of State and probably being your 2016 nominee.
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    Jun 18, 2014 1:10 PM GMT
    Saguaromatic saidIt sounds like this guy was giving interviews to Western journalists (CNN, Fox News, and NY Times) in the lobbies of hotels... not exactly hiding in caves. I find it terribly convenient that we "found" this guy when the new cycle was dominated by the IRS scandal. Just like I find it terribly convenient that the Bergdahl swap happened when the news cycle was dominated by the VA scandal.


    Perhaps, but did Obama really want Benghazi back in the headlines? I'm glad we caught this scumbag, but it has also forced the Administration to admit that what happened at Benghazi was indeed a coordinated terrorist attack, and not a spontaneous event precipitated by that strange YouTube video.

    W/E, at least we got one of the assholes.
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    Jun 18, 2014 3:30 PM GMT
    Metta, you're too smart to act as a conduit for Rachel Maddow. I disagree w/ each of your/her points, and find it entirely credible, based on past misconduct by both Team Clinton and Regime Obama, that this latest capture was, like everything else they do - politically motivated. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this guy comes out w/ some regurgitated statement attributing Benghazi to that video. And Libya can forget about getting him back; Obama/Clinton are holding onto this fall guy with a clenched fist.

    And let's not forget the gay angle: our ambassador was gay but the silence on the gay left - HRC, Lambda, NGLTF, etc. - has been deafening. If he'd died under a GOP admin - and probably even if he'd then risen from the dead - there'd be no end of whining from these Democratic partisans. That they've said nothing says a mouthful.
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    Jun 18, 2014 4:38 PM GMT
    canadian_stud saidApprehend criminals who harm americans?
    How come Cheney is a free man?
    He's done more harm to Americans then anyone else in the world.



    Spot on target! Quite agreed! Rumsfeld and Bush jnr too
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    Jun 18, 2014 4:53 PM GMT
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    Samintown said
    Saguaromatic saidIt sounds like this guy was giving interviews to Western journalists (CNN, Fox News, and NY Times) in the lobbies of hotels... not exactly hiding in caves. I find it terribly convenient that we "found" this guy when the new cycle was dominated by the IRS scandal. Just like I find it terribly convenient that the Bergdahl swap happened when the news cycle was dominated by the VA scandal.


    *as conveniently phrased for you by Fox&Friends


    Samintown- How about you actually try and refute this point rather than go off on some bullshit tangent?


    BULLSHIT TANGENT? Don't you think you guys on a Fox Spin are pushing a bullshit tangent?

    I'm waiting for Fox to ask why this capture was done during the World Cup and after the conclusion of season 4 Game of Thrones?
    FOX FREAKS, don't let us down. Keep up the entertaining conspiracy theories that have made you famous.
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    Jun 18, 2014 4:54 PM GMT
    EVERYTHING EVERY POLITICIAN OF WHATEVER POLITICAL LEANING DOES IS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED TO THEIRS OR THEIR PARTY'S ADVANTAGE.

    The timing is carefully orchestrated because they are well aware of the short attention span of the American people.

    If you think otherwise, you are delusional.
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    Jun 18, 2014 6:04 PM GMT
    Former Top Guantanamo Lawyer Says Don't Send Benghazi Suspect There

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/18/benghazi-guantanamo-bay_n_5507126.html
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    Jun 18, 2014 6:31 PM GMT
    Lindsey Graham and John McCain are like the Abbott and Costello of the Senate - I never liked Abbott and Costello either.

    McCain will say damn near anything and Graham is just a big ole idiot queen.

    If McCain beat Obama we would have been involved in 6 wars by now - he has no problem arming or bombing any nation to forward his sick, twisted vision or the world.
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    Jun 18, 2014 7:26 PM GMT
    Samintown said
    volsfan315 said
    Samintown said
    Saguaromatic saidIt sounds like this guy was giving interviews to Western journalists (CNN, Fox News, and NY Times) in the lobbies of hotels... not exactly hiding in caves. I find it terribly convenient that we "found" this guy when the new cycle was dominated by the IRS scandal. Just like I find it terribly convenient that the Bergdahl swap happened when the news cycle was dominated by the VA scandal.


    *as conveniently phrased for you by Fox&Friends


    Samintown- How about you actually try and refute this point rather than go off on some bullshit tangent?


    BULLSHIT TANGENT? Don't you think you guys on a Fox Spin are pushing a bullshit tangent?

    I'm waiting for Fox to ask why this capture was done during the World Cup and after the conclusion of season 4 Game of Thrones?
    FOX FREAKS, don't let us down. Keep up the entertaining conspiracy theories that have made you famous.




    1. I don't watch TV. There goes your "Fox News conspiracy theory".

    2. Why is it that we "found" him in the middle of this crisis? He had been giving interviews to journalists for years in a number of public places.
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    Jun 18, 2014 7:34 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidLindsey Graham and John McCain are like the Abbott and Costello of the Senate - I never liked Abbott and Costello either.

    McCain will say damn near anything and Graham is just a big ole idiot queen.

    If McCain beat Obama we would have been involved in 6 wars by now - he has no problem arming or bombing any nation to forward his sick, twisted vision or the world.


    Neville Chamberlain kept Britain out of international conflicts until September 1, 1939, but he didn't do his country any favors.
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    Jun 18, 2014 7:53 PM GMT
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    And let's not forget the gay angle: our ambassador was gay but the silence on the gay left - HRC, Lambda, NGLTF, etc. - has been deafening. If he'd died under a GOP admin - and probably even if he'd then risen from the dead - there'd be no end of whining from these Democratic partisans. That they've said nothing says a mouthful.


    Then again, they might just consider that conflating his sexual orientation with his murder or the attack on the Embassy, is pretty stupid.
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    Jun 18, 2014 7:58 PM GMT
    volsfan315 said
    tj85016 saidLindsey Graham and John McCain are like the Abbott and Costello of the Senate - I never liked Abbott and Costello either.

    McCain will say damn near anything and Graham is just a big ole idiot queen.

    If McCain beat Obama we would have been involved in 6 wars by now - he has no problem arming or bombing any nation to forward his sick, twisted vision or the world.


    Neville Chamberlain kept Britain out of international conflicts until September 1, 1939, but he didn't do his country any favors.


    ok, when Iraq, Libya, or Russia invades France, you let me know

    the English invaded more nations than the Huns and Mongols combined
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    Jun 18, 2014 9:41 PM GMT
    One set of whining conservatives quits, another takes its place. How many of them are actually different people? Who knows.
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    Jun 18, 2014 10:16 PM GMT
    showme saidOne set of whining conservatives quits, another takes its place. How many of them are actually different people? Who knows.



    Counting the number of gay Republicans is difficult because many have been dying of shame lately.
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    Jun 18, 2014 10:22 PM GMT
    Not me...

    No one mentioned that this savage is being brought to America and tried in civilian court, instead of in a military tribunal. Presumably, this is a futile effort to prove to savages how civilized we are. Or to make various constituencies feel all tingly at the sound of the name "Obama".