U.S. Patent And Trademark Office Cancels Redskins Trademark

  • metta

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    Jun 18, 2014 2:49 PM GMT
    U.S. Patent And Trademark Office Cancels Redskins Trademark


    http://thinkprogress.org/sports/2014/06/18/3450333/in-landmark-decision-us-patent-office-cancels-trademark-for-redskins-football-team/

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/18/redskins-trademark-canceled_n_5507169.html
  • tj85016

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    Jun 18, 2014 6:35 PM GMT
    lol what bullshit

    I'm offended by the Chicago Blackhwaks, the Notre Dame Fighting Irish and the Florida St Seminoles logos - so I want them banned also
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    Jun 18, 2014 7:30 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidlol what bullshit

    I'm offended by the Chicago Blackhwaks, the Notre Dame Fighting Irish and the Florida St Seminoles logos - so I want them banned also

    Redskins is today an insulting racial slur, dating back to the prejudices of the first European White settlers to North America. A name like Seminoles, however, is the official tribal name, which the tribal members call themselves.

    I think indigenous groups have a right to control what other people call them, and to object to slang that carries negative & demeaning overtones, and stereotypes. Who gave my European ancestors the right to rename the native population? And that some of us now claim is our modern day right to continue using those words, when the tribal nations oppose them.
  • tj85016

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    Jun 18, 2014 7:51 PM GMT
    ^^

    oh right, this isn't offensive, looks like a friggn angry Japanese kabuki actor

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    Jun 18, 2014 8:27 PM GMT
    tj85016 said^^

    oh right, this isn't offensive, looks like a friggn angry Japanese kabuki actor

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    Ask the native Seminoles, not me. Their privilege, not mine or yours. When the Seminoles no longer want that image they'll say so. Their heritage, not mine.

    But the problem for the Washington Redskins team is that Native American peoples all over the US object to the term redskin. There was a similar conflict with continued use of the term "Fighting Sioux" for the University of North Dakota (UND) teams, especially their top-ranked hockey program, using a logo very similar to the one you post here.

    Among the issues were the word Sioux itself, not truly a native term. Early French fur trappers had altered & shortened a longer native word, used more commonly near Ottawa by the Ojibwa. But in the Dakotas the preferred native words were Dakota, and Lakota. Think of the movie Dances With Wolves.

    Nor do many "Sioux" feel comfortable with their portrayal as "fighting." They were actually relatively peaceful tribes, not perpetually warlike, and only fought as the need arose. I spent time at their reservation schools, encouraging them to come to UND. Lovely & generous people, nothing like the negative Indian stereotypes from the movie Westerns.

    And BTW, North Dakota voters ended the Fighting Sioux name & logo in 2012. A new school sports logo cannot be chosen until 2015. So there is precedent for this, though at the college level.
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    Jun 18, 2014 10:37 PM GMT
    NorthwestBoy1980 saidThe government getting into deciding what is and is not offensive is very dangerous. Wait until the Republicans get total control and they decide "gay" is offensive so they outlaw use of the term "gay" in commerce. The government should stay out of this.


    You must see the Republicans as being quite intolerant.
    I think you're right.
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    Jun 18, 2014 11:36 PM GMT
    Samintown said
    NorthwestBoy1980 saidThe government getting into deciding what is and is not offensive is very dangerous. Wait until the Republicans get total control and they decide "gay" is offensive so they outlaw use of the term "gay" in commerce. The government should stay out of this.

    You must see the Republicans as being quite intolerant.
    I think you're right.

    Yes, we will definitely see more anti-gay hatred from Republicans if they enjoy election gains in 2014. We've already seen laws like those in Tennessee that attempt to make speaking the word "gay" illegal in schools. Strange, I didn't hear a lot of protest about that from our RJ Right Wingers here.

    But in the case of the North Dakota example I cited that was a voter referendum. Heavily back by the native tribes, not the State government, nor imposed by the State or any of its agencies. And in the case of the US Patent & Trademark Office, use of the trademark "Redskins" fails to pass already existing standards.

    The ones who prompted this review are also Native Americans, as in North Dakota, not a spontaneous action by the government. And a required response to violations of public policy and law.
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    Jun 19, 2014 1:48 AM GMT
    The US Patent and Trademark Office did the same thing in 1999. It was overturned on appeal. The current trademark stands until the inevitable appeal works its way thru the courts.

    Note: The Florida State Seminoles and Utah Utes received permission from the Nations to use their names.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/washington-redskins-lose-trademark-protection-what-does-that-mean-061814
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    Jun 19, 2014 2:41 AM GMT
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