What to Call the Game: Football or Socker?

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    Jun 19, 2014 3:35 AM GMT
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    A New York Times article from Oct. 22, 1905, used the term “Socker” in the headline.

    NYT: “It seems a thousand pities that in reporting Association football matches The New York Times, in company with all the other newspapers, should persistently call the game ‘socker,’ ” the writer, one Francis H. Tabor, said in The Times. “In the first place, there is no such word, and in the second place, it is an exceedingly ugly and undignified one.” That was in 1905, and it was proof that the perennial debate on the topic of “What is America’s problem?” began not in this World Cup, or in the one before that, but a full quarter of a century before there was such thing as a World Cup. Ranting irritably about American usage — only to have Americans rant right back — turns out to be almost as popular a sport as soccer (or football) itself.

    The latest analysis of this issue came in a much commented-upon academic paper published recently by Stefan Szymanski, an economist who is a professor of sport management at the University of Michigan and the co-author of “Soccernomics.” In his analysis, Szymanski points out that the word soccer actually began in Britain and continued to be used there happily — right alongside “football” — until at least the 1970s, when a surge of bad temper and anti-Americanism made it virtually radioactive.

    But while the two terms were apparently coexisting harmoniously abroad, the opposite was happening in America. By the early 20th century, of course, the United States already had its own kind of football, called “football.” This is a sport, foreigners like to point out, that mostly involves people doing things to the ball with their hands. But never mind that right now.

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    Jun 19, 2014 3:44 AM GMT
    It's football. Everyone (except US Americans) know it.
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    Jun 19, 2014 3:46 AM GMT
    It's soccer...... Football is another game, where you can hold the ball.
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    Jun 19, 2014 3:48 AM GMT
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    Jun 19, 2014 3:48 AM GMT
    Socker? What a shocker.
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    Jun 19, 2014 3:49 AM GMT
    It was historically used interchangeably until people held anti-American views and refused to call the game "socker." In fact, there were two types of football in England, which developed both, one being "association football" and the other "rugby football." Association football became "socker" and rugby football became "rugger."

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    Jun 19, 2014 3:50 AM GMT
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    Jun 19, 2014 3:51 AM GMT
    Decadence_of_Art saidIt's socker...... Football is another game, where you can hold the ball.

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    Jun 19, 2014 3:53 AM GMT
    American Football( also known as Gridiron) and football aren't the same thing. Never go full retard.
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    Jun 19, 2014 3:55 AM GMT
    It's still soccer, and AFL is football.
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    Jun 19, 2014 3:56 AM GMT
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    A letter from Dec. 4, 1905, criticized the use of the word "socker" in The New York Times.

    The term "socker" was coined by football teams at Oxford and Cambridge back in the day.
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    Jun 19, 2014 3:57 AM GMT
    Decadence_of_Art saidIt's still socker, and AFL is football.

    In USA? Yes. In the rest of the world where it counts is and will always be Football.
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    Jun 19, 2014 3:58 AM GMT
    Why do non-US Americans feel so special because they do things differently to the US? Who cares. People argue over the dumbest shit ever. More proof that sports fans ( not jocks) have no life.
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    Jun 19, 2014 4:01 AM GMT
    Who cares about the name?
    Which is the better game...? icon_cool.gif
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    Jun 19, 2014 4:03 AM GMT
    If measured by population that follows it, football is a better game since 46.4% of the world follows it.
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    Jun 19, 2014 4:08 AM GMT
    For the retards here, there are different forms of football.


    Gaelic football

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaelic_football

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    Canadian football

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_football

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    Australian rules football

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_rules_football

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    Jun 19, 2014 4:21 AM GMT
    Panthers saidWho cares about the name?
    Which is the better game...? icon_cool.gif

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    Jun 19, 2014 4:45 AM GMT
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    Decadence_of_Art saidIt's still socker, and AFL is football.

    In USA? Yes. In the rest of the world where it counts is and will always be Football.


    Mate I'm talking Australia, where it is Socker, and they play with a round sockerball.
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    Jun 19, 2014 4:47 AM GMT
    Panthers saidWho cares about the name?
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    AFL; Aussie Rules Football.

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    Jun 19, 2014 5:03 AM GMT
    Decadence_of_Art said
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    Decadence_of_Art saidIt's still socker, and AFL is football.

    In USA? Yes. In the rest of the world where it counts is and will always be Football.


    Mate I'm talking Australia, where it is Socker, and they play with a round sockerball.

    No wonder Australia has been the 1rst team to get out of the FIFA World Cup icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 19, 2014 5:04 AM GMT
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    Decadence_of_Art said
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    Decadence_of_Art saidIt's still socker, and AFL is football.

    In USA? Yes. In the rest of the world where it counts is and will always be Football.


    Mate I'm talking Australia, where it is Socker, and they play with a round sockerball.

    No wonder you were the 1rst to get out of the FIFA World Cup icon_lol.gif


    Just like Uruguay. icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 19, 2014 5:05 AM GMT
    David3K said
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    Decadence_of_Art saidIt's still socker, and AFL is football.

    In USA? Yes. In the rest of the world where it counts is and will always be Football.


    Mate I'm talking Australia, where it is Socker, and they play with a round sockerball.

    No wonder you were the 1rst to get out of the FIFA World Cup icon_lol.gif


    Mate I predicted this before it even started, as it's just not football, and the US is not the only country to call this sport Socker.
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    Jun 19, 2014 5:07 AM GMT
    Some people have no idea what they're talking about, yet they keep on talking.
    So far there are 3 teams out of the World Cup. In order:
    - Australia
    - Spain
    - Cameroon

    The remaining 29 teams still have chances to be champions.
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    Jun 19, 2014 5:08 AM GMT
    Decadence_of_Art said
    David3K said
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    Decadence_of_Art saidIt's still socker, and AFL is football.

    In USA? Yes. In the rest of the world where it counts is and will always be Football.


    Mate I'm talking Australia, where it is Socker, and they play with a round sockerball.

    No wonder you were the 1rst to get out of the FIFA World Cup icon_lol.gif

    Mate I predicted this before it even started, as it's just not football, and the US is not the only country to call this sport Socker.

    Keep telling that to yourself icon_lol.gif
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    Jun 19, 2014 5:11 AM GMT
    David3K said
    Decadence_of_Art said
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    Decadence_of_Art saidIt's still socker, and AFL is football.

    In USA? Yes. In the rest of the world where it counts is and will always be Football.


    Mate I'm talking Australia, where it is Socker, and they play with a round sockerball.

    No wonder you were the 1rst to get out of the FIFA World Cup icon_lol.gif

    Mate I predicted this before it even started, as it's just not football, and the US is not the only country to call this sport Socker.

    Keep telling that to yourself icon_lol.gif


    Just asked another aussie around me, and their reply was socker. Thus others are also telling me it's sockericon_wink.gif