HBO Airs Documentary, "The Case Against 8" on Monday - Not to be Missed -Won Sundance Documentary Award

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    Jun 21, 2014 2:22 AM GMT
    Just saw HBO's documentary about the legal fight to overturn California's anti-gay Proposition 8 - from before filing the case in federal court in California through the Supreme Court's decision upholding the invalidation of the law, and the subsequent marriages of the two plaintiff couples. The film-makers had extraordinary access to the legal team from day 1, and the film includes how they chose the ideal plaintiffs, legal strategy sessions, excerpts from arguments made in the courts, and the daily lives of the 2 women and 2 men who sued and ultimately married. Shown in a theater as part of the SF Gay Film Festival, the co-directors and participants got a 5-minute standing ovation. Don't miss seeing it on HBO.
    http://thecaseagainst8.com/
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    Jun 22, 2014 8:17 AM GMT
    Maybe it's because I am a Aussie, but prop8 was a referendum, a vote put to the people of CA do they support same sex marriage or not?

    The majority of people of CA were to vote no, and that should be end of story, until they hold another referendum. Not saying I agree; but it was the will of the majority. I would rather this than dissension made by a few, because that starts to become a dictatorship, and not the wish of the people; a democracy.

    I accept the same about Australia becoming a republic. In 1999 the people of Oz said no to a republic, and gave their vote to HM Queen Elizabeth II to remain our Head of State. But of course there were people not happy with this decision, and they did not get their way, thus they do not want to hear the wish of the people, until they hear what they want to.
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    Jun 22, 2014 10:07 AM GMT
    Decadence_of_Art saidMaybe it's because I am a Aussie, but prop8 was a referendum, a vote put to the people of CA do they support same sex marriage or not?

    The majority of people of CA were to vote no, and that should be end of story, until they hold another referendum. ....


    No. That is not correct. California referenda and initiatives are complicated creatures, and just because the people voted one way or the other does not necessarily mean that they should become operative; hence, the courts often are necessary to get involved to try to straighten out the mess.

    In the case of Proposition 8 there was also another extraneous factor -- the Mormon Church hierarchy (Utah) poured a lot of political money into disingenuous or worse advertising which distorted the issue of the vote. Thus, it is not at all clear that the vote on Prop. 8 actually was an accurate reflection of the way Californians felt about same-sex marriage.
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    Jun 22, 2014 12:19 PM GMT
    Decadence_of_Art saidMaybe it's because I am a Aussie, but prop8 was a referendum, a vote put to the people of CA do they support same sex marriage or not?

    The majority of people of CA were to vote no, and that should be end of story, until they hold another referendum. Not saying I agree; but it was the will of the majority. I would rather this than dissension made by a few, because that starts to become a dictatorship, and not the wish of the people; a democracy.

    I accept the same about Australia becoming a republic. In 1999 the people of Oz said no to a republic, and gave their vote to HM Queen Elizabeth II to remain our Head of State. But of course there were people not happy with this decision, and they did not get their way, thus they do not want to hear the wish of the people, until they hear what they want to.
    With that logic, then gays should be tortured and killed, because 20 years ago that would have been the will of the "majority" of people.