Bisexual men ‘at most risk’ from HIV, STDs

  • metta

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    Jun 23, 2014 4:26 PM GMT
    Bisexual men ‘at most risk’ from HIV, STDs

    In the US last year, 21% of bisexual men reported STD treatment compared to 12% for gay men and 2.3% of straight men


    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/bisexual-men-most-risk-hiv-stds230614
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    Jun 23, 2014 5:43 PM GMT
    the gayz are probably more aware of STDS/AIDS & the use of condoms.

    bc the gayz have been more exposed to it.

    most of us had at least one friend who's got it or know one person who died of AIDS.

    maybe bisexuals think that bc they still like gals they'll never get it?

    'hey i'm not not liek totes gay so i'm safe right?'

    bisexuals don't even wear condoms unless they're doing it w/ their gf. & that's just not to get them pregnint.
  • SuntoryTime

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    Jun 23, 2014 8:14 PM GMT
    patito saidthe gayz are probably more aware of STDS/AIDS & the use of condoms.

    bc the gayz have been more exposed to it.

    most of us had at least one friend who's got it or know one person who died of AIDS.

    maybe bisexuals think that bc they still like gals they'll never get it?

    'hey i'm not not liek totes gay so i'm safe right?'

    bisexuals don't even wear condoms unless they're doing it w/ their gf. & that's just not to get them pregnint.


    Whoa. This post is assuming A LOT.
  • bladeaddict

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    Jun 23, 2014 8:20 PM GMT
    My theory is that this is - to a large degree - about the closet. Closeted bisexual men are far less likely to get tested, and if they do get an std, it is difficult for them to get treatment without exposing their hidden activities, which likely discourages a lot of men from taking action. If you are married (for example) and your wife is on the pill, you can't use a condom or she'll wonder why. If you try to talk to your doctor about std's, you don't know if he or she might say something to your spouse. It's difficult to even find out what the privacy laws of your state are in that regard, because simply asking about that makes people suspicious of you. If you are hiding, or even if you just don't trust straight society (or, in some cases, gay society) to respect you, then you don't have anywhere to talk honestly about std's, get tested, and get treatment without feeling exposed.

    Please know I am not advocating for being in or staying in the closet, which is a whole different discussion. Without going into my entire story I'll just say that the closet is where I am for the foreseeable future, and I am not alone. I bring this up because whatever anyone's opinion of closeted bisexuals is, the fact is that we are here and in this situation.

    I've managed to navigate this fairly well myself, and I'm super careful. But more than once I've found myself in very uncomfortable situations. I have never exposed anyone to anything, but I've careful as I was, I've caught a couple minor std's that I've had to deal with in secret. That is not easy. Doctors, testing, getting a prescription filled - all of these are not really as private as you might think. And if you are married, forget about trying to use your insurance ...

    For several years in Los Angeles there was a clinic that catered to actors in the porn industry (male, female, all sexualities) and they also accepted clients who were not in that industry. This was perfect while it lasted: The staff was welcoming, friendly, nonjudgmental and privacy was extremely well accommodated. The doctors and nurses were very good, and their specialty was sexual health. Ironically, it was an AIDS activist group that got them shut down, as part of a bigger political crusade to pass a law requiring condom use in all porn shoots. Now those actors - and people like me - are on our own, and it is not simple. Just paying for a panel of tests becomes an issue, for example, because for the most discrete testing services you have to register online and pay with a credit card, then print out a form and take it to the blood draw center. This is a problem - potentially a deal breaker - for someone who doesn't want to get caught.

    There are similar roadblocks to be navigated in almost every aspect of testing and treatment.

    I'm sure that culture & community play a role in this as well, as 'patito' said above. If you are gay and out and have friends who are the same, HIV is still a big topic. It is not that way in the straight world, which is where closeted folks hide.
  • Vaughn

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    Jun 23, 2014 9:16 PM GMT
    Those sort of statistics tend to have a bad sampling bias. A few years back WHO did a study and found as large as a 50% error variance on studies done on the gay population. Homosexuality is an implicit variable and relies on self report. Being able to get at that information also relies on a number of extraneous factors.
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    Jun 23, 2014 10:44 PM GMT
    SuntoryTime said

    Whoa. This post is assuming A LOT.


    not really, it's just my experience.

    which is obv. more reliable than any shitty statistics anyway
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    Jun 23, 2014 10:58 PM GMT
    patito saidthe gayz are probably more aware of STDS/AIDS & the use of condoms.

    bc the gayz have been more exposed to it.

    most of us had at least one friend who's got it or know one person who died of AIDS.

    maybe bisexuals think that bc they still like gals they'll never get it?

    'hey i'm not not liek totes gay so i'm safe right?'

    bisexuals don't even wear condoms unless they're doing it w/ their gf. & that's just not to get them pregnint.


    But HIV/AIDS has been around for sometime now, and it's a long time since it was promoted to be something that only infects us gays.
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    Jun 23, 2014 11:00 PM GMT
    bladeaddict said If you are married (for example) and your wife is on the pill, you can't use a condom or she'll wonder why


    & actually now it's like pretty much every girl on the planet (except those from Afghanistan & Ethiopia) take those nasty pills that mess up with your entire system.

    bc most of them are completely incapable of demanding their partner/bf/hookup to wear a fckn condom.

    and so they never ever wear condoms anymore.
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    Jun 23, 2014 11:09 PM GMT
    Decadence_of_Art said

    But HIV/AIDS has been around for sometime now, and it's a long time since it was promoted to be something that only infects us gays.


    i'm pretty sure that anyone who's had a decent education & reads the newspaper at least once a week knows that.

    but there's still A LOT of people that think that it's just 4 the gays and prostitudes.
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    Jun 24, 2014 12:05 AM GMT
    Vaughn saidThose sort of statistics tend to have a bad sampling bias. A few years back WHO did a study and found as large as a 50% error variance on studies done on the gay population. Homosexuality is an implicit variable and relies on self report. Being able to get at that information also relies on a number of extraneous factors.


    I tend to question any study done on bisexual males with a statistics-based result. It's really difficult to get an accurate sample size because it's nearly impossible to predict how many bisexual males there are. They've speculated it's only about 22% that are out, but that isn't likely to mean anything. How can you predict closeted bi males in a population sample if so many of them would not even acknowledge that kind of study?

    There are also issues over who will self-identify as bi, and who will have that label placed on them based on their sexual activity. Some people refuse to adopt the label because they don't feel it fits them. Some people just don't like the stigma (which is a horrible reason to refuse the label if you ask me, but to each their own). So do you include those people, who just don't adopt a label? Are pansexuals included? Polyamourous unions? People who occasionally have threesomes?
  • buddycat

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    Jun 24, 2014 12:21 AM GMT
    Bisexuals are said to be the most sexual active. I would believe it. I know I have had them say that men are 'easier' and like to just have sex with them. With gay men in general there is a lot more to it than just sex. That is plainly evident in some of the posts in the "dating and relationship" section.
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    Jun 24, 2014 2:23 AM GMT
    Lmao! The generalizing is strong in this thread. It always is when bisexuality comes up on RJ.
  • theob

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    Jun 24, 2014 2:46 AM GMT
    I agree that there's a lot of generalizing going on w/regards to bisexuals. If some of you are so sure of what you're saying, then please provide concrete statistical evidence that this is the case.

    If bisexual men are more closeted, where's the study showing it?

    If bisexual men are more sexually active, do you have the research to back it up?

    Until then, it's okay to know that it's more risky to have sex with someone who self-reports as bisexual. Wrap it up more around them. Just realize knowing that something is the case is quite different from knowing why something is the case.
  • buddycat

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    Jun 24, 2014 2:55 AM GMT
    icon_lol.gif These stereotypes seem to be all over the Internet regarding bisexuals and looks like I am guilty of telling the lies about bisexuals many do. Perhaps the rise in STD and HIV infection has to do with education and condom usage?
  • Joeyphx444

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    Jun 24, 2014 5:51 AM GMT
    To say gays are managing and more aware of STD and HIV than bisexuals is extremely egocentric. Those numbers could mean that bisexuals are actually going out and getting tested and a lot of gay men may not be. Doesn't mean gays have less numbers of STDS.

    True bisexuals do not just fuck around with everything they see. When they pick a mate, they are monogamous but outside of that they are just as promiscuous as gay/straight men and gay/striaght women
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    Jun 25, 2014 9:35 AM GMT
    go_dreaming saidLmao! The generalizing is strong in this thread. It always is when bisexuality comes up on RJ.


    There is a lot of confusion concerning being and bisexuals.
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    Jun 25, 2014 1:00 PM GMT
    "The Bi Community"

    Yeah, aight.
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    Jun 26, 2014 4:23 AM GMT
    Ugh, obviously, the pool of infected sexual partners are a combination of male AND females, the chances of contracting HIV and STDs are obviously higher.
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    Jun 26, 2014 10:03 AM GMT
    Jack_NNJ said"The Bi Community"

    Yeah, aight.


    They have their own pride flag, yet so many do not want to stand under it, and support their own community; they act as if it's something shameful.
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    Jun 26, 2014 12:49 PM GMT
    Decadence_of_Art said
    Jack_NNJ said"The Bi Community"

    Yeah, aight.


    They have their own pride flag, yet so many do not want to stand under it, and support their own community; they act as if it's something shameful.


    Which is no different from men who have sex with men on the down-low, but consider themselves to be straight.
  • metta

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    Jun 27, 2014 12:41 AM GMT
    STUDY: Biphobia Puts Bisexual Men at Risk for STIs

    Biphobia is keeping bisexual men from getting tested and from coming out as bisexual, says a new report from the CDC.


    “Societal biphobia — negative attitudes and behaviors toward bisexual individuals — is more prevalent than antigay sentiment,"

    http://www.advocate.com/bisexuality/2014/06/26/study-biphobia-puts-bisexual-men-risk-stis
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    Jun 27, 2014 8:37 PM GMT
    Biphobia sounds gay.
  • ramblerman

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    Jun 28, 2014 5:22 AM GMT
    Soooo where are the bisexuals getting the STDs then.
    This study is using estimated numbers for how many bimales are out there (underestimating) and assuming they are mostly black.
    I think this is someone that had a grant to do a study and needed to generate numbers that would fit an agenda. By not using real facts someone cannot make a true statement.
    YES everyone gay straight bi trans... needs to be safe because 35.3% of males have reported STD treatment in a case study involving ____# of men in ____ geographic region. It is unknown how many others may have STDs that don't know, don't care, or are not getting treatment. So you should always play safe and get tested and treated if you are sexually active. STDs don't discriminate race, creed, or sexual orientation.

  • BloodFlame

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    Jun 28, 2014 8:23 AM GMT
    Eh.. I think that's a little generalizing to say but with the all the stereotypes that float around about bisexual men/women being more sexual active, I can see why people would automatically assume that.

    Regardless, it just means that whether someone is gay, bi, or straight, just engage in protective sex if you plan to experiment with a string of people because it's better to be safe than sorry.
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    Jun 30, 2014 9:53 PM GMT
    I am so glad to see the majority responding in this thread are being vocal regarding the generalizations being made about Bisexuals.

    People are people are people. One's sexual identity has absolutely ZERO to do with whether or not someone is promiscuous, or not. Monogamous, Open, Poly, a Cheater, etc. These all are different things that are solely on a per individual basis.