Obama signs LGBT nondiscrimination executive order(s) Monday morning 7/21/2014 (view signature)

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    Jun 25, 2014 9:15 PM GMT
    Let me guess, anything to do with advancing gays icon_rolleyes.gif

    Well, why didn't he take up the house vote on ENDA then? Somebodys ego hurt? We as tax payers have to pay for this? I don't think so.... well then, maybe Obama should reverse GW Bush 2001 amendment to EO 11246 to protect faith base community?

    This alcoholic with dementia needs to go, much like his entire party of NO

    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/boehner-confirms-lawsuit-against-obama-executive-actions-n140701
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    Jun 25, 2014 9:25 PM GMT
    This was hilarious, just yesterday, bone head was making fake nice with Democrats and today he wants to sue the president for doing his job, part of which are executive orders. Is Boehner part schizophrenic?

    Bone head looks like hes about to drop a turd and McConell has that deer in the headlight look,
    they hate each other, quickly pass the hand sanitizer icon_lol.gif

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    Jun 25, 2014 9:42 PM GMT
    Pathetic, costing the tax payer, useless - any other descriptions come to mind?

    I thought the GOP opposed frivolous lawsuits? But I suppose it's as good a way as any to distract everyone from noticing Boehner's complete absence of any ideas that deal with actual problems.
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    Jun 25, 2014 9:54 PM GMT
    tazzari saidPathetic, costing the tax payer, useless - any other descriptions come to mind?

    I thought the GOP opposed frivolous lawsuits? But I suppose it's as good a way as any to distract everyone from noticing Boehner's complete absence of any ideas that deal with actual problems.


    ^This is bone heads entire reason for not allowing the house vote on ENDA! So I do think the presidents announcement to sign the lgbt executive order has much to do with this childish lawsuit play. The reason the president announced it earlier, was to give bone head and his cronies a chance to bring the vote to the house before he signs the order. I guess we just got bone heads response
    can you say ego driven power struggle icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 25, 2014 10:11 PM GMT
    NorthwestBoy1980 saidThe Democrats had major problems when Bush signed executive orders. When it's their guy, no problem.


    Did they do what Boehner's doing?
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    Jun 25, 2014 10:19 PM GMT
    NorthwestBoy1980 saidThe Democrats had major problems when Bush signed executive orders. When it's their guy, no problem.



    Republicans are trying to convince their stupid base that executive orders are some how illegal. Every president has done them, its part of their job. GW Bush, in 2001, was the last president to amend the same executive order to protect his faith base community in federal employment, were the Democrats up n arms about that? GW Bush signed that amendment without any fanfare or attention to it, sort of under the table, but he was allowed to do that, just nobody paid attention at that time.

    Did the Republicans try to bring a vote in congress to pass federal employment protections for faith base community and the Democrats refused to vote on it? I don't think so, GW Bush just did, because he could.
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    Jun 25, 2014 10:21 PM GMT
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    NorthwestBoy1980 saidThe Democrats had major problems when Bush signed executive orders. When it's their guy, no problem.


    Did they do what Boehner's doing?


    And Boehner's not going to do what Boehner's "doing", either. You must have "standing" to sue someone (prove that you, personally, have been injured or harmed). Yes, there is such a thing as "congressional standing", but the standard is the same: The group representing Congress must show that members of that group have been "personally" injured or harmed. And that they cannot do, and SCOTUS has severely restricted "congressional standing" before. As ironic as it sounds, the President of the United States cannot be "sued" (in a court of law) for "merely" not "faithfully executing the laws of the United States."

    And everyone involved in this farce knows it, and the press should be reporting it that way.
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    Jun 25, 2014 10:27 PM GMT
    NorthwestBoy1980 said
    scruffLA said
    NorthwestBoy1980 saidThe Democrats had major problems when Bush signed executive orders. When it's their guy, no problem.



    Republicans are trying to convince their stupid base


    I stopped reading at that part. You've got nothing intelligent to say.



    Well, you have the blind following just the lying blind icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jun 25, 2014 10:35 PM GMT
    Oh, Boehner, and while we're at it, get out of this one:

    "The President...shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment."

    ARTICLE II, SECTION 2, CLAUSE 1, CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES

    So, he could pardon himself, anyway. "Miss" that bit while you were boozin and smokin did ya, John??
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    Jun 25, 2014 10:35 PM GMT
    NorthwestBoy1980 said
    scruffLA said
    NorthwestBoy1980 said
    scruffLA said
    NorthwestBoy1980 saidThe Democrats had major problems when Bush signed executive orders. When it's their guy, no problem.



    Republicans are trying to convince their stupid base


    I stopped reading at that part. You've got nothing intelligent to say.



    Well, you have the blind following just the lying blind icon_rolleyes.gif



    Most of the people on this site fit that description. All pro-Obama, anti-Republican, all the time.




    He didn't need congressional approval either, hes a criminal icon_rolleyes.gif

    Executive Orders
    Subject Index for George W. Bush - 2001-Present
    http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/wbush-subjects.html

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    Jun 25, 2014 10:55 PM GMT
    both of these mediocre clowns need to go, both are prime examples of the Peter Principle at work
  • ChicagoSteve

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    Jun 26, 2014 1:06 AM GMT
    This thread made me think of comedian George Carlin and my favorite standup performance of his . This guy was brilliant and his words were so true! Especially about the politicians, RIP George.

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    Jun 26, 2014 2:16 AM GMT
    ChicagoSteve saidThis thread made me think of comedian George Carlin and my favorite standup performance of his . This guy was brilliant and his words were so true! Especially about the politicians, RIP George.






    +1

    The only way George got away with telling the truth like this, and many other times, was to do it as comedy act, that way most wouldn't take it seriously and really think about what he said, revealing "the man behind the curtain" has gotten a lot of celebrities in trouble and sometimes early deaths, thus the conspiracy theories. He is right on though, if you look beyond the comedy. Too many people know the truth now, the curtain is up. icon_idea.gif


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    Jun 26, 2014 6:19 AM GMT
    OMG. Faux News actually has a point with a Tea Turd icon_eek.gif


    Neil Cavuto Has Had It With Michele Bachmann
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    That bitch again, talkin out her ass, we all had it with them, I like her spin that includes "all of America", not icon_lol.gif

    Cavuto brushed off the suggestion, saying "Democrats would be in their right mind to laugh you out right now." icon_lol.gif

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    Jul 04, 2014 6:56 AM GMT
    scruffLA said
    NorthwestBoy1980 said
    scruffLA said
    NorthwestBoy1980 said
    scruffLA said
    NorthwestBoy1980 saidThe Democrats had major problems when Bush signed executive orders. When it's their guy, no problem.



    Republicans are trying to convince their stupid base


    I stopped reading at that part. You've got nothing intelligent to say.



    Well, you have the blind following just the lying blind icon_rolleyes.gif



    Most of the people on this site fit that description. All pro-Obama, anti-Republican, all the time.




    He didn't need congressional approval either, hes a criminal icon_rolleyes.gif

    Executive Orders
    Subject Index for George W. Bush - 2001-Present
    http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/wbush-subjects.html




    The "religious exemption", E.O. 13279, that GW Bush amended EO 11246, has been added to the FAR 52,
    subpart Subpart 22.8—Equal Employment Opportunity

    It states:

    22.807 Exemptions.

    (7) Contracts with religious entities. Pursuant to E.O. 13279, Section 202 of E.O. 11246, shall not apply to a Government contractor or subcontractor that is a religious corporation, association, educational institution, or society, with respect to the employment of individuals of a particular religion to perform work connected with the carrying on by such corporation, association, educational institution, or society of its activities. Such contractors and subcontractors are not exempted or excused from complying with the other requirements contained in the order.
    (c) To request an exemption under paragraph (a)(2) or (b)(5) of this section, the contracting officer shall submit, under agency procedures, a detailed justification for omitting all, or part of, the requirements of E.O. 11246. Requests for exemptions under paragraph (a)(2) or (b)(5) of this section shall be submitted to the Deputy Assistant Secretary for approval.
    (d) The Deputy Assistant Secretary may withdraw the exemption for a specific contract, or group of contracts, if the Deputy Assistant Secretary deems that such action is necessary and appropriate to achieve the purposes of E.O. 11246. Such withdrawal shall not apply—
    (1) To contracts awarded before the withdrawal; or
    (2) To any sealed bid contract (including restricted sealed bidding), unless the withdrawal is made more than 10 days before the bid opening date.

    Executive Order 13279 - Equal Protection of the Laws for Faith-Based and Community Organizations
    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=61375[/quote]

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    Jul 04, 2014 7:16 AM GMT
    ^^^^
    I believe this is all the right wing is going to get, LGBT EO is ready for signing icon_biggrin.gif


    I will re-iterate the importance of enforcement of the new EO, direct discrimination complaints to:
    The Office Of Contract Compliance



    22.808 Complaints.

    Complaints received by the contracting officer alleging violation of the requirements of E.O. 11246 shall be referred immediately to the OFCCP regional office. The complainant shall be advised in writing of the referral. The contractor that is the subject of a complaint shall not be advised in any manner or for any reason of the complainant’s name, the nature of the complaint, or the fact that the complaint was received.
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    Jul 09, 2014 4:01 AM GMT
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    Faith Leaders Sign Letter Opposing Religious Exemption For LGBT Hiring Non-Discrimination
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/08/religious-exemption-lgbt-discrimination_n_5567510.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

    More than one hundred faith leaders sent a letter to President Obama on Tuesday, 7/8/14, asking that he remove a religious exemption from his upcoming executive order banning hiring discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity among federal contractors.

    The letter arrived at the White House exactly a week after 14 faith leaders -- including several of the president's close advisors -- delivered a letter urging Obama to include the debated exemption.
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    Jul 09, 2014 4:55 AM GMT
    ^^^^
    The only way this religious exemption would not be included is if Obama, rescinded GW Bush EO 13279, otherwise it has to stay, regardless of the new petition to remove it, federal contract language and the EO's/FAR's that pertain to them, is very specific.

    Slippery slope indeed, I say rescind it then, and give private company Hobby Snobby, and others like it, a lesson, send a message that the federal government will not tolerate such ignorant, willful, blatant discrimination loopholes. icon_neutral.gif


    Removing the Bush order is the key to ENDA moving forward as well, no doubt republicans will still block a vote


    Executive Order 13279 - Equal Protection of the Laws for Faith-Based and Community Organizations
    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=61375
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    Jul 09, 2014 5:32 AM GMT
    illegal alien children by the thousands coming across the border through smugglers is the Bush/Obama plan
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    Jul 10, 2014 4:33 PM GMT

    religious exemptions in employment protections:

    Three Reasons LGBT Groups Are Fighting Over A Bill That Isn’t Going To Become Law
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/three-reasons-lgbt-groups-are-fighting-over-a-bill-that-isnt


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    Jul 11, 2014 3:22 PM GMT
    scruffLA saidOMG. Faux News actually has a point with a Tea Turd icon_eek.gif


    Neil Cavuto Has Had It With Michele Bachmann
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/25/neil-cavuto-michele-bachmann_n_5531279.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592



    That bitch again, talkin out her ass, we all had it with them, I like her spin that includes "all of America", not icon_lol.gif

    Cavuto brushed off the suggestion, saying "Democrats would be in their right mind to laugh you out right now." icon_lol.gif




    The FOX Republican strategists rightly see the disaster ahead if they allow Bachmann and the Know-Nothings to carry on.

    But it's FOX's own damn fault. They fed them misinformation and now are repulsed that their true believers want to act on that misinformation.
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    Jul 11, 2014 3:41 PM GMT
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    Faith Leaders Sign Letter Opposing Religious Exemption For LGBT Hiring Non-Discrimination
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/08/religious-exemption-lgbt-discrimination_n_5567510.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

    More than one hundred faith leaders sent a letter to President Obama on Tuesday, 7/8/14, asking that he remove a religious exemption from his upcoming executive order banning hiring discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity among federal contractors.

    The letter arrived at the White House exactly a week after 14 faith leaders -- including several of the president's close advisors -- delivered a letter urging Obama to include the debated exemption.


    I wish this wasn't surprising. There are a significant number of people of faith who believe very strongly in the separation of church and state, and who do not want to see religion used as an excuse for discrimination.

    Members of my denomination just participated in an educational campaign to help defeat one of these "religious freedom" bills in Oregon. The bishops of Kansas spoke out publicly about the similar bill in that state, which was also defeated.

    The Executive Director of the organization, whose board I'm on, just published this statement about the EO:

    http://www.believeoutloud.com/latest/how-employment-discrimination-affects-my-life

    She is herself a transgender combat veteran of the Iraq war and an aspirant to holy orders. There is a petition for people of faith to sign at the bottom of the message.
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    Jul 16, 2014 8:24 AM GMT
    Looks like HRC is on board, now


    Civil Rights Organizations Send Letter (7/15/14) To White House Opposing Exemption In LGBT Order
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/civil-rights-organizations-send-letter-to-white-house-opposi

    LGBT EO Sign-On Letter FINAL
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/234004807/LGBT-EO-Sign-On-Letter-FINAL

    LGBT Executive Order Letter From Congress
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/234015214/LGBT-Executive-Order-Letter-From-Congress

    LGBT Executive Order Letter From Legal Scholars
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/234015057/LGBT-Executive-Order-Letter-From-Legal-Scholars


    The groups also call on Obama to reverse a Bush order that expanded the religious exemption under the existing federal contractor order, Executive Order 11246:

    An existing exemption to Executive Order 11246, created by President George W. Bush in Executive Order 13279, permits religiously affiliated organizations that receive government contracts to discriminate in hiring based on religion. Many of our organizations wrote to you in June 2011 to urge you to rescind this harmful amendment and we reiterate our request that you restore this key civil rights protection.
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    Jul 19, 2014 2:01 AM GMT
    Hmmmm, he did not rescind the Bush EO, I am going to guess too much paper work with the federal acquisition regulations


    Obama set to sign LGBT nondiscrimination executive order Monday 7/21/2014
    http://www.metroweekly.com/2014/07/obama-set-to-sign-lgbt-nondiscrimination-executive-order/


    Obama’s executive actions will impact 24,000 companies that employ 28 million workers — a fifth of the nation’s workforce

    “President Obama’s executive order does not modify that Bush exemption,” the administration official said during a Friday call with reporters. “It stands.”

    However, the administration official added such contractors will be held to the same standard as others companies who do work with the federal government under the expected executive order.

    “You can use religion to only hire people who share your religion, but you can’t discriminate against someone who is of your faith who happens to be LGBT, unless they fall within the ministerial exception,” the administration official said.
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    Jul 19, 2014 5:23 AM GMT
    Just found out the Executive Director of the org. on whose board I serve, as well as other clergy from my church, were invited to the signing! She was one of the signers of the letter from faith leaders arguing against the religious exemption.