Medical marijuana

  • swimbikerun

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    Sep 27, 2007 2:36 AM GMT
    I love California, just got a card for marijuana stores!
    It was surreal purchasing it over the counter, all in the open.
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    Sep 27, 2007 4:28 AM GMT
    If you don't my prying, for what is the marijuana ?
  • swimbikerun

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    Sep 27, 2007 4:51 AM GMT
    It's medicine. For what, I'm not saying, lol!
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Sep 27, 2007 11:33 AM GMT
    I'm going to be very nosey, so please don't take offence.

    Is that legal there?

    What do you want it for?

    Give me one good reason why you would want to take that stuff?

    Now maybe medical marijuana is different. I don't know much about that.

    I hope you know what you are doing.

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    Sep 27, 2007 1:04 PM GMT
    I just caught a newscast on how the feds are cracking down bigtime on the pot clubs in CA. Even though the state of CA legalized marijuana for med use, the feds in their infinite wisdom think they know what's right for everyone and say no, CA, you can't do what you want even if it is your body and even if you don't get the marijuana through violent and nefarious channels, even if you grow it yourself. CA and the rest of the US, your bodies do not belong to you. All your bodies are belong to us. Please line up in an orderly fashion, do not resist, your pod is ready.
  • swimbikerun

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    Sep 27, 2007 3:49 PM GMT

    An Irishman counseling not to abuse substances? Dripping with irony! I know what I'm doing, and I take fulll responsibility for my choices.

    That being said, I go a lesson last night to respect the whole thing a lot more.

    I totally agree with McGay. I'm more of a Libertarian, and if I want to do something with m body, I have every right to do so and I needn't provide anyone with any reason.

    NNJfitandbi, I think you're overreacting. There is no direct correlation between marijuana use and death as there is for tobacco and alcohol and crystal meth.
    "In the end, illegalizing pot is a bad idea because it seems pretty clear that the harm of
    illegalizing it outweighs the harm it causes." Can you back this contention up?

    In California it has been legal for a while and I have yet to hear a news report of a spike in marijuana related accidents.

    McGay, no one is more enslaved than the one who thinks he is free. N'est pas?
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    Sep 27, 2007 4:30 PM GMT
    Hey Swimbikerun,

    I am sooooooooooooo jealous of you.

    I really miss smoking. I REALLY do. I used to like to watch movies like Pink Floydd's "The Wall, and Prince's "Sign O the times".

    Used to watch Sheila E's drum solo over and over and over.

    My cousin went to Amsterdam this summer and he said you could sit in the cafe and STYME....

    Lucky bastards....icon_twisted.gif
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    Sep 27, 2007 4:49 PM GMT
    I just wanted to yell "fire" in a theater. Normally, I'd light a match to back it up, but, not today. icon_cool.gif

  • MikePhilPerez

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    Sep 27, 2007 5:22 PM GMT

    "An Irishman counseling not to abuse substances? Dripping with irony!"

    What are you suggesting?

    I do not abuse any substances. I do not drink or smoke.

    If you want to insult, you will have to try harder than that.

    And yes, it is your body, you can do what you like with it.

    People who drink say the same thing. Yet it effects people around them.

    People who smoke say the same thing. Yet it effects people around them.

    Everyone that uses stuff like this, it will have an effect on people around them.

    If it was just the user it affected then yes, it probably should be legal, But that is not the case.

  • swimbikerun

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    Sep 27, 2007 5:36 PM GMT
    Hey "MikePhil", no offense I'm just kidding around! geez, it's like you Irish guys have a temper or something, lol!

    In California, people have passed Proposition 215 which legalizes marijuana use under certain conditions. It is legal in under city, county and state law and the courts have confirmed it.
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Sep 27, 2007 5:44 PM GMT
    OK cool.

    Temper cooled.

    Be carfull with that stuff, OK icon_smile.gif

  • art_smass

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    Sep 27, 2007 6:07 PM GMT
    I'm not really that concerned that marijuana is detrimental to society. I notice that the people I used to smoke pot with twenty-five years ago who are still smoking pot regularly mostly have the same haircuts and listen to the same music. I believe it saps you of ambition. It's mellowing effects can be too mellowing. That's why I don't do it.

    My concern with legalizing pot is that there's not an easy-to-administer road test for marijuana. If there was such a thing as a marijuana breathalizer, I could live with its legalization.
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    Sep 27, 2007 6:14 PM GMT
    I'm all for as little enforcement of pot laws as possible, if not outright legalization. I'm pretty sure it's simply the least dangerous drug out there, nicotine, alcohol, refined sugar/corn syrup, and caffeine included. Economically, you could argue that pot slightly skewes folks towards being consumers rather than producers. But both are necessary for a healthy economy right? ;-) Plus, I think it's great for hospice situations, chemotherapy/cancer patients, AIDS, etc.

    Here in Texas they recently changed the pot law so that the cop can choose to write you a ticket rather than arrest you. That means it'll stay off your record.

    In Austin the cops have been instructed to use this lower level of enforcement whenever possible. I can understand it, as it should save the criminal justice system some money.

    Frankly, I was surprised to learn this, and it may indicate a political return in Texas from neo-con to a more democratic/libertarian past (those last two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive). The fog of Karl Rove seems to finally be lifting here.

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    Oct 04, 2007 9:42 PM GMT
    When I think medicinal I think medicine.

    Therefore use it for medicine. I hear so many people say how they want to move to areas that have been legalized how amazing it is and they forget that its been legalized for medicine.

    I'm not looking at the druggish aspect of it as much as I would suggest that any MEDICINE be used as MEDICINE. that simple. thats cough drops, pain pills, cough syrup, psyche meds, all of it.

    How many people are taking it just for the sake of it and how many simply want to smoke marijuana?

    I do agree however that someone's body is their body. I abstain from what I abstain from cause its my choice, i don't need anyone to get me to do it. And just the same I abstain from people who partake in things that I think they should abstain from.

    The only issue is that if we get on the concept of freedom and being able to do whatever we want with our bodies, when does occupations and driving and everything else become a limitation or does a doctor show up to work to a surgery right after getting hi or something?
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    Oct 04, 2007 10:07 PM GMT
    fuck that shit, im taking next semester in Amsterdam. Fuck yeah.
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    Oct 05, 2007 10:05 AM GMT
    Using pot for medical reasons makes perfect sense to me. Maybe its because of my heritage, coming from a tradition of using the medicine nature provides. Maybe its because most pain killers don't work on me and I know that if I'm ever in that much pain, somebody better make damn sure I've got something to relieve it or heads will roll...

    That said... I did a lot of drugs back in the 80s... a lot meaning large quantities as well as a large variety. Living like a rockstar kind of thing... Currently, I'm in my 22nd year of recovery from a nasty heroin addiction, which was my drug of choice at the time... however, I was hooked on several other substances to a lesser degree. I gave them all up when I gave up the heroin. Of all those substances, pot was the one that I was never addicted to.

    I'm not saying everyone go fire up a j... but I do tend to think that the stupid things people do under the influence of pot are far more dangerous than the pot itself. I'm very glad the government feels the need to protect us from ourselves. What I really hate is the way the government relentlessly strives to veto our autonomy over our own bodies... and if its not them, its the insurance industry. Really... don't get me started on this one...

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    Oct 10, 2007 9:58 PM GMT
    As with everything, you need moderation.

    I don't mind blazing every now and again. But I stay away just because I don't want the god foresaken munchies. But I've laughed my ass off, and love listening to music while high.
  • swimbikerun

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    Oct 19, 2007 2:14 AM GMT
    It is a strange experience going into a shop where marijuana is sold.

    There's one I'd see on my way home and that was the first one I went into. It clean but something seemed fishy.

    Another one I went to near my place was run by a nervous Asian family. They make good cookies and I'm going to try one of their rice crispy cakes, lol.