Metabolism issues :/

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    Jun 29, 2014 11:04 AM GMT
    Hey everyone! I've been trying to bulk up for a couple of months but no matter what I eat or how much I eat, I'll always get this lean/athletic body type. I'm not trying to be a bodybuilder, but I'd like to get a little bigger. Did anyone have a similar problem?How did you get through it? Any help would be nice and thanks in advance!
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    Jun 29, 2014 11:11 AM GMT
    It's not metabolism. You just don't eat as much as you think you do. Thin people actually have a SLOWER metabolism, because the lower weight requires less calories to sustain itself.

    Get a calculator, read labels, and do the math. You'll be surprised. icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 29, 2014 2:26 PM GMT
    If you're eating plenty of protein, then you need to increase your fat intake. Healthy fats. Olive oil, nuts, avocado, coconut milk (full fat version), butter, full fat yogurt, soft cheese, etc.

    I had the same problem at your age (was 20 pounds less than I am now), but I did not know how to eat and believed in the lowfat nonsense that was "scientific" wisdom at the time.
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    Jun 29, 2014 2:52 PM GMT
    Go to a dietician in a medical setting and have a test performed to measure your resting metabolic rate (RMR). The test is called a "MEDGEM" and it measures the gasses in your exhaled breath over a period of minutes....and can then calculate your metabolic rate.....

    It is not always intuitive to think that small lean people have fast metabolism and fat people have a slow metabolism....more often the reverse is true.....It is worth the money....between free and about $100 for the test and figure it to be about 30 to 60 minutes and to fast for several hours before....

    This is a BIG tool for "weight loss", but is a great general measure of your actual caloric needs. Realize that MOST Americans are overweight and need to dump weight....so the "underweight and lean" are ignored in the marketplace.... But this is GREAT information for EVERYONE. Good Luck!

    http://www.mimhs.com/medgem/solutions/med/overview/
  • NerdLifter

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    Jun 29, 2014 3:45 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidIt's not metabolism. You just don't eat as much as you think you do. Thin people actually have a SLOWER metabolism, because the lower weight requires less calories to sustain itself.

    Get a calculator, read labels, and do the math. You'll be surprised. icon_wink.gif

    Yep, this is how I started making gains. I thought I ate a lot of food! When in reality, compared to bodybuilders, I don't eat nearly enough. Compared to my family, however, they think I'm a food fiend.

    Keep track of what I ate on a spreadsheet, I was only getting 50-70g of protein a day and eating around 1500-2100 calories. Not going to make much gains on that intake. Occasionally I would eat more, but not consistently.

    Bought protein powder just as a supplement, but mostly just buy tons of food and try to eat it all, and never be in a position where there is not good high protein balanced food available.

    Sure enough, I started seeing gains for the first time in years. I'm approaching 170 lbs after being stuck at 155-160. However, really is a chore to shovel the food in!

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    Jun 29, 2014 4:42 PM GMT
    -- My current (slightly bulk) diet consists of 6000Kcal spread over 9 meals
    -- My breakfast alone is 1000Kcal
    -- My body fat goes to 9% when bulking and 7% in my normal (5500Kcal) diet
    -- When I started working out 6 years ago my weight was 140lbs, currently I weigh 200lbs
    -- My appetite is low so my diet was crafted to make the best use of calorie dense foods that won't stuff me
    -- I consume 10lbs of whey per month (and the one I use has no conservatives, sweeteners, flavors)
    -- Calorie dense foods I consume include:

    -- Cashew nuts (550Kcal in 100g)
    -- Almonds (570Kcal in 100g)
    -- Açaí pulp (250Kcal in 100g)
    -- Coconut pulp (350Kcal in 100g)

    -- I drink most of my calories. I don't have the appetite to eat them and even if I did, I would have to be a professional bodybuilder with a sponsor since I would have to spend my entire day eating
    -- Most of my carbs come from:

    -- Oatmeal
    -- Granola
    -- Bananas

  • nevadaswole

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    Jun 29, 2014 4:48 PM GMT
    Definitely a case of not eating enough. I'm run an Online Personal Training business, and what sets it apart is that the entire system is online. It tracks calories and macros automatically by simply typing them into the search bar and adding them to your diet.

    What's great about it is that I often show new clients with the same problem that in reality what they're eating is simply not enough. I run a face time chat with them and basically put their whole 'current diet' online. Often they're at cutting calories with a deficit of around 500. Heck sometimes I've had people eating WELL below maintenance and questioning why they don't put on weight.

    Sometimes it can also be a case of outside factors though. For example, I had a client who was prescribed ritalin by his doctor. Well ritalin has the nasty habit of sky-rocketing your metabolism. He weighed 140lbs and couldn't gain weight at 4000 calories. So it's not always down to not eating enough, sometimes eating enough would be impossible.
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    Jun 29, 2014 4:51 PM GMT
    Pretty much the same as every one els i fort i was eating enough but never made gains then went all out on the food front tracking what i was eating and seeing what i was getting from every thing and weight started to go up.

    Working up my appetite was the biggest problem as i found my self simply not hungry at times but knew i had to eat you have to almost ignore that your getting full when you gut says no more to get the food in D: but you get better

    One thing that helped me a bit was weight gainer shakes on top of my meals and a supplement called Engorge witch i think helped lol

    http://shopxerolimits.com/


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    Jun 29, 2014 5:00 PM GMT
    ^

    I made extensive use of gainers in my first 3 years, especially because of my low appetite. You don't need appetite to drink, so you drink a weight gainer. It's very practical.

    There are superior options though.

    If you mix 100g of açaí pulp (250Kcal) with 100g of coconut pulp (350Kcal), this alone will give you 600Kcal. Then you mix a scoop of a quality whey protein, oatmeal and voila: you'll have a very high calorie, high protein gainer which, unlike gainer shakes, has a low glycemic index and won't stuff you. In fact, after drinking this shake you will want to eat again in less than 2h since your stomach will be empty.

    PS: Nerdmuscle, you're not exactly an ectomorph, are you?
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    Jun 29, 2014 5:27 PM GMT
    First of all, thank you so much for your replies, I really appreciate them! Fortunatelly, I'm not the only one in such position.
    I consulted a BMR calculator (don't know how reliable they are but decided to try anyway) and after introducing age, height, weight and level of activity it said that I consumed around 1500 calories and that I should eat 1800 calories.

    I'm not sure how many calories I ingest everyday but I guess they are quite a lot. I mean, I eat several meals throughout the day with either meat or fish and between them I'll have snacks(cookies, chocolate cereals and things like that)up until the very moment I go to sleep. I also eat many vegetables and fruits - soups are very popular in Portugal and I love them - but I'm not sure they even apply to this matter.

    How many calories do you think I should eat just to get my body slightly bigger and a little more muscular than I am now? How many do you take? As of now, I don't wanna buy "industrial" proteins (not sure what I should call them) and maybe I'll only use them as a last resort.
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    Jun 29, 2014 5:42 PM GMT
    sincity300 saidFirst of all, thank you so much for your replies, I really appreciate them! Fortunatelly, I'm not the only one in such position.
    I consulted a BMR calculator (don't know how reliable they are but decided to try anyway) and after introducing age, height, weight and level of activity it said that I consumed around 1500 calories and that I should eat 1800 calories.
    Lemme guess, you weight about 150 lbs?
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    Jun 29, 2014 10:15 PM GMT
    I wish! Last time I weighed myself I was at 121 lbs but my range is between 121 and 132 lbs.
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    Jun 29, 2014 11:01 PM GMT
    sincity300 saidI wish! Last time I weighed myself I was at 121 lbs but my range is between 121 and 132 lbs.


    You've provided your weight range, but height and waist size are also important.

    But what do you hope to gain by becoming heavier? In what way would you expect that to improve the quality of your life? From your pictures, you seem to look fine the way you are.
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    Jun 30, 2014 12:00 AM GMT
    sincity300 saidI wish! Last time I weighed myself I was at 121 lbs but my range is between 121 and 132 lbs.
    Try eating 2500+ calories/day. If that's a challenge, find a Golden Coral.
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    Jun 30, 2014 4:47 AM GMT
    take supplement powder - called Dark Matter after workouts follow instructions on usage. And eat protein shakes and chicken and turkey all day / night and tons of water. Get a lifting partner to spot you on heavy lifts.

    Google
    MHP Dark Matter
    and buy it take it for like 2 jugs like 2 or 3 months

    Also take a pre workout to get your pumps and lifting optimized

    stop eating cookies and that stuff you said instead eat meat and real food every 3 or 4 hours eat good meat and sweat potatoes and good carbs but lots of meat and water.
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    Jun 30, 2014 11:09 PM GMT
    I have struggled wit da same issue for the last 10 years. I did try this pill called CB-1 which increases ur appetite and slows ur metabolism and it honestly did work...helped me gain 5 pounds. But mainly you will just have to eat. I kno you've heard dis before many times but dats da only thing dat will work until nature starts runnin its course.
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    Jul 02, 2014 8:31 PM GMT
    sincity300 said
    I consulted a BMR calculator (don't know how reliable they are but decided to try anyway) and after introducing age, height, weight and level of activity it said that I consumed around 1500 calories and that I should eat 1800 calories.

    I'm not sure how many calories I ingest everyday but I guess they are quite a lot.
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    soups are very popular in Portugal and I love them - but I'm not sure they even apply to this matter.


    How did the BMR calculator find out how much you are consuming?
    If you aren't sure how much you are eating then you don't know.
    Soups are mainly water. Tasty and filling but water.

    Go forth and track your calories. Come back and tell all these fine, helpful people how much you eat. Then start eating more than maintenance. If you aren't gaining or losing right now then your current intake is maintenance. Much more precise than some online calculator. If you still don't increase your mass then increase again how much you eat. Listen to all of this useful advice in this thread.

    But start by tracking your calories when you eat like you do now. At very minimum for a week. It can change enormously from day to day.
  • buddycat

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    Jul 03, 2014 8:20 AM GMT
    They say if you want to gain weight to eat peanut butter. If you want to bulk don't you eat more and lift more weight with less reps?