Bosom Buddies: Photo History of Male Affection

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    Jun 29, 2014 9:19 PM GMT
    I think this is really fascinating.

    http://www.artofmanliness.com/2012/07/29/bosom-buddies-a-photo-history-of-male-affection/
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    Jun 29, 2014 9:53 PM GMT
    Men have always been close to each other, especially when serving together in the military, or in group activities like sports. I remember photos of my late namesake uncle Robert (killed in France fighting during WWII) cavorting naked with his buddies, hugging them, showing affection. That's what men did.

    It's all lost now, I'm not sure why. Nowadays we can't touch another guy in public, and we do the towel dance in the gym locker room. I think it's the perverse influence of the Christian fundamentalists.

    But whatever it is, the male world I knew as a kid is gone. A world represented in those photos, that was once considered normal. Just men bonding with other men. Looks weird today, but it was accepted when I was a kid. Men could hug men.
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    Jun 29, 2014 9:57 PM GMT
    Makes me feel good seeing it.

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    Jun 29, 2014 10:15 PM GMT
    Those days are slowly coming back, now that being gay is becoming more socially accepted. The straight guys who are comfortable with their sexuality are becoming more inclined to hug and show affection again...even with their gay friends.

    Males have always bonded, just as women do. Now they're finally being able to do it publicly again.

    My "opinion" on why it was publicly frowned on for a while is a combination of Stonewall + hateful religions. Up until Stonewall, it was completely normal for men to be physically friendly with each other.
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    Jun 29, 2014 10:23 PM GMT
    Gerrard conforting Suarez after they lost playing for the same team.
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    And then Suarez comforting Gerrard when Suarez team eliminated Gerrard's team.

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    Jun 29, 2014 10:23 PM GMT
    bon_pan said
    Makes me feel good seeing it.

    The affection shown in these old vintage photographs was once considered normal between men.

    Some of them may have been gay, I dunno. But straight men hugged their buddies, too, held hands, and took those pictures.

    I'm 15 years older than you. And in that short time in the US a change happened. I'm not sure why, or how, but it did, Pictures like these look strange today, and gay. They weren't at the time. Men could hug men.
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    Jun 29, 2014 10:27 PM GMT
    You still see that affection between guys in the military. It was common for guys to hug their buds and hold their hands. You're right, I don't know what happened, either. Hopefully things will turn around.
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    Jun 29, 2014 10:32 PM GMT
    wild guess: hyper-masculinity?
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    Jun 29, 2014 11:08 PM GMT
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    Hey brother... you better watch out for that ear!
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    Jun 29, 2014 11:11 PM GMT
    ^ icon_lol.gif I was waiting for the joke.
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    Jun 29, 2014 11:26 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidThose days are slowly coming back, now that being gay is becoming more socially accepted. The straight guys who are comfortable with their sexuality are becoming more inclined to hug and show affection again...even with their gay friends.

    I've noticed this especially on my university campus - not really as much in my cohort (late 20s/early 30s), but definitely with the next cohort (late teens/early 20s). I think we as gay/bisexual men can do a lot to support this positive change by not starting a bunch of gay rumours every time men get comfortable being affectionate with one other. How else will they be confident enough in being affectionate around us without things getting complicated if we can't show our support for straight male affection without making things complicated for them? We (I'm talking generally as non-heterosexual people, not us personally) have sadly also played a role in making affection between straight men get labeled as 'gay'. We can't change the way heterosexuals perceive affectionate straight men, but we can change the way we do. If we want our sexuality to not be a big deal, theirs shouldn't be either. Just my 2¢...
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    Jun 30, 2014 12:12 AM GMT
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    paulflexes saidThose days are slowly coming back, now that being gay is becoming more socially accepted. The straight guys who are comfortable with their sexuality are becoming more inclined to hug and show affection again...even with their gay friends.

    I've noticed this especially on my university campus - not really as much in my cohort (late 20s/early 30s), but definitely with the next cohort (late teens/early 20s). I think we as gay/bisexual men can do a lot to support this positive change by not starting a bunch of gay rumours every time men get comfortable being affectionate with one other. How else will they be confident enough in being affectionate around us without things getting complicated if we can't show our support for straight male affection without making things complicated for them? We (I'm talking generally as non-heterosexual people, not us personally) have sadly also played a role in making affection between straight men get labeled as 'gay'. We can't change the way heterosexuals perceive affectionate straight men, but we can change the way we do. If we want our sexuality to not be a big deal, theirs shouldn't be either. Just my 2¢...
    Very good points there!

    I've been guilty of mistaking other guys' affection for their sexuality as well. It's something we could all work on. And as it becomes more the norm again, people will eventually realize that we were right all along about the homophobes being closet fags. icon_wink.gif
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    Jun 30, 2014 12:14 AM GMT
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    Hey brother... you better watch out for that ear!


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