Conservatives Need To Read...And Understand...THIS!

  • turtleneckjoc...

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    Jul 05, 2014 12:57 AM GMT
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/09/1053088/-An-open-letter-to-the-people-who-hate-Obama-more-than-they-love-America?detail=email#

    This is well put. It takes many of what I have said on here over time and brought it right into the context it deserves.

    This is what conservative Republicans are...no punches pulled.

    Oh, Republicans may "try" to deny any or all of this, but the fact remains: Their hate is their way of life, their mantra, their Bible.

    They may say it isn't so, however, they won't deny it. None of them will.

    Liberal Democrats need to read this as well and USE this against the hateful Republican tide in this fall's elections.
  • tj85016

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    Jul 05, 2014 5:16 AM GMT
    don't worry, the Democrats will win despite the miserable failings of Obama
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jul 05, 2014 1:47 PM GMT
    tj85016 saiddon't worry, the Democrats will win despite the miserable failings of Obama
    Both democrats and republicans are miserable failures as evidenced by their serious lack of cooperation and compromise in Washington. It is time for the US to evict both democrats and republicans from the halls of American governance.
  • tj85016

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    Jul 05, 2014 2:24 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    tj85016 saiddon't worry, the Democrats will win despite the miserable failings of Obama
    Both democrats and republicans are miserable failures as evidenced by their serious lack of cooperation and compromise in Washington. It is time for the US to evict both democrats and republicans from the halls of American governance.


    I agree, but the Whigs and the Tories have been around forever in every country by whatever name you want to call them
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    Jul 05, 2014 5:21 PM GMT
    You know, the writer of this article lumps everyone together who dislikes Obama into one group of racists, bigoted assholes.
    There are some of us who are opposed to Obama because of the issues. I personally do not listen to Rush Limbaugh or watch Fox News. I think Obama is bad for this country because he tramples on civil liberties.
    And yes, I had the same vociferous complaints about GWB when he was in power.
    Many on the right demonize people they disagree with. But you know what? So do liberals. If we keep demonizing everyone else then pretty soon this country will split itself apart.

    P.S. Getting all of your news from only liberal sources (msnbc, dailykos, huffingtonpost, etc.) isn't much better from a steady diet of conservative drek.
  • tazzari

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    Jul 05, 2014 5:43 PM GMT

    "Republicans hate each other too."

    Can you blame them?
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    Jul 05, 2014 6:50 PM GMT
    Wyndahoi said
    P.S. Getting all of your news from only liberal sources (msnbc, dailykos, huffingtonpost, etc.) isn't much better from a steady diet of conservative drek.


    Of course, anyone who is reasonably intelligent and questioning is going to view any news source with a critical eye. I regularly read the Telegraph (which is considered quite conservative) and the Guardian (which is regarded as very liberal). I would not rely on something like Fox News or the Daily Mail for my news, not necassarily because they have a right-wing bias, but because the quality of their output is generally dire.
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    Jul 05, 2014 7:32 PM GMT
    turtleneckjock saidConservatives Need To Read...And Understand...
    Good luck with that. icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 05, 2014 8:53 PM GMT
    I agree with most of this article, just remember, we are at war with these people, they drew first blood
    (hundreds if not thousands of years ago)
  • turtleneckjoc...

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    Jul 05, 2014 11:01 PM GMT
    Wyndahoi saidYou know, the writer of this article lumps everyone together who dislikes Obama into one group of racists, bigoted assholes.
    There are some of us who are opposed to Obama because of the issues. I personally do not listen to Rush Limbaugh or watch Fox News. I think Obama is bad for this country because he tramples on civil liberties.
    And yes, I had the same vociferous complaints about GWB when he was in power.
    Many on the right demonize people they disagree with. But you know what? So do liberals. If we keep demonizing everyone else then pretty soon this country will split itself apart.

    P.S. Getting all of your news from only liberal sources (msnbc, dailykos, huffingtonpost, etc.) isn't much better from a steady diet of conservative drek.



    A vast (and I do mean VAST) majority of those that hate Barack Obama is because of the man's skin color. That in and of itself is the underlying reason for all the hatred, and yeah....they are racist and bigoted assholes to boot.

    You say Barack Obama "tramples on civil liberties?" If you are speaking of Executive Orders, please review the following table provided in this link:

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php

    If you will notice, Barack Obama has issued 182 Executive Orders (through June 20, 2014), whereas the Republican hero, George W. Bush, issued a mere 291. So why all the bitching, moaning and threats of lawsuits against the President when the potato-head that Republicans wanted in the White House FOREVER, issued more? Where is the logic in all that? You say you had the same gripes against GWB, however, was your voice as loud against him as it likely is now? Maybe, maybe not.



  • creature

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    Jul 05, 2014 11:27 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    tj85016 saiddon't worry, the Democrats will win despite the miserable failings of Obama
    Both democrats and republicans are miserable failures as evidenced by their serious lack of cooperation and compromise in Washington. It is time for the US to evict both democrats and republicans from the halls of American governance.


    Considering how special interest groups play a big part in politics, including drafting legislation and bankrolling a candidate, I'm not sure why you think simply evicting Democrats and Republicans is going to be the answer.
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    turtleneckjock said
    Wyndahoi saidYou know, the writer of this article lumps everyone together who dislikes Obama into one group of racists, bigoted assholes.
    There are some of us who are opposed to Obama because of the issues. I personally do not listen to Rush Limbaugh or watch Fox News. I think Obama is bad for this country because he tramples on civil liberties.
    And yes, I had the same vociferous complaints about GWB when he was in power.
    Many on the right demonize people they disagree with. But you know what? So do liberals. If we keep demonizing everyone else then pretty soon this country will split itself apart.

    P.S. Getting all of your news from only liberal sources (msnbc, dailykos, huffingtonpost, etc.) isn't much better from a steady diet of conservative drek.



    A vast (and I do mean VAST) majority of those that hate Barack Obama is because of the man's skin color. That in and of itself is the underlying reason for all the hatred, and yeah....they are racist and bigoted assholes to boot.

    You say Barack Obama "tramples on civil liberties?" If you are speaking of Executive Orders, please review the following table provided in this link:

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php

    If you will notice, Barack Obama has issued 182 Executive Orders (through June 20, 2014), whereas the Republican hero, George W. Bush, issued a mere 291. So why all the bitching, moaning and threats of lawsuits against the President when the potato-head that Republicans wanted in the White House FOREVER, issued more? Where is the logic in all that? You say you had the same gripes against GWB, however, was your voice as loud against him as it likely is now? Maybe, maybe not.





    The differences are of quality, not quantity. Bush may have issued more EOs, but Obama's have been more audacious and sweeping.

    In any case, yeah, everyone "hates" Obama. Fuck that. I could have a beer with the guy (or smoke a joint, w/e), and we've have fun.

    Although, I'd rather tie him to a chair and make him listen to me recite Wealth of Nations to him in its entirety.

    He's a fuckup.

    His crowning moment of fuckuppery: When he asserted that ATMs and airport kiosks represent "structural issues in our economy" which have eliminated jobs. (Interview with noted idiot Ann Curry.)

    May sound like a little thing, but its actually monumental idiocy: How he could say something like that and believe it that boggles the mind.

    I hate his stupidity.
  • topathlete

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    Jul 06, 2014 3:26 AM GMT
    turtleneckjock saidA vast (and I do mean VAST) majority of those that hate Barack Obama is because of the man's skin color. That in and of itself is the underlying reason for all the hatred, and yeah....they are racist and bigoted assholes to boot.

    This is unfounded and unsupported. Facts and statistical accuracy are irrelevant to the OP and the author of the piece in the web site. Don't let anything get in the way of your slanted view and chip on your shoulder.
  • tj85016

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    Jul 06, 2014 3:36 AM GMT
    creature said
    roadbikeRob said
    tj85016 saiddon't worry, the Democrats will win despite the miserable failings of Obama
    Both democrats and republicans are miserable failures as evidenced by their serious lack of cooperation and compromise in Washington. It is time for the US to evict both democrats and republicans from the halls of American governance.


    Considering how special interest groups play a big part in politics, including drafting legislation and bankrolling a candidate, I'm not sure why you think simply evicting Democrats and Republicans is going to be the answer.


    lol I usually vote against all incumbents just on principle
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    Jul 06, 2014 8:22 AM GMT
    FlippingTires said
    turtleneckjock saidhttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/09/1053088/-An-open-letter-to-the-

    Republicans hate each other too. Every Republican I know thinks he's the only one who knows what's going on and he thinks of every other Republican as a useful idiot.



    There is some truth to this...
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    Jul 06, 2014 8:23 AM GMT
    turtleneckjock said
    Wyndahoi saidYou know, the writer of this article lumps everyone together who dislikes Obama into one group of racists, bigoted assholes.
    There are some of us who are opposed to Obama because of the issues. I personally do not listen to Rush Limbaugh or watch Fox News. I think Obama is bad for this country because he tramples on civil liberties.
    And yes, I had the same vociferous complaints about GWB when he was in power.
    Many on the right demonize people they disagree with. But you know what? So do liberals. If we keep demonizing everyone else then pretty soon this country will split itself apart.

    P.S. Getting all of your news from only liberal sources (msnbc, dailykos, huffingtonpost, etc.) isn't much better from a steady diet of conservative drek.



    A vast (and I do mean VAST) majority of those that hate Barack Obama is because of the man's skin color. That in and of itself is the underlying reason for all the hatred, and yeah....they are racist and bigoted assholes to boot.

    You say Barack Obama "tramples on civil liberties?" If you are speaking of Executive Orders, please review the following table provided in this link:

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php

    If you will notice, Barack Obama has issued 182 Executive Orders (through June 20, 2014), whereas the Republican hero, George W. Bush, issued a mere 291. So why all the bitching, moaning and threats of lawsuits against the President when the potato-head that Republicans wanted in the White House FOREVER, issued more? Where is the logic in all that? You say you had the same gripes against GWB, however, was your voice as loud against him as it likely is now? Maybe, maybe not.





    It's not the amount of executive orders, it's what these orders are that counts.
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    turtleneckjock said
    Wyndahoi saidYou know, the writer of this article lumps everyone together who dislikes Obama into one group of racists, bigoted assholes.
    There are some of us who are opposed to Obama because of the issues. I personally do not listen to Rush Limbaugh or watch Fox News. I think Obama is bad for this country because he tramples on civil liberties.
    And yes, I had the same vociferous complaints about GWB when he was in power.
    Many on the right demonize people they disagree with. But you know what? So do liberals. If we keep demonizing everyone else then pretty soon this country will split itself apart.

    P.S. Getting all of your news from only liberal sources (msnbc, dailykos, huffingtonpost, etc.) isn't much better from a steady diet of conservative drek.



    A vast (and I do mean VAST) majority of those that hate Barack Obama is because of the man's skin color. That in and of itself is the underlying reason for all the hatred, and yeah....they are racist and bigoted assholes to boot.

    You say Barack Obama "tramples on civil liberties?" If you are speaking of Executive Orders, please review the following table provided in this link:

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php

    If you will notice, Barack Obama has issued 182 Executive Orders (through June 20, 2014), whereas the Republican hero, George W. Bush, issued a mere 291. So why all the bitching, moaning and threats of lawsuits against the President when the potato-head that Republicans wanted in the White House FOREVER, issued more? Where is the logic in all that? You say you had the same gripes against GWB, however, was your voice as loud against him as it likely is now? Maybe, maybe not.





    Skin color? You mean that if a white communist pulled the same shit, it would be ok? C'mon, not even Obama himself believes that. He is, however, fully aware of how to use this widely believed, false assertion to his advantage. Meaning, you are his useful idiot.
  • creature

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    Jul 06, 2014 12:21 PM GMT
    Blakes7,

    You really need to invest in a dictionary. Using words like "communist" without knowing their meaning is bad form.
  • WrestlerBoy

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    Jul 06, 2014 12:31 PM GMT
    creature saidBlakes7,

    You really need to invest in a dictionary. Using words like "communist" without knowing their meaning is bad form.


    He's just being nostalgic and showing his age. "We" were communists, communist "sympathizers", and, of course, Un-American in the 1950s. At least now we're just "liberals", the "far left" (these guys have clearly never heard of Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot), and... arghhhhhhh! SOCIALISTS!!!!
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    Jul 06, 2014 12:43 PM GMT
    There is nothing wrong with socialists or leftist. I just find it a bit sad when they think Obama is one of them.

    In reality his economic policies have only continued the corporate cronyism that Reagan started.

    And his record on civil liberties is abysmal.

    If Obama was really a liberal Id have a lot fewer problems with his actions/policies.
  • WrestlerBoy

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    Jul 06, 2014 12:49 PM GMT
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_democracy

    We don't call ourselves a LIBERAL democracy because we can't think of another word.
  • Apparition

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    Jul 06, 2014 1:01 PM GMT
    No american polititcian is even remotely liberal, left, or communist. You have far right religious theocratic plutocrats, and whacko right religious theocratic plutocrats. The middle ground in every other country in the g7 would would make your countrymen scream in terror.
  • WrestlerBoy

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    Jul 06, 2014 1:02 PM GMT
    Apparition saidNo american polititcian is even remotely liberal, left, or communist. You have far right religious theocratic plutocrats, and whacko right religious theocratic plutocrats. The middle ground in every other country in the g7 would would make your countrymen scream in terror.


    Spot on.

    In the U.S. we have had "two wings of the same party" for decades.
  • tj85016

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    Jul 06, 2014 1:14 PM GMT
    Apparition saidNo american polititcian is even remotely liberal, left, or communist. You have far right religious theocratic plutocrats, and whacko right religious theocratic plutocrats. The middle ground in every other country in the g7 would would make your countrymen scream in terror.


    lol American plutocrats are primarily Democrats, especially in New York/NJ/CT, Boston, Chicago, San Francisco/Silicon Valley, Seattle and Philadelphia
  • tj85016

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    Jul 06, 2014 2:10 PM GMT
    Wyndahoi saidThere is nothing wrong with socialists or leftist. I just find it a bit sad when they think Obama is one of them.

    In reality his economic policies have only continued the corporate cronyism that Reagan started.

    And his record on civil liberties is abysmal.

    If Obama was really a liberal Id have a lot fewer problems with his actions/policies.


    corporate cronyism in the US started 240 years ago, ask Alexander Hamilton - that's why Burr shot that prick

    why he's on the $10 bill, I'll never know, change it to MLK