I just want to get out of here!!! To CA!!!

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    Jan 09, 2009 6:23 PM GMT
    Ok so i'm obviously from springfield mass and i want to leave now... well of course i'm planning ahead to a certain degree. There is nothing for me in this depressing cold city and my first thought was "the castro" My older friend suggested LA so I'm focussing my attention on LA. My job at Taco bell despite it's fast foodiness is a corporate so i'm arranging for a transfer to anywhere in or around LA. So i'll have a job to start off with. I don't know anybody i don't know the culture and i have never been to the city of la or anywhere in cali for that matter and i was wondering if any of you cali guys or guys who have visited or lived there could give me some helpfull advice.

    Funny thing is i saw MILK before i made my decision but even before i saw that movie it's always been in the back of my head to move to a more GLBT friendly and tan friendly location and CA despite prop 8 seems to be the best bet and i will finally LIVE!!!
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    Jan 10, 2009 7:06 AM GMT
    Taco Bell HQ is located in Irvine, CA. Nice place to live. But kinda on the pricey side. And the city is kinda bland and sterile. Not much of a night life, since the entire is practically owned by a corporation. You might like Newport Beach instead.

    I guess West Hollywood would be considered gay central for the LA area. So if Taco Bell has a corporate office near that area, you might want to request that location.

    Either way, I would suggest finding a place to live close to work. Our public transportation sucks and our freeways are a mess. If you choose the wrong place, you're gonna wind up spending most of your paycheck on gas for your car commuting to work.

    Having a job before relocating is great. You're already one step ahead. But some general bits of advice before thinking about moving here.

    - It's expensive! Check craigslist to get an idea of what 1-bedroom apartments go for. You can always go for the roommate option I guess.

    - You need a car. Like I mentioned above, you can't get around LA without one.

    - Don't get caught up in the debauchery. LA has a lot of temptations. You can hit rock bottom pretty easy if you don't watch yourself.

    - LA has a reputation for being rude and unfriendly. I don't think that's true. For the most part, people like to keep to themselves and not get into other people's business. The rude ones are actually people that recently relocated here. icon_lol.gif

    - Consider taking a mini vacation out here. Take a few days to get a feel for the area. Wander around and explore. And see if you like it. Then make your final decision.
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    Jan 11, 2009 2:18 AM GMT
    Going for the roommate option, no car, mini-vaca is out of the question. Not so rich. Not too worried about spending a little. Plus if there is exotic dancing in the area, i will be doing that part time too.
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    Jan 11, 2009 2:37 AM GMT
    High price areas are a bad choice for lower income people. I can rent out one room (no kitchen) in s.f./silicon valley for $1000/month. I can rent a 3 bedroom house in Pittsburg Pa. for $300.00. Most people like yourself don't last in S.F. very long because it is cool to slum it for a while but once your clothes, shoes,car,ipod, bike, glasses, teeth etc, need work or wear out or you want to travel, or your parking tickets pile up, you are broke and/or owe everybody and need to hit up your parents just to get out of here.
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    Jan 14, 2009 5:40 AM GMT
    I have my company's insurance and I"m dancing and saving before late april when i plan on making the BIG move. I"m a smoker going without ciggs right now. I'm a survivor in general and good looks can't get you everywhere but i will be using them to my advantage when necessary.lol I'm purchasing a round trip and i never owe money. I always pay cash. Only reason i'm getting a credit card is to establish credit and I'll be starting without a car btw. I"m a wandering pisces looking for my niche in this interesting fabric of life and living. I may also do some exotic dancing over there and i don't plan on being a circuit boy. Not into heavy or scary drugs. I'm simply 420 friendly. Who knows I may even become famous. I know that when i do sit down and write my autobiography i'll have plenty of stories to tell.
    last monday i took the bus to hartford by myself to see MILK
    An older queen told me about a demo happening in boston which was this past saturday and i went and saw barney frank and mayor menino.
    In 2007 december i went to live in Rochester NY to be with my bf at the time he hit me so i left.
    I am good with my current landlord and if things weren't working out and if were to want to come back the doors would be open for me. I'm also very jewish with money now of days.lol
  • caliboy

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    Jan 14, 2009 5:55 AM GMT
    Sounds like you can survive no matter where you go. Looks are helpful yet they don't pay all the bills. I have a personal managment company and peeps always try to get this with their muggs, it's not a sure thing. Just remember that everything in CA is double the price generally. I travel often and it never fails to find things cheaper elsewhere, but I still love my Cali... it's home for me. Good luck bro.
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    Jan 14, 2009 6:27 AM GMT
    Thanks. I'm feeling pretty confident about how well i can do and yes i am scared as shit but I always do what i say i'll do and I said it so now i need to go through with it. My current goal to live succesfully in LA is definitely motivating me to do more for myself right now. I'll be going for my license soon and I'm saving better than ever and I'm feeling so happy and excited about all of the possibilities. Also hoping to be somebody's apprentice and I hve heard about eateries over there being wonderful and always hiring so act like you know taco bell is pretty temporary but will look good on a resume as long as i stick with it for at least a year and this january is month 8 of my employment with this corp.
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    Jan 15, 2009 5:40 AM GMT
    Alex I know at 19 you feel you know it all, however have a better plan. If you are having problems or have not been able to save where you live right now, those same problems will follow!!! It's just geography. Don't just take it from me, but my above advice has been said before from wiser men than I. Ask and find out as much as possible-look before you leap. Look to other's for advice not just other 19 year olds. Get advice from adults and family who love you!

    Good Luck- not telling you not to move-just do it right.
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    Jan 16, 2009 7:52 PM GMT
    Well I'm not moving anywhere until late in april. I don't expect to get rich quick and btw I'll be 20 before i'm there 19 will no longer apply. also i have spoken to guys who have gone without even really planning it out and they seem pretty happy about the choice they have made. I believe being openly gay should help me rather than hurt me bc even outside the country i have always found other gay guys to help me survive and have fun at the same time.lol Iam nervous and sdcared but i also feel the need for a rebirth into a new world some "change"
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    Jan 16, 2009 10:19 PM GMT
    I also find myself over the town i live in. Im 23 in college and have ventured out to nyc( which failed) and then moved to tampa ( relatives support there) and guess where i lfet tampa 8 months to go back home old clarksville, tn. I feel yah I want to move again. Deep down inside I want to leave for reasons im not fully aware of but one day i will be settled and content again. Though I am in school my head tells me to keep moving for happiness and give up the school, though my heart tells me I hvae issues. Im being impatient but I remember the feelings of joy everyday waking up in a new place. is that alone not enough to make a choice? doe snayone have advice on this?
  • EricLA

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    Jan 16, 2009 10:40 PM GMT
    Alexander, DO your research before you move here. It's an expensive place to live. Not clear at what level you work at Taco Bell, but I'm not sure it's at the corporate level. Even sharing a place will probably cost you more than you think. Plus, mass transit sort of sucks. You can get around, but it can take a lot of effort. And with California's budget issues, mass transit cuts are likely to continue. And with all the pretty boys around, exotic dancers are probably at a surplus. Just be sure you know what you're getting yourself into. This place can eat people up if they don't have means.
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    Jan 16, 2009 10:45 PM GMT
    rosenberger_m saidI also find myself over the town i live in. Im 23 in college and have ventured out to nyc( which failed) and then moved to tampa ( relatives support there) and guess where i lfet tampa 8 months to go back home old clarksville, tn. I feel yah I want to move again. Deep down inside I want to leave for reasons im not fully aware of but one day i will be settled and content again. Though I am in school my head tells me to keep moving for happiness and give up the school, though my heart tells me I hvae issues. Im being impatient but I remember the feelings of joy everyday waking up in a new place. is that alone not enough to make a choice? doe snayone have advice on this?


    Matt, sounds like you know what's right. You just have some cabin fever or some itch that you need to scratch. Take a step back. You can get a lot further, especially these days, with a degree. If you're relatively close to finishing, I'd hang tough. This isn't the climate to be looking for a job, you really are better off focusing on your education. If you can transfer to a different school that better fits your needs, that's a different story. But, just to move for the sake of a change of scenery, now doesn't seem the time.
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    Jan 16, 2009 10:47 PM GMT
    MA and LA don't mix, IMHO!
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    Jan 16, 2009 10:52 PM GMT
    Alexander89 saidOk so i'm obviously from springfield mass and i want to leave now... well of course i'm planning ahead to a certain degree. There is nothing for me in this depressing cold city and my first thought was "the castro" My older friend suggested LA so I'm focussing my attention on LA. My job at Taco bell despite it's fast foodiness is a corporate so i'm arranging for a transfer to anywhere in or around LA. So i'll have a job to start off with. I don't know anybody i don't know the culture and i have never been to the city of la or anywhere in cali for that matter and i was wondering if any of you cali guys or guys who have visited or lived there could give me some helpfull advice.

    Funny thing is i saw MILK before i made my decision but even before i saw that movie it's always been in the back of my head to move to a more GLBT friendly and tan friendly location and CA despite prop 8 seems to be the best bet and i will finally LIVE!!!


    Hey bro I hear ya. I am trying to do the same...except I am trying to leave Pensacola (nothing like you think FL is like... imagine rural Alabama with a beach), and move up north. Preferably Chicago or NY as they are cold and massive. I would also be up for the Twin Cities or Boston, but my odds of finding a job are probably better in Chicago and NYC. I have never lived in a city larger than Chattanooga TN, and I am really looking forward to starting a life up north.
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    Jan 16, 2009 11:20 PM GMT
    well im close to halfway through icon_sad.gif I just hate school more than anything which makes me more eager to leave
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    Jan 17, 2009 12:37 AM GMT
    Alex:

    Good luck with your move.

    You've gotten a lot of good advice. The guys on this site certainly want the best for you.

    Research where the various Taco Bell locations are that you can transfer to and mention them in your next post to this thread, so the Cali guys can give you help on which ones are good and from which you should shy away. They can also give you help on neighborhoods to live in close to those locations. Once you've sorted all that out, ask Taco Bell for help in finding a place to live. There might even be an RJ member that would have a room to rent in the area.

    You say you know no one in Cali. There are a lot of RJ members that have been on here a long time and they know you as much as anyone on the site. Use those acquaintanceships/friendships. There are a lot of guys in Cali that may not have seen your post...contact them directly.

    Do not count on the exotic dancing to supplement your income. EricLA gives good advice and is there. Take advantage of his knowledge.

    Matt:

    Your profile says you love what you're studying...if so, finish while you're there; just bite the bullet and get it over with. Most people that leave school for the type of sabbatical you are talking about never finish school. A degree is always going to help you and should never hurt you. You'll have plenty of time to satisfy your wanderlust when you've finished.