Sand-Based Batteries to Improve Lithium Ion Batteries By 3 Times

  • metta

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    Jul 10, 2014 6:14 AM GMT
    Sand-Based Batteries to Improve Lithium Ion Batteries By 3 Times

    http://www.autoevolution.com/news/sand-based-batteries-to-improve-lithium-ion-batteries-by-3-times-83655.html
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    Jul 10, 2014 11:33 AM GMT
    Hmm, I know several who have suggested that the entire Middle East problem would be solved by making glass out of the sand there....so why not batteries? icon_lol.gificon_biggrin.gificon_lol.gif
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    Jul 10, 2014 1:46 PM GMT
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    It's about time!
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    Jul 10, 2014 1:59 PM GMT
    StudlyScrewRite said Hmm, I know several who have suggested that the entire Middle East problem would be solved by making glass out of the sand there....so why not batteries? icon_lol.gificon_biggrin.gificon_lol.gif

    When the first atomic bomb was exploded in the desert near Los Alamos in 1945, scientists were surprised to discover that the incredible heat had fuzed some of the sand into glass. You're not implying...?
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    Jul 10, 2014 2:49 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    StudlyScrewRite said Hmm, I know several who have suggested that the entire Middle East problem would be solved by making glass out of the sand there....so why not batteries? icon_lol.gificon_biggrin.gificon_lol.gif

    When the first atomic bomb was exploded in the desert near Los Alamos in 1945, scientists were surprised to discover that the incredible heat had fuzed some of the sand into glass. You're not implying...?


    lol why would scientists be surprised when the blast radius has a temp of 6000C and sand will vitrify at 2000C? Not to mention the huge rise in pressure.

    surprised? nope
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    Jul 10, 2014 4:20 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    StudlyScrewRite said Hmm, I know several who have suggested that the entire Middle East problem would be solved by making glass out of the sand there....so why not batteries? icon_lol.gificon_biggrin.gificon_lol.gif

    When the first atomic bomb was exploded in the desert near Los Alamos in 1945, scientists were surprised to discover that the incredible heat had fuzed some of the sand into glass. You're not implying...?


    The bomb was designed and manufactured at Los Alamos, but was transported and exploded at the Trinity test site some 200 miles south.

    I've been to the Los Alamos National Labs Museum which has extensive displays detailing the history and research that's been done up to current day. They have full size mockups of both Fat Man and Little Boy, the bombs that were dropped over Hiroshima and Nagasaki Japan.

    The city was highly secured, letters going in and out being subject to censorship. Displays document how the researchers and their families lived during the WW II period.

    The Trinity site opens once a year -- in April -- for those interested.

    Los Alamos is located on a high desert mesa northwest of Santa Fe.
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    Jul 10, 2014 4:47 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    StudlyScrewRite said Hmm, I know several who have suggested that the entire Middle East problem would be solved by making glass out of the sand there....so why not batteries? icon_lol.gificon_biggrin.gificon_lol.gif

    When the first atomic bomb was exploded in the desert near Los Alamos in 1945, scientists were surprised to discover that the incredible heat had fuzed some of the sand into glass. You're not implying...?

    The bomb was designed and manufactured at Los Alamos, but was transported and exploded at the Trinity test site some 200 miles south.

    I know, why I didn't say "at" Los Alamos. But citing Trinity would not have been clear to most readers, I believe, since it's Los Alamos that has gone down in history as being associated with the first atomic explosion.
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    Jul 10, 2014 4:53 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    StudlyScrewRite said Hmm, I know several who have suggested that the entire Middle East problem would be solved by making glass out of the sand there....so why not batteries? icon_lol.gificon_biggrin.gificon_lol.gif

    When the first atomic bomb was exploded in the desert near Los Alamos in 1945, scientists were surprised to discover that the incredible heat had fuzed some of the sand into glass. You're not implying...?

    lol why would scientists be surprised when the blast radius has a temp of 6000C and sand will vitrify at 2000C? Not to mention the huge rise in pressure.

    surprised? nope

    Because these were not geologists. Even if some of them thought the tremendous heat would alter the landscape, seeing the confirmation, touching the glass produced, was still amazing. These were theoretical physicists, and while their science predicted some of this, many said they couldn't be sure any of this would work as they predicted until they saw the actual results.
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    Jul 10, 2014 5:15 PM GMT
    wake me when my cell phone can go for more than a day without a charge. we are truly still in the battery dark ages..
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    Jul 10, 2014 5:23 PM GMT
    ^^

    come on - the people in Cambridge England, University of Chicago, Cal Berkeley, Princeton and Columbia knew exactly what would happen when they fissioned 10kg of U-235

    the uncertainty was about how to make the U-235 isotope, arrange it and how to detonate the thing, not the results

    Teller even thought it might set the atmosphere on fire. If they could get the thing to work, they knew it would melt sand.

    They'd be more surprised if it didn't melt sand