Isn't hooking up with random strangers the same as wanting/being a prostitute?

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    Jul 13, 2014 7:01 AM GMT
    So, I'm at the gym today. I run into this guy who has been hitting me up now for awhile online. So, it's slow at the gym, and although I only recognized him 1 other time, this time the opportunity to chit chat and shoot the shit was open. Well, when it comes down to the conversation at the gym, it seems normal...but after we exchange numbers, it's all sexual. Like straight to the point sexual. I ask him what he's having for dinner, he says he wants to fuck. I'm Like dude, I just met you a moment ago, and you're trying to get me back to your place to fuck? We go to the same gym, let's just go about this like normal people.

    I ended up having to let him know, if that's all you're about, you must want an escort. Hell, you came to me like I was a hooker, don't be surprised if I ask where the cash at. Then, it's the usual response of, "I don't have to pay for sex". Well then, fuck off. Who the fuck he think he is to just expect somebody to want to right away go home with a stranger, and not be a prostitute?

    Some gay men really need to get their fuck mind right. It's just stupid. In the straight world, men expect to pay prostitutes if they want a stranger off the street to come home and have sex with them. Gay men see the shit as normal, and then get mad when you drop the facts on em. If you bold enough to expect technically 'prostitute services' for nothing, then I'm going to be bold enough to ask you to walk your ass right over to an ATM too.

    I try to teach these young kids to not allow (namely older, more well-off) men to abuse them and get free services off of them. You don't have to be an escort, but make him work for it. Demand that commitment from him before you give that shit up. At the very least, make him take you out or get to know one another. Even if commitment not the goal, there's less impulsive ways to go about sex. All this fucking free, NSA sex entitlement bullshit these mother fuckers pulling, is why guys stay single, relationships don't last, and sex is just an activity rather than something with deeper meaning to it.

    I know there's going to be lots of hoopla about this, but I don't give a fuck. Be mad, hate me. But I think there's a lot of gay men out there that need to just admit they have allowed themselves to perpetuate this idea that it's okay to be prostitute, as long as you're not getting paid for it. But, unless someone has the will to change, they'll continue to repeat and spread the cycle.
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    Jul 13, 2014 7:09 AM GMT
    you speak like youre the biggest deal out there, maybe the dude just invited you to fuck, if you dont want to just turn him down and thats it. Why do you make such a big deal of this?
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    Jul 13, 2014 7:10 AM GMT
    FuzzyPecs25 saidIn the straight world, men pay prostitutes if they want a stranger to come home and have sex with them. Gay men see the shit as normal, and think I'm going to be dropping undies for no money. Bitch...they got it SOOOOO twisted.


    Not that I'm advocating for NSA, but this happens in the straight world too. The only difference is that more often than not the guy bought the girl a drink or two at the club, they talked and danced for a bit, and then they went to one of their places to fuck. Now that Tinder is around, heteros do exactly what gay/bi men have been doing for ages with Manhunt, A4A, Grindr, Hornet, Scruff and all the like - a quick fuck 'n' chuck.

    Blame technology - it is responsible for a lot of the ways that people are fucked up today, and that has nothing to do with their sexual orientation. No one has to like it, but it's increasingly becoming the norm in Straightville too...
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    Jul 13, 2014 7:40 AM GMT
    OP you would be right except for the fact that other people are happy to do it...
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    Jul 13, 2014 7:43 AM GMT
    RedEssence saidNow that Tinder is around, heteros do exactly what gay/bi men have been doing for ages with Manhunt, A4A, Grindr, Hornet, Scruff and all the like - a quick fuck 'n' chuck. Blame technology - it is responsible for a lot of the ways that people are fucked up today, and that has nothing to do with their sexual orientation. No one has to like it, but it's increasingly becoming the norm in Straightville too...

    But it's just so....what's the word? Ummm...tasteless? To just expect someone a guy met in public or anywhere, to ASSUME they are going to be willing to do something sexual, and then abuse it moreso because that person happened to be on Grindr.

    I know there's some loose women out there too. But, in my situation, how likely is a man to get a woman's number at the gym/grocery store, then start talking about sex...when the woman asked about dinner? That woman would have made my thread look like reading rainbow. She would have kicked him in the balls at the next Pilates class, beat him up like a punching bag, and then do jumping jacks on his ass.

    And to add, as for meeting guys at bars and going home with them? Well honestly, I don't hold that against anyone. Sometimes it's nice to just be able to meet a guy at a bar, get drunk, and go home together. My issue are the ones who don't even want to do that. They want you to go from point A to point BEDROOM at the drop of a fucking dime. Actually, not even a dime!

    David3K saidyou speak like youre the biggest deal out there, maybe the dude just invited you to fuck, if you dont want to just turn him down and thats it. Why do you make such a big deal of this?

    Why am I making a big deal out of it? I'll tell you why I'm making a big deal out of it.

    Because if someone is going to come at another they BARELY fucking know, WITHOUT EVEN FUCKING GETTING SOME KIND OF ASSESSMENT OR ASKING ABOUT THE OTHER PERSONS GOALS/INTENTIONS and instead EXPECT to just get down after knowing them just a few minutes...then they obviously want and expect to meet a prostitute, in which case they need to fulfill their end of the agreement. If they don't have the common sense/courtesy to treat a person like a normal civilian, rather than a sex commodity, then they need to seek out the services of an escort to get their rocks off. But don't be expecting it to come for free, just because YOU think it SHOULD be free. Fuckers.
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    Jul 13, 2014 8:15 PM GMT
    In case it wasn't clear to everyone else, OP is a prostitute.

    So what's the protocol for prostitutes then? You only charge money when you're not attracted to the guy?
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    Jul 13, 2014 8:27 PM GMT
    Umm, I think you doth protest too much!

    Weren't you the guy who wanted his house guest to put out or get out?

    The gym guy was doing what you were, just more to the point. Tactless? Yes. But less of a game.
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    Jul 13, 2014 8:31 PM GMT
    how did OP and the other guy know each other is gay again?
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    Jul 13, 2014 10:57 PM GMT
    leafgreen saidhow did OP and the other guy know each other is gay again?

    Other guy probably found OP's profile on Rentboy or some other escort site.
  • MikeW

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    Jul 14, 2014 3:04 AM GMT
    I agree. We should all charge one another for sex.
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    Jul 14, 2014 3:38 AM GMT
    I always look forward to clicking on a new thread from the OP; he lives in a different universe and his posts are entertaining.
  • MikeW

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    Jul 14, 2014 3:39 AM GMT
    Seriously? I never noticed that b4.
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    Jul 14, 2014 5:48 AM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidI always look forward to clicking on a new thread from the OP; he lives in a different universe and his posts are entertaining.

    It was entertaining at first. But kinda predictable lately. It's always some rant about dating revolving around the current city he's living and race/ethnicity.
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    Jul 14, 2014 6:52 AM GMT
    Ohno saidOP you would be right except for the fact that other people are happy to do it...


    lol

    A guy gave me a few hundred dollars once and I'd not even had sex with him... For like x-mas or my b-day? I would just ask how his mother is.. Next thing you know though --

    :s

    I dunno, was he hot? Does it always matter?

    :s

    me thinks you got a lot of hangups and skellies under yo bed. Maybe romanticism or like you were insulted b.c you wanted more from him..

    I dunno I felt this way with one ex but, he told me he only hung out with me to have sex with me..

    I don't understand why he became a vegetarian or came out of the closet after he & I broke up buuuuut....

    Maybe you should like I dunno not worry about it so much and get what you want... Who cares about him...? Lol
  • Rene_Aensland

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    Jul 14, 2014 7:20 AM GMT
    I wouldn't pay for your services either.
    You're not hot shit buddy.
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    Jul 14, 2014 7:36 AM GMT
    What the fuck? icon_neutral.gif
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    Jul 14, 2014 9:34 AM GMT
    I've gotten escorts to give me freebees.
    They've usually contacted me first.

    I retort, "Feel free to contact me when you're off the clock and the meter is not running."

    That line usually works.
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    Jul 14, 2014 2:57 PM GMT
    FuzzyPecs25 said
    RedEssence saidNow that Tinder is around, heteros do exactly what gay/bi men have been doing for ages with Manhunt, A4A, Grindr, Hornet, Scruff and all the like - a quick fuck 'n' chuck. Blame technology - it is responsible for a lot of the ways that people are fucked up today, and that has nothing to do with their sexual orientation. No one has to like it, but it's increasingly becoming the norm in Straightville too...

    But it's just so....what's the word? Ummm...tasteless? To just expect someone a guy met in public or anywhere, to ASSUME they are going to be willing to do something sexual, and then abuse it moreso because that person happened to be on Grindr.

    I know there's some loose women out there too. But, in my situation, how likely is a man to get a woman's number at the gym/grocery store, then start talking about sex...when the woman asked about dinner? That woman would have made my thread look like reading rainbow. She would have kicked him in the balls at the next Pilates class, beat him up like a punching bag, and then do jumping jacks on his ass.

    And to add, as for meeting guys at bars and going home with them? Well honestly, I don't hold that against anyone. Sometimes it's nice to just be able to meet a guy at a bar, get drunk, and go home together. My issue are the ones who don't even want to do that. They want you to go from point A to point BEDROOM at the drop of a fucking dime. Actually, not even a dime!

    David3K saidyou speak like youre the biggest deal out there, maybe the dude just invited you to fuck, if you dont want to just turn him down and thats it. Why do you make such a big deal of this?

    Why am I making a big deal out of it? I'll tell you why I'm making a big deal out of it.

    Because if someone is going to come at another they BARELY fucking know, WITHOUT EVEN FUCKING GETTING SOME KIND OF ASSESSMENT OR ASKING ABOUT THE OTHER PERSONS GOALS/INTENTIONS and instead EXPECT to just get down after knowing them just a few minutes...then they obviously want and expect to meet a prostitute, in which case they need to fulfill their end of the agreement. If they don't have the common sense/courtesy to treat a person like a normal civilian, rather than a sex commodity, then they need to seek out the services of an escort to get their rocks off. But don't be expecting it to come for free, just because YOU think it SHOULD be free. Fuckers.

    An invitation to casual sex is not treating someone like a prostitute; To expect sex is not treating someone like a prostitute. To expect sex is hope; but to expect money to change hands is what makes it prostitution.
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    Jul 14, 2014 7:24 PM GMT
    Upper_Cdn said


    An invitation to casual sex is not treating someone like a prostitute; To expect sex is not treating someone like a prostitute. To expect sex is hope; but to expect money to change hands is what makes it prostitution.

    Which makes the OP the prostitute! Brilliant! lol
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 14, 2014 8:14 PM GMT
    If he likes it then he should put a (cock) ring on it.
  • venue35

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    Jul 15, 2014 3:22 PM GMT
    Fuzzypecs is offended that the other dude just wanted to hook up.
    I find this thread ridiculous to the point of being offensive.
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    Jul 15, 2014 10:26 PM GMT
    venue35 saidFuzzypecs is offended that the other dude just wanted to hook up.
    I find this thread ridiculous to the point of being offensive.


    I thought he was offended because the other guy thought it was free.
  • Apparition

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    Jul 17, 2014 3:55 AM GMT
    boy is OP going to be upset when he discovers glory holes and bath houses, where you dont even get to SEE the guy first, just have sex.
  • buddycat

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    Jul 17, 2014 4:05 AM GMT
    I don't understand. I would have told him I'll pass and walk away. What is all this prostitution talk? Are you a prostitute?
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    Jul 17, 2014 6:38 PM GMT
    xrichx said
    So what's the protocol for prostitutes then? You only charge money when you're not attracted to the guy?

    That's not the protocol at all. This guy was somewhat attractive, but listen to what I'm saying:

    This guy meets me at the gym. THE GYM. Mind you, I go to this gym regularly, he goes to this gym regularly. I'm not trying to be 1 of those types that every gay guy in the gym has 'had, and discarded'. This guy was really wanting nothing more than sex.

    You have to understand too, I wasn't really ASKING him for anything, but rather it was more of a parable. As in, hey...you're soliciting me like an escort, you must want to pay for one, right? To me, that's disrespectful for a guy to come to me at my gym, and come at me on some slut shit. If this was a bar or a glory hole, that's different because those are ENVIRONMENTS FOR THAT KIND OF ACTIVITY. I wouldn't go to a bathhouse or bar and EXPECT to have guys pay me, because that's not a place where people go to do that at (sometimes).

    I've said this before, and I'll say it again. It's not about money either. It all boils down to this: Too many guys don't put any value on the sex they give...so men have come to expect that gay sex should come free, with little effort to get it, and easily discarded. So, when these young kids come to me, and complain about how this or that guy fucked them a few times but doesn't want to be in a relationship....well then, you get what you ask for. You don't have to sell it, but what's wrong with putting a little value on it? Value can be monetary, committal, or simply showing a little respect to get it.