New Tattoo

  • mu1cahey

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    Jul 13, 2014 1:58 PM GMT
    Hey guys,

    I'm thinking of getting an old-school colorful phoenix half-sleeve tattoo similar to the one in this picture. What do you guys think?

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  • tj85016

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    Jul 13, 2014 2:21 PM GMT
    Why do you want a tattoo? I vote no, but it's not for me to say. It's too trendy.
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    Jul 13, 2014 2:33 PM GMT
    What does that particular tattoo mean to you? Picking a tattoo because you like the design is like having to wear the same shirt the rest of your life. Never get a tattoo because you think it will look cool (although it's okay if that's not the main priority.) A tattoo should come from a deep burning desire to commemorate an event or principle in your life.
  • Elian

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    Jul 13, 2014 2:41 PM GMT
    That tattoo looks great. In my opinion sleeves look great (even more so in fit guys) but it is better to keep them at that length so you won't have any problems to get a job. THere are still many stupid people out there that regard tattoos as unprofessional

    Though you have to be careful with colorful tattoos since the color may fade if you go swimming or get it wet often during the first month of healing. I am waiting myself until the swimming pool/beach season is over to get my first one so I might not be the best person to give advice. If it is going to be the first one Ignore the following piece of advice

    Try to make it meaningful and special for you (Maybe a phoenix with some kind of meaningful difference?). I have been thinking in the design for months and had a really good friend that now lives abroad draw it for me.

    It will probably look great on you, but take into account that it is going to be there "forever". Think about your design and its meaning, give it some time, and if in a couple of months you still want it, go for it
  • Tropicalcium

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    Jul 13, 2014 3:31 PM GMT
    I don't like tattoos and prospective employers will probably turn you away.
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    Jul 13, 2014 4:31 PM GMT
    Tropicalcium saidI don't like tattoos and prospective employers will probably turn you away.


    Turn you away? Dude....this is not 1959. Practically everyone has tattoos. I can't imagine too many instances where someone would be turned down for a job because they had a tattoo. icon_confused.gif
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    Jul 13, 2014 4:34 PM GMT
    it's pretty. i've been thinking about a tat lately but it may take me a long time to decide to actually do it, figure out what to get and where to put it. i guess i'm in research-mode icon_smile.gif

    hairyandym saidLooks painful.


    AND THAT!
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    Jul 13, 2014 4:36 PM GMT
    I like tattoos. The one the OP wants is awesome. Looks expensive and painful. LOL. For business as long as they can be covered with a suit you should have no worries. Cheers…
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    Jul 13, 2014 5:02 PM GMT
    owl_bundy said
    Scruffypup said
    Tropicalcium saidI don't like tattoos and prospective employers will probably turn you away.


    Turn you away? Dude....this is not 1959. Practically everyone has tattoos. I can't imagine too many instances where someone would be turned down for a job because they had a tattoo. icon_confused.gif


    he's right. some career fields will not hire somebody if they have tattoos. this one government job that i was going for straight up said that shit. it's an automatic disqualifier.


    I find it hard to believe it's still legal to discriminate against something like that. It's a part of their body. That's like refused to hire a women because her breasts are too small.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jul 13, 2014 5:08 PM GMT
    Old tats look like crap ... Yes, you will get old-er ... No, they don't look better when you have them re-inked ... no those colors cannot all be lasered away ... And yes surgically removing them will be painful and will leave an ugly scar... Get a decal icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jul 13, 2014 5:25 PM GMT
    Tropicalcium saidI don't like tattoos and prospective employers will probably turn you away.


    I don't like them either and it's true that more and more companies have policies that ban visible tattoos. It's not discrimination either. When you agree to work for a company you have to abide by the company rules and some have very strict dress codes. You can probably work in Wal-Mart or in blue collar job, but most office type jobs are really cracking down and require you keep them covered.

    A woman I worked with had her hair up one day not thinking and I reminded her about the tatts on the back of her neck and she put her hair down immediately. After a few warnings you're out the door. Guys with them on their upper arms, chest, back and legs are okay because they'll be covered. Lower arm tattoos you have to wear long sleeve shirts but some of the guys wear short sleeve shirts and a bandage over the tat.icon_biggrin.gif Women with them on their legs have to wear long skirts or pants.

    Anti piercing policies are in place too. Women can wear earrings, that's it. Nothing on the eyebrow, nose, lip, tongue, etc. Men can't wear any visible piercings, not even on their ears. They want you looking professional, not like some kid working in a mall store.
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    Jul 13, 2014 5:50 PM GMT
    The photo that you posted is a beautiful tattoo, and if it's something that you'd like to have done, then why would you solicit opinions regarding it?

    I like it, but it's not something that I'd have done for myself -- it just doesn't fit my lifestyle. If it's a fit for you, then go for it.

    As others have mentioned, a highly visible tattoo is going to alter other peoples perceptions of you. In my company, for example, visible tattoos and piercings disqualify one for employment. This seems to be pervasive throughout the financial services industry. Other companies may not have a formal policy, but you may be filtered out at the time of interview because they decide that you're not a good cultural fit.

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    Jul 13, 2014 6:18 PM GMT
    AlmondJoy said
    Tropicalcium saidI don't like tattoos and prospective employers will probably turn you away.


    I don't like them either and it's true that more and more companies have policies that ban visible tattoos. It's not discrimination either. When you agree to work for a company you have to abide by the company rules and some have very strict dress codes. You can probably work in Wal-Mart or in blue collar job, but most office type jobs are really cracking down and require you keep them covered.

    A woman I worked with had her hair up one day not thinking and I reminded her about the tatts on the back of her neck and she put her hair down immediately. After a few warnings you're out the door. Guys with them on their upper arms, chest, back and legs are okay because they'll be covered. Lower arm tattoos you have to wear long sleeve shirts but some of the guys wear short sleeve shirts and a bandage over the tat.icon_biggrin.gif Women with them on their legs have to wear long skirts or pants.

    Anti piercing policies are in place too. Women can wear earrings, that's it. Nothing on the eyebrow, nose, lip, tongue, etc. Men can't wear any visible piercings, not even on their ears. They want you looking professional, not like some kid working in a mall store.


    "More and more companies?" You mean less and less companies. And why are women allowed to wear earrings but men are not? Surely you can see this is unfair. I personally hate piercings but my personal opinion should not factor into who is allowed to be employed and who isn't.
  • PE_Mike

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    Jul 13, 2014 6:28 PM GMT
    23, unlimited choice, your body is a canvas... yet more depends upon the artist, than the canvas. rarely are "inkers" technically capable - or sober long enough - to 'colour trace' a masterpiece.

    Imitation is perhaps the sincerest form of flattery, but often, reproduction are less art, more caricature.

    unlike sex, its better to wait before inking.
    Only 5% of your adult life has passed: you could have deeper, original inspirations. it has been known to happen, spontaneously.

    ps: no visible tats (or piercings) at any board room meetings i recall. Or crucifix, for that matter.

    Many talisman are there, under wraps of fabric, discreetly hidden from sight in public forum, which often requires 'smaller'.
  • Elian

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    Jul 13, 2014 6:28 PM GMT
    Sadly here it also happens here in the UK, at least for nurses in the NHS. Visible tattoos disqualify you automatically apparently (and you usually wear short sleeves).

    It's archaic and stupid, but its like that.

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    Jul 13, 2014 8:03 PM GMT
    OP has a nice body. Why cover it up with ink? icon_neutral.gif

    Tattoos are cool, but I feel that young guys are getting them because they're in vogue. Same with the beard thing.

    If you decide to get a tattoo, get one that has some real meaning behind it. Don't be a trend follower.
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    Jul 13, 2014 8:05 PM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    AlmondJoy said
    Tropicalcium saidI don't like tattoos and prospective employers will probably turn you away.


    I don't like them either and it's true that more and more companies have policies that ban visible tattoos. It's not discrimination either. When you agree to work for a company you have to abide by the company rules and some have very strict dress codes. You can probably work in Wal-Mart or in blue collar job, but most office type jobs are really cracking down and require you keep them covered.

    A woman I worked with had her hair up one day not thinking and I reminded her about the tatts on the back of her neck and she put her hair down immediately. After a few warnings you're out the door. Guys with them on their upper arms, chest, back and legs are okay because they'll be covered. Lower arm tattoos you have to wear long sleeve shirts but some of the guys wear short sleeve shirts and a bandage over the tat.icon_biggrin.gif Women with them on their legs have to wear long skirts or pants.

    Anti piercing policies are in place too. Women can wear earrings, that's it. Nothing on the eyebrow, nose, lip, tongue, etc. Men can't wear any visible piercings, not even on their ears. They want you looking professional, not like some kid working in a mall store.


    "More and more companies?" You mean less and less companies. And why are women allowed to wear earrings but men are not? Surely you can see this is unfair. I personally hate piercings but my personal opinion should not factor into who is allowed to be employed and who isn't.


    I actually think it's more and more but if you can find something that says otherwise post it. It really depends on the image a company wants to convey.

    Earrings look nice on a women in the workplace, part of her attire along with their other jewelry like bracelets and necklaces. As for men, I see guys all the time wearing earrings but in many companies it's just not accepted. I don't think it's unfair because it's up to the employer to set the rules.

    If you ran a company you could write up an employee handbook and make your own rules and explain it to the potential employees during their interview. I was in a restaurant last week, which wasn't even a classy one, it was a chain, and the waiter had a blue band going halfway down his arm to hide his tat. There are a lot of companies now that will ask if you smoke and will run a nicotine test along with other drug tests before officially hiring you.
  • 1AlanZSky

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    Jul 13, 2014 8:06 PM GMT
    Elian saidSadly here it also happens here in the UK, at least for nurses in the NHS. Visible tattoos disqualify you automatically apparently (and you usually wear short sleeves).

    It's archaic and stupid, but its like that.



    I also hate tattoos. Covering up a beautiful body makes it look ugly. Up to you, but I despise it. Getting a tattoo means you are more likely to infect others or get infected yourself.
  • 1AlanZSky

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    Jul 13, 2014 8:12 PM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    Tropicalcium saidI don't like tattoos and prospective employers will probably turn you away.


    Turn you away? Dude....this is not 1959. Practically everyone has tattoos. I can't imagine too many instances where someone would be turned down for a job because they had a tattoo. icon_confused.gif


    Emergency/public services do not want employees want visible tattoos.

    Another example:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2685758/Consultant-sacked-bosses-discovered-butterfly-tattoo-foot-didnt-comply-firms-professional-image.html

    Having a tattoo is a personal choice. It is not a matter of discrimination because it is a choice you took. It is not a disability and you can do your job with or without a tattoo. A professional image is one where your personal life should not be included in your job.
  • 1AlanZSky

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    Jul 13, 2014 8:14 PM GMT
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/benefits-britain-star-hitler-ku-3845325

    Now this person is probably stupid. NeoNazi tattoos??
  • 1AlanZSky

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    Jul 13, 2014 8:17 PM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    owl_bundy said
    Scruffypup said
    Tropicalcium saidI don't like tattoos and prospective employers will probably turn you away.


    Turn you away? Dude....this is not 1959. Practically everyone has tattoos. I can't imagine too many instances where someone would be turned down for a job because they had a tattoo. icon_confused.gif


    he's right. some career fields will not hire somebody if they have tattoos. this one government job that i was going for straight up said that shit. it's an automatic disqualifier.


    I find it hard to believe it's still legal to discriminate against something like that. It's a part of their body. That's like refused to hire a women because her breasts are too small.



    Part of their body?? You chose to have it done! It is put on you and it is your choice. It is definitely NOT part of your body. You are not born with it. Your analogy with the breasts is flawed. Women are born with breasts (puberty). You are not born with tattoos. Tattoos are not part of your biology.
  • mu1cahey

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    Jul 13, 2014 8:30 PM GMT
    Just for clarity, I'm not worried about "finding a job" because of my tattoos. I work in the financial industry and there are plenty of people who have tattoos - visible or not. The tattoo in question is a half-sleeve and would easily covered up with a long-sleeve, button up shirt, if needed.

    Additionally, of course the tattoo would have meaning to me, otherwise I wouldn't be getting it. Why permanently scar your body if it doesn't have any significance to you?

    Just my 2 cents.
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    Jul 13, 2014 8:53 PM GMT
    1AlanZSky said
    Scruffypup said
    owl_bundy said
    Scruffypup said
    Tropicalcium saidI don't like tattoos and prospective employers will probably turn you away.


    Turn you away? Dude....this is not 1959. Practically everyone has tattoos. I can't imagine too many instances where someone would be turned down for a job because they had a tattoo. icon_confused.gif


    he's right. some career fields will not hire somebody if they have tattoos. this one government job that i was going for straight up said that shit. it's an automatic disqualifier.


    I find it hard to believe it's still legal to discriminate against something like that. It's a part of their body. That's like refused to hire a women because her breasts are too small.



    Part of their body?? You chose to have it done! It is put on you and it is your choice. It is definitely NOT part of your body. You are not born with it. Your analogy with the breasts is flawed. Women are born with breasts (puberty). You are not born with tattoos. Tattoos are not part of your biology.


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    I doubt this woman was born with silicone in her chest either. Try explaining to her that those are not "part of her body" just because she choose to have them installed. And try refusing to hire her based on that and see how fast you get your ass sued! You're not allowed to discriminate based on age, gender, disability, national origin, pregnancy and a number of other categories. So unless they change those existing laws, I see no reason why people with tattoos should be fair game for discrimination.
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    Jul 13, 2014 9:00 PM GMT
    Elian saidSadly here it also happens here in the UK, at least for nurses in the NHS. Visible tattoos disqualify you automatically apparently (and you usually wear short sleeves).

    It's archaic and stupid, but its like that.



    nah, this isn't true, I work as a doctor in the UK, seen lot of nurses with tats on their arms. I know one male nurse with sleeves on both arms, and a doctor!! We always chat tattoos and he brought in a tat book so I can choose one! he was so nice
  • 1AlanZSky

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    Jul 13, 2014 10:18 PM GMT
    http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/11/ink-twice-do-celebrities-and-footballers-own-their-tattoos-4793604/

    Do you own your tattoo, or does that tattoo artist?

    quote:The question of tattoo ownership has not yet been fully tested inside a courtroom, but legal experts say the artist has a solid claim on the copyright as the author of the work.