This Texas Man Had The Perfect Response When Obama Asked Him If He Was Gay

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    Jul 14, 2014 2:40 AM GMT
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/texas-man-had-perfect-response-160009918.html

    "Equal rights for gay people!" Webb declared.
    "Are you gay?" asked Obama.
    "Only when I have sex," Webb quipped.

    "If Rick Perry would've walked in, I would have lost my job. I would've taken that old queen to town," Webb said icon_lol.gif


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    Jul 14, 2014 4:28 PM GMT
    I think it was the worst response ever because it ties up everything about being gay and associating it solely with our genitals.

    Are heterosexuals only heterosexual when they have sex?

    I think not.

    I am gay with every fiber of my being. How do I know this? Because I couldn't change it if I tried and lord knows I tried. It IS who I am. Is it solely who I am? No, of course not, but it is an integral part of me.
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    Jul 14, 2014 4:40 PM GMT
    ^^
    maybe just for him :s
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    Jul 14, 2014 4:45 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidI think it was the worst response ever because it ties up everything about being gay and associating it solely with our genitals.


    i can see that, but it looks like they were laughing and it sounds like a funny joke too, so maybe that's all it was.

    and really, the people that already think that of us can't be helped anyway. fuck 'em icon_smile.gif
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    Jul 14, 2014 4:59 PM GMT
    I still contend it wasn't the "perfect" response. It was an off-the-cuff, witty response at best.
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    Jul 14, 2014 5:04 PM GMT
    gay only when I have sex = straight in the rest of my life, that you'd never think I was gay

    I really don't have a problem with that response. For the most part it describes me, too.

    Or as my gay mentor told me 20 years ago, the magic words that helped me come out of my denial: "Being gay isn't about behavior & appearance, it's merely about which sex attracts you."
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    Jul 14, 2014 5:29 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidgay only when I have sex = straight in the rest of my life, that you'd never think I was gay Really?! I thought you've said you've dressed in drag? You weren't gay then too?

    I really don't have a problem with that response. For the most part it describes me, too. Confused.

    Or as my gay mentor told me 20 years ago, the magic words that helped me come out of my denial: "Being gay isn't about behavior & appearance, it's merely about which sex attracts you."


    But his attempt at a witty response says just EXACTLY the opposite: We are only gay when we fuck/have sex (a behavior). You just admitted that you don't agree with him.
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    Jul 14, 2014 5:44 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco saidgay only when I have sex = straight in the rest of my life, that you'd never think I was gay Really?! I thought you've said you've dressed in drag? You weren't gay then too?

    I really don't have a problem with that response. For the most part it describes me, too. Confused.

    Or as my gay mentor told me 20 years ago, the magic words that helped me come out of my denial: "Being gay isn't about behavior & appearance, it's merely about which sex attracts you."


    But his attempt at a witty response says just EXACTLY the opposite: We are only gay when we fuck/have sex (a behavior). You just admitted that you don't agree with him.

    My dressing in drag was a fun exception, among my gay friends.

    I doubt most straights would know I'm gay. Not that I disguise it, but neither does my behavior conform to their stereotypes of what a gay man is. Nor, from my observation, do most gay men fit that stereotype.

    I just commented on this to a gay guy I know, at a gay networking mixer we both attended last week. I was struck by how absolutely straight these 70+ guys, and a few lesbians, looked. He agreed. You could have dropped us anywhere, into any setting, and the assumption would be that we were straight. Certainly not gay by appearance or behavior.

    The whole idea of a "gay" look is largely obsolete. Not unless we choose to camp it up, which I admit I sometimes do for fun, even drag (although not for many years now, too old). In our daily lives gay hardly exists.
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    Jul 14, 2014 6:21 PM GMT
    ^ But you skirted my point.

    He (Mr. Webb) basically boiled down gayness to a genital act (sex).

    "Are you gay?" asked Obama.
    "Only when I have sex," Webb quipped.

    And you:

    ...my gay mentor told me 20 years ago, the magic words that helped me come out of my denial: "Being gay isn't about behavior & appearance, it's merely about which sex attracts you." So you really don't agree with his statement.

    And Mr. Webb isn't gay "only when [he] has sex" because he obviously wouldn't have brought up equal rights for gays when he wasn't having sex. It (his gayness) is obviously on his mind at other times, so he is NOT only aware of his homosexuality when having sex.
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    UndercoverMan said^ But you skirted my point.

    He (Mr. Webb) basically boiled down gayness to a genital act (sex).

    "Are you gay?" asked Obama.
    "Only when I have sex," Webb quipped.

    And you:

    ...my gay mentor told me 20 years ago, the magic words that helped me come out of my denial: "Being gay isn't about behavior & appearance, it's merely about which sex attracts you." So you really don't agree with his statement.

    And Mr. Webb isn't gay "only when [he] has sex" because he obviously wouldn't have brought up equal rights for gays when he wasn't having sex. It (his gayness) is obviously on his mind at other times, so he is NOT only aware of his homosexuality when having sex.


    I think your missing the context:

    "When Obama went up to pay at Austin's famous Franklin Barbecue, the Chronicle reported Webb, who was working the cash register, "threw his hand down and slapped the counter dramatically."

    "Equal rights for gay people!" Webb declared."

    Webb's first comment was about Gay Rights, and in a VERY dramatic fashion! Pretty aggressive to a President I might add! But even that was done self-mockingly. Otherwise the SS would have been on him.

    Doing that I can safely say he's a Gay Activist first and foremost. Obama got that...so did the Secret Service.
    "Only when I have sex" was a throw away line from Comedian who does DRAG. Obama already knew he was Gay....look

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    The irony is that Webb knows he looks Gay, acts Gay. He's 100% Gay all the time. As an activist, by reducing it down to just that one element made it ironic and funny!!!!
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    Hello, the man does drag, he was camping it up with the pres icon_lol.gif
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    UndercoverMan said^ But you skirted my point.

    He (Mr. Webb) basically boiled down gayness to a genital act (sex).

    "Are you gay?" asked Obama.
    "Only when I have sex," Webb quipped.

    And you:

    ...my gay mentor told me 20 years ago, the magic words that helped me come out of my denial: "Being gay isn't about behavior & appearance, it's merely about which sex attracts you." So you really don't agree with his statement.

    And Mr. Webb isn't gay "only when [he] has sex" because he obviously wouldn't have brought up equal rights for gays when he wasn't having sex. It (his gayness) is obviously on his mind at other times, so he is NOT only aware of his homosexuality when having sex.

    You're over analyzing. What he meant was "I''m only gay when I choose to act gay,"

    Leave it at that.
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    Jul 14, 2014 7:29 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    UndercoverMan said^ But you skirted my point.

    He (Mr. Webb) basically boiled down gayness to a genital act (sex).

    "Are you gay?" asked Obama.
    "Only when I have sex," Webb quipped.

    And you:

    ...my gay mentor told me 20 years ago, the magic words that helped me come out of my denial: "Being gay isn't about behavior & appearance, it's merely about which sex attracts you." So you really don't agree with his statement.

    And Mr. Webb isn't gay "only when [he] has sex" because he obviously wouldn't have brought up equal rights for gays when he wasn't having sex. It (his gayness) is obviously on his mind at other times, so he is NOT only aware of his homosexuality when having sex.

    You're over analyzing. What he meant was "I''m only gay when I choose to act gay,"

    Leave it at that.


    So are you and he saying gay is a choice? If he was having sex with a woman he's be straight? Bullshit!

    Words have meaning in and out of context. They can help or hinder our cause. Words and how they are used are important.

    And that's how I'll leave it.
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    Jul 14, 2014 7:36 PM GMT
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    UndercoverMan said^


    I think your missing the context:

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    The irony is that Webb knows he looks Gay, acts Gay. He's 100% Gay all the time. As an activist, by reducing it down to just that one element made it ironic and funny!!!!


    I see your point. I still do not agree that it was the "perfect response" for the reasons I've already cited.
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    Jul 14, 2014 10:26 PM GMT
    I really see no problem with his response. It actually hashes the whole concept out in the best way. Being gay has nothing to do with the car you drive, the clothes you wear, how you talk, what music you like or anything like that. The ONLY thing that "gay" truly has ANYTHING to do with is whether you take to bed a dude or a chick. Anything other than that is a generalization and a stereotype.
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    Jul 14, 2014 11:11 PM GMT
    I think the joke was supposed to go, "No, but my boyfriend is." I think he just biffed the joke, that's all. I mean, there's the President, your heart is pounding, you're running six or seven gags through your head wondering which one will get a laugh and which one will goad the Secret Service into slamming you into the deep fryer. A little choke, but an awesome response from the President who won't be flummoxed.
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    Jul 15, 2014 12:03 AM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidI think it was the worst response ever because it ties up everything about being gay and associating it solely with our genitals.

    Are heterosexuals only heterosexual when they have sex?

    I think not.

    I am gay with every fiber of my being. How do I know this? Because I couldn't change it if I tried and lord knows I tried. It IS who I am. Is it solely who I am? No, of course not, but it is an integral part of me.


    While I understand the point you're trying to make, I interpret Webb's response as meaning that he's a person, no different than any other person, except that he's attracted to the same gender.

    Isn't that the ideal of equality -- we are united by our many similarities (he's a person) and accepted with our few differences (he's gay)?
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    Jul 15, 2014 12:08 AM GMT
    What do you expect, the guy is from Texas. Most Texans don't play with a full deck. Most of them have empty space between their ears.
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    roadbikeRob saidWhat do you expect, the guy is from Texas. Most Texans don't play with a full deck. Most of them have empty space between their ears.


    Wow, you're fun to hang out with, I'll bet.
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    RoadsterRacer87 saidI really see no problem with his response. It actually hashes the whole concept out in the best way. Being gay has nothing to do with the car you drive, the clothes you wear, how you talk, what music you like or anything like that. The ONLY thing that "gay" truly has ANYTHING to do with is whether you take to bed a dude or a chick. Anything other than that is a generalization and a stereotype.


    WRONG! You can still be gay or straight without taking anyone to bed! YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE SEXUALLY ACTIVE TO HAVE A SEXUAL ORIENTATION!

    We are more than just what we do with our genitalia.
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    Jul 15, 2014 2:26 AM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    UndercoverMan said^ But you skirted my point.

    He (Mr. Webb) basically boiled down gayness to a genital act (sex).

    "Are you gay?" asked Obama.
    "Only when I have sex," Webb quipped.

    And you:

    ...my gay mentor told me 20 years ago, the magic words that helped me come out of my denial: "Being gay isn't about behavior & appearance, it's merely about which sex attracts you." So you really don't agree with his statement.

    And Mr. Webb isn't gay "only when [he] has sex" because he obviously wouldn't have brought up equal rights for gays when he wasn't having sex. It (his gayness) is obviously on his mind at other times, so he is NOT only aware of his homosexuality when having sex.

    You're over analyzing. What he meant was "I''m only gay when I choose to act gay,"

    Leave it at that.

    So are you and he saying gay is a choice? If he was having sex with a woman he's be straight? Bullshit!

    Words have meaning in and out of context. They can help or hinder our cause. Words and how they are used are important.

    And that's how I'll leave it.

    He said nothing that implies choice. You're being an overreactive queen. Chill out, hun. Go back and read what I posted. And what he actually wrote. As I said, stop over-analyizing a problem that doesn't exist. And being such a contrary, bitchy queen. Which does more damage to us than anything this guy said. icon_razz.gif
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    Jul 15, 2014 2:48 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    UndercoverMan said
    Art_Deco said
    UndercoverMan said^ But you skirted my point.

    He (Mr. Webb) basically boiled down gayness to a genital act (sex).

    "Are you gay?" asked Obama.
    "Only when I have sex," Webb quipped.

    And you:

    ...my gay mentor told me 20 years ago, the magic words that helped me come out of my denial: "Being gay isn't about behavior & appearance, it's merely about which sex attracts you." So you really don't agree with his statement.

    And Mr. Webb isn't gay "only when [he] has sex" because he obviously wouldn't have brought up equal rights for gays when he wasn't having sex. It (his gayness) is obviously on his mind at other times, so he is NOT only aware of his homosexuality when having sex.

    You're over analyzing. What he meant was "I''m only gay when I choose to act gay,"

    Leave it at that.

    So are you and he saying gay is a choice? If he was having sex with a woman he's be straight? Bullshit!

    Words have meaning in and out of context. They can help or hinder our cause. Words and how they are used are important.

    And that's how I'll leave it.

    He said nothing that implies choice. You're being an overreactive queen. Chill out, hun. Go back and read what I posted. And what he actually wrote. As I said, stop over-analyizing a problem that doesn't exist. And being such a contrary, bitchy queen. Which does more damage to us than anything this guy said. icon_razz.gif


    When they run out of rational arguments those lacking intellect resort to ad hominem attacks. Bitchy queen? You need to look in a mirror, Mary.

    Yeah, you act like a man. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
  • whytehot

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    Jul 15, 2014 2:54 AM GMT
    So tired of queens like the one here who thinks that being gay requires more than just liking dudes. I can do without the full membership card package, pride pilgrimages, open relationships, foam parties, dark rooms, STD's etc...
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    Jul 15, 2014 3:00 AM GMT
    whytehot saidSo tired of queens like the one here who thinks that being gay requires more than just liking dudes. I can do without the full membership card package, pride pilgrimages, open relationships, foam parties, dark rooms, STD's etc...


    Speaking of bitchy queens look who reared its ugly head. And for the record I have never been on a pride pilgrimage, had an open relationship, been to a foam or a dark room party, or had an STD, etc. The one thing I'm not is ashamed that I'm gay.

    I find it interesting that: "Been out for just over a year. Hoping to catch up on insights about gay life and gay social "conventions". Hoping to meet quality people, but somewhat pessimistic here."

    May I suggest that if you are hoping to meet quality people you might try being one. Quality people don't name call in a civil, adult conversation.
  • Behram

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    Jul 15, 2014 6:04 AM GMT
    I think its the best response. Cause it means, to me, that equal rights for gay people cause they are equal to others. And if someone denies them their equal rights because of their sexual orientation, its none of their business because having sex is a personal issue. So no discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation which is a personal thing - that's the message. What's wrong in that?