Keeping up appearances is something most gay men excel at isn't it. What if those guys with a more active sex life,kinky and fetish lovers let the non-gay world know what your views & practices were would they view you in a different light?!!

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    Jul 14, 2014 1:58 PM GMT
    Gay men (majority but with some exceptions of course)like to lead the general public to we aren't hyper sexual, yet gay culture encourages rampant promiscuity, while trying to create an illusion gay men are just as serious about their LTR as are hetro couples
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    Jul 14, 2014 2:01 PM GMT
  • MikeW

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    Jul 14, 2014 2:40 PM GMT
    You really think that straight men don't "keep up appearances"? You really think gay men have more fetishes and "kinky" sexual tastes than straight people?


    Marquis de Sade, anyone?

    How is "gay culture" different from "straight culture"?

    Seriously. What are we talking about, really?

    For a very, very long time now (like, since ancient Rome), gay marriage has not existed--and even then (given Roman morals) it was not a union between two social equals. (Most often it was between a dominant freeman and a submissive slave.) Throughout most of the intervening (and preceding) history, sexual relations between two men a) were an expression of social dominance and b) had to be kept on the down-low. In most societies it was considered such an abomination that one could be executed for engaging in it--especially in the passive role--and even more especially if you were an aristocrat or free-man in the passive role. Total no no.

    In the last century homosexuality as a subculture began to 'come out of the closet' and express itself more openly to the dominant straight society. It was now *seen* as a) existing, b) not something that is going to go away or go back to being hidden, suppressed and oppressed and c) being a *social force* demanding equal legal rights with heterosexuals.

    We have made great strides in the past hundred years. Something historically unprecedented. We recognize *ourselves* as being a oppressed class: Not having the same legal rights as other men and women to engage in adult (kinks and all) sexuality without the threat of persecution, and to build lasting relationships with our peers that are recognized by the law.

    "Gay culture" can not be taken as separate from the history of gay people and that is a history of oppression. Not only a history of sexual repression, but a history of social oppression: Of being kept "in our place" which was hidden, out of sight, out of mind, and if need be in the dungeons of society where (according to 'them') we belonged.

    Would they view us in a different light if they knew all our sexual proclivities? Would we view them in a different light if we knew all THEIR proclivities? Probably. But so what?

    As a general rule men and women of any orientation don't go around announcing their sexual tastes to everyone else. It is generally *not done* in polite society.

    So, what is your point?

    That somehow gays are more perverted than straights? Seriously?? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jul 14, 2014 2:52 PM GMT
    I think some of the backlash against the marriage equality movement from within the queer community is related to this: Due to our historic "outsider" or "other" status, we were able to be freer with our sexual expression because "polite" society already labeled us as deviants.

    Now with the HRC crowd working so hard to convince non-queer America that "We're just like you" there is a backlash from gay people who don't want monogamy, kids, picket fence, etc.
  • SilverRRCloud

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    Jul 26, 2014 5:30 PM GMT
    Flaunting your sexual proclivities in public probably indicates that you may have little else to show. For some guys this is just fine. For the others, not so.

    I see hardly any difference in this kind of behavior between gay and str8 people. If a dude needs to flaunt it, most likely, something is really wrong...