Has anyone else noticed: The lack of proper oral hygiene with so many gay men?

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    Jul 16, 2014 7:04 AM GMT
    Being that this is 'gay men's health', I might as well spill the beans.

    It amazes me when I go out 'daytime drinking', and you see people you thought could pass for cute at night, but in the light of day, you look at their teeth and feel repulsed. Some people have thick, yellow tartar built up in between their gumline and lower teeth, or it looks like they've never once whitened their teeth. Yet, they don't seem to notice or give a damn 1 bit. Like what the FUCK?

    I will say, my teeth haven't always been perfect either. I spent over 10 years with a chipped front tooth (not a little one, it was chipped all the way to the dentin and made it look like I was missing a tooth), which overtime eroded my confidence. However, I still kept up with my dental hygiene: brushing daily, flossing, the occasional mouthwash. I eventually got tired of the criticism, possible health consequences, and lost opportunities and got enough money together to get my 1 tooth fixed, but which ended up being 2 teeth which was in the ballpark of $1,800 after exams, root canals, deep cleaning, and 2 crowns. However, all my other teeth needed nothing but the regular cleaning. After that procedure, I noticed a big improvement in how people treated me.

    I'm not bragging here. I know dental work is crazy expensive, sometimes intimidating. But I can hardly have a conversation with someone who's oral hygiene is lacking. I was talking to a friend at a bar, and his gums literally started bleeding...and he says, "oh it's just gingivitis" As if it didn't mean shit. I'm like dude, that's disgusting.

    I also notice many guys will just pass out in bed, without brushing their teeth. I'm not going to even discuss the implications of doing that, but it's gross. And the manual toothbrushes? Throw those things away! That's old-school. I switched to electric toothbrush years ago ($7 spinbrush), and using a regular toothbrush feels like shit.

    Let's sign the petition, and get the word out, start marching! Fuck gay marriage, let's campaign for gay oral hygiene! This isn't a money issue, this is an awareness issue. You only get 1 set of teeth. Don't neglect what God gave you for free, only to spend thousands on fabricated versions.
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    Jul 16, 2014 3:37 PM GMT
    If a guy has poor hygiene at the beginning of his digestive tract definitely won't be going anywhere near the other end of it. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Jul 16, 2014 4:04 PM GMT
    It's definitely a problem but I honestly don't run into it that often. What I find to be (almost) as big a turn-off is when a guy has what I call "paper teeth." Meaning he has bleached his teeth to the point they're white as a piece of paper. Hate that!
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    Jul 16, 2014 4:24 PM GMT
    I know it's not fair (or accurate) to generalize, but I have to say, many of the gay guys I know or see have as good or better dental hygiene than straight guys. With that being said, many gay guys take better care of themselves than straight guys. (NOT saying ALL).
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    Jul 16, 2014 4:33 PM GMT
    I have to agree with Jockbod.
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    Jul 16, 2014 4:46 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidIt's definitely a problem but I honestly don't run into it that often. What I find to be (almost) as big a turn-off is when a guy has what I call "paper teeth." Meaning he has bleached his teeth to the point they're white as a piece of paper. Hate that!


    +1

    So fake and ridiculous looking.
  • courtnyou

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    Jul 16, 2014 5:16 PM GMT
    i hate the overpowering smell of mouthwash, especially Listerine. yuck.
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    Jul 16, 2014 5:42 PM GMT
    The reality of toothbrushes is that if your technique is good a quality manual is more than sufficient. Electric toothbrushes are a specialty item that let's people save a minute or two on their morning routine and makes parents think their kids teeth are safer. Electric toothbrushes ARE good, but nothing can overcome a lack of technique.

    That being said, bad breath, slime in the corners (forget the name) and visible plaque buildup are incredibly unattractive. I work in an office so I get coffee breath and I understand it but if you show up to a date with it that's a no-no.
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    Jul 16, 2014 5:44 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan said
    Scruffypup saidIt's definitely a problem but I honestly don't run into it that often. What I find to be (almost) as big a turn-off is when a guy has what I call "paper teeth." Meaning he has bleached his teeth to the point they're white as a piece of paper. Hate that!


    +1

    So fake and ridiculous looking.


    I always tell people that there is a very simple way to identify your ideal shade of white. Your teeth should be as white as your eye whites ideally. People with yellowed eye whites are ok to go whiter but too much calls attention to the eyes
  • blueandgold

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    Jul 16, 2014 6:12 PM GMT
    FuzzyPecs25 saidBeing that this is 'gay men's health', I might as well spill the beans.

    It amazes me when... or it looks like they've never once whitened their teeth.


    The nerve of them!
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 16, 2014 6:14 PM GMT
    It's important to take care of your gums for health reasons. However, whitening and/or straightening teeth is merely cosmetic, and sometimes I think it makes people look like aliens. I've also noticed that slightly crooked natural-looking teeth adds more character to a smile than the same ol' uniform straight teeth everyone who ever had braces seems to have. I remember in the 90s, people made fun of the singer Jewel for having crooked teeth, but with shows like "Madmen" influencing trends, I think having crooked teeth has become fashionable, because each crooked smile is unique.icon_razz.gif
  • brickboy1966

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    Jul 16, 2014 7:02 PM GMT
    Another case of bullying.
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    Jul 16, 2014 7:12 PM GMT
    Hhhmmmm I'm sure they are aware of the status of their hygiene. Maybe you walk in on the wrong time? icon_neutral.gif its fun brushing your teeth! Ruba dub dub scrubb scrubb!!! ^-^ its crucial to brush them 3 times a day icon_surprised.gif
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jul 16, 2014 7:31 PM GMT
    You lost me at "when I go out 'daytime drinking'" icon_confused.gif
  • ursa_minor

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    Jul 16, 2014 8:26 PM GMT
    I don't need an electronic toothbrush. I had one before but I stopped using it since I can't find hard bristles in the market. Perhaps I brush good enough, manually.
  • Elian

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    Jul 16, 2014 8:36 PM GMT
    I have not really experienced that. I have met a few guys with really stinky breath (which is pretty obvious when you meet someone into a pub with loud music and you need to be close to hear each other). It doesn't matter how hot the guy is, that's a complete turn off.

    That's why I am always eating mints when I go out icon_razz.gif
  • FRE0

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    Jul 16, 2014 9:47 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidIt's important to take care of your gums for health reasons. However, whitening and/or straightening teeth is merely cosmetic, and sometimes I think it makes people look like aliens. I've also noticed that slightly crooked natural-looking teeth adds more character to a smile than the same ol' uniform straight teeth everyone who ever had braces seems to have. I remember in the 90s, people made fun of the singer Jewel for having crooked teeth, but with shows like "Madmen" influencing trends, I think having crooked teeth has become fashionable, because each crooked smile is unique.icon_razz.gif


    My parents paid for orthodontia work. Are you suggesting that I should have it reversed?
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    Jul 16, 2014 9:49 PM GMT
    Elian saidI have not really experienced that. I have met a few guys with really stinky breath (which is pretty obvious when you meet someone into a pub with loud music and you need to be close to hear each other). It doesn't matter how hot the guy is, that's a complete turn off.

    That's why I am always eating mints when I go out icon_razz.gif


    Smoker's breath is the worst.
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    Jul 16, 2014 10:25 PM GMT
    I dunno, I thought gay guys have pretty good teeth, and oral hygiene.

    The one glaring exception is guys who smoke - yellow teeth and ashtray breath. But that's true for straights, as well.

    No, I think gay guys on average are very conscious of their "presentation", to include their teeth and their breath.
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 16, 2014 10:25 PM GMT
    FRE0 said
    HottJoe saidIt's important to take care of your gums for health reasons. However, whitening and/or straightening teeth is merely cosmetic, and sometimes I think it makes people look like aliens. I've also noticed that slightly crooked natural-looking teeth adds more character to a smile than the same ol' uniform straight teeth everyone who ever had braces seems to have. I remember in the 90s, people made fun of the singer Jewel for having crooked teeth, but with shows like "Madmen" influencing trends, I think having crooked teeth has become fashionable, because each crooked smile is unique.icon_razz.gif


    My parents paid for orthodontia work. Are you suggesting that I should have it reversed?

    No. But nowadays so many people seem to have a uniform smile. Eventually, I started noticing that people with quirky-looking smiles sometimes have more character/expression in their faces.

    Remember when people used to say that no two snowflakes are alike? That's how smiles should be. It's like we've taken all the different shapes of snowflakes and turned them into smooth-edged circles that all look the same.
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    Jul 17, 2014 12:35 AM GMT
    ursa_minor saidI don't need an electronic toothbrush. I had one before but I stopped using it since I can't find hard bristles in the market. Perhaps I brush good enough, manually.


    I think they do not make "hard bristles" for the sonicare and similar because the brush action on those is so robust you don't need anything else.

    OK fellas, top this: when I lived in San Diego I went over the border to TJ, Mexico and had a crown replaced for $175, versus the US price at the time of $850 (currently $1250)......has lasted 15 yrs or so and no end in sight. The San Diego paper used to run ads for TJ dentists, and their signage is commonplace when you go over to shop, etc. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Jul 17, 2014 5:15 AM GMT
    I'm on board with you about practicing good oral hygiene.

    I was late to the game though because as youngsters, my siblings and I brushed only once a day in the morning.

    As I've learned now, going to bed without brushing wreaks havoc on your teeth and sex life. What!!?? My ex used to go to bed without brushing his teeth. He'd wake up with a mouth that smelled like a sewer proposing oral sex. I was afraid I would lose my business down here if I allowed him to.
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    Jul 17, 2014 6:43 AM GMT
    yay

    more hygiene! icon_biggrin.gif

    2 crowns for under 2k and erything? :s

    who is your dentist icon_surprised.gif
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    Jul 17, 2014 3:03 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidIt's definitely a problem but I honestly don't run into it that often. What I find to be (almost) as big a turn-off is when a guy has what I call "paper teeth." Meaning he has bleached his teeth to the point they're white as a piece of paper. Hate that!


    I have a friend who has super neon white teeth. They glow. It does not look natural at all…
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    Jul 17, 2014 3:19 PM GMT
    Regarding stiff toothbrush bristles: I read years ago that medium to soft actually cleans best, and is also better for the gums. We're only cleaning out teeth, not scrubbing a baked casserole dish. Soft bristles conform better to the shape of the teeth, especially the molars. A good toothpaste provides all the abrasive action you need.

    What I've used for several years now are 1-piece disposable electrics. They last about 6 months, and when the battery dies it's time to replace them for the brush, anyway. Worn bristles more than anything is where we end up using ineffective toothbrushes.

    Most disposable electrics are as slender as a standard toothbrush, doesn't feel like you're holding a clumsy baseball bat. No worry about finding the right brand of replacement brush head, or recharging them. It's really like having a regular brush.