Federal Court Directs Texas To Offer A Confederate Flag License Plate

  • metta

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    Jul 16, 2014 12:33 PM GMT
    Federal Court Directs Texas To Offer A Confederate Flag License Plate


    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/federal_court_confederate_flag_license_plate
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    Jul 16, 2014 12:53 PM GMT
    The article asks: "Does this mean Texas must now offer a LGBT plate?"

    Only if you want your tires shot out. But I'll give you 2 other examples where this may have a wide impact, if upheld.

    When I lived in North Dakota I was considering a custom (vanity) plate for my motorcycle. Their state motor vehicle dept. has a website where you can create your proposed plate online. The program produces a very realistic, almost photographic image of what your plate would look like. Then you submit it, and if the plate's available, or not barred for offensive or sexually suggestive content, you proceed to the next step to buy it.

    But a disclaimer does warn that all plate requests are reviewed at their main office, and the online program alone does not guarantee you can have it. So I tried several plates with GAY on them, and they all went through! But suspicious, I phoned their office, so as not to waste my time.

    When I told them what I wanted, the lady instantly said: "Oh, no, we would never approve that."

    "Why not? It's not obscene, and isn't barred by your list of proscribed plates."

    "Yes, but people would object, and complain to us."

    I didn't get my plate. Was my "freedom of speech" violated, according to the Federal Court ruling? Second example in my next post.
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    Jul 16, 2014 1:09 PM GMT
    Here in Florida you can have several different plate background designs that have a pro-life anti-abortion message. And in this state a portion of the money from specialty plate sales goes to the organization with which it's associated. In this case, anti-abortion groups.

    Groups can petition for a new plate design, and we currently have nearly 100, representing every major state sports team, all the major universities, different kinds of recreational activities, wildlife, military services, etc, etc. Sometimes on the road no 2 Florida plates look alike.

    But when a pro-abortion group submitted a plate design it was rejected. "Too political" was one of the lame excuses. But of course anti-abortion isn't political, as we all know. The anti-abortion message is a "deeply held personal belief." Like pro-abortion isn't?

    This decision was made by the State Legislature, which has final approval authority, and upheld by the State Supreme Court when a lawsuit was brought. I wonder if it would now be in danger with the Federal Court ruling, equating this to a freedom of speech right? We're not in their jurisdiction, nor do I know if our own Federal Circuit has addressed the issue. If it goes to the US Supreme Court (perhaps not in my lifetime) Florida's decision may be reversed.
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    Jul 16, 2014 1:17 PM GMT
    This definitely comes into the "Careful what you wish for" category. Texas was once part of Mexico too, was it not?

    And of course the KKK can claim to have a long heritage as well.
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    Jul 16, 2014 1:30 PM GMT
    ShiftyJK08 saidThis definitely comes into the "Careful what you wish for" category. Texas was once part of Mexico too, was it not?

    And of course the KKK can claim to have a long heritage as well.

    In many ways the Confederacy doesn't mean as much to Texans as it does to people in other states, like Georgia. What Texans revere is their own state flag, which is based on the Republic of Texas flag, when Texas was briefly an independent country following its rebellion against Mexico.

    That Republic of Texas mentality, with that state flag everywhere, is partly what I think makes Texans believe they are so special and independent from the rest of the US. If you think the states of the Old South act like they're still in the Confederacy, Texans act like they're still a separate country. I'm not sure how many will swap their Republic of Texas flag for the Confederate battle flag.
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    Jul 16, 2014 1:39 PM GMT
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    ShiftyJK08 saidThis definitely comes into the "Careful what you wish for" category. Texas was once part of Mexico too, was it not?

    And of course the KKK can claim to have a long heritage as well.

    In many ways the Confederacy doesn't mean as much to Texans as it does to people in other states, like Georgia. What Texans revere is their own state flag, which is based on the Republic of Texas flag, when Texas was briefly an independent country following its rebellion against Mexico.

    That Republic of Texas mentality, with that state flag everywhere, is partly what I think makes Texans believe they are so special and independent from the rest of the US. If you think the states of the Old South act like they're still in the Confederacy, Texans act like they're still a separate country. I'm not sure how many will swap their Republic of Texas flag for the Confederate battle flag.


    Is that what's on the generic TX license plate? If so, why are they asking for this one? Is the Republic one not pissing off enough Yankees?
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    Jul 16, 2014 2:00 PM GMT
    ShiftyJK08 said
    Is that what's on the generic TX license plate? If so, why are they asking for this one? Is the Republic one not pissing off enough Yankees?

    The Texas general-issue license plate (or tag) has changed a number of times over the years. When I was a resident in the 1980s we had the actual state flag on it. Then there was one where the state outline was "cut" from the flag, so you could still see its 3 colors. That one's recently been withdrawn for a very simple black & white (called the "Texas Classic"), with no color and no flag, just the "Lone Star" of Texas, the state's nickname, another reminder of the Republic. However, the justification is that police prefer the ease of reading it. Plus people can still get the colorful specialty plates, which police do not like.

    And as for pissing off Yankees, I think most Americans don't even know what the Texas state flag represents. They just see it as another state flag, and several states display theirs, too. But Texans know.
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    Jul 16, 2014 5:16 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidAnd as for pissing off Yankees, I think most Americans don't even know what the Texas state flag represents. They just see it as another state flag, and several states display theirs, too. But Texans know.


    The car dealer put a TX state flag badge on the back of our new car. I didn't love it but I thought it was less offensive than a dealer name so I didn't demand its removal. I'm not sure I want to know its history now :/

    Plus, gay dudes are driving around soiling the meaning of it in their gay, gay car. Bahahaha.
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    Jul 16, 2014 5:51 PM GMT
    JackBoneTX said
    Art_Deco saidAnd as for pissing off Yankees, I think most Americans don't even know what the Texas state flag represents. They just see it as another state flag, and several states display theirs, too. But Texans know.


    The car dealer put a TX state flag badge on the back of our new car. I didn't love it but I thought it was less offensive than a dealer name so I didn't demand its removal. I'm not sure I want to know its history now :/

    Plus, gay dudes are driving around soiling the meaning of it in their gay, gay car. Bahahaha.

    Don't tell me you covered your car in Texas flags and rainbow stickers.icon_eek.gif
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    Jul 16, 2014 6:16 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidDon't tell me you covered your car in Texas flags and rainbow stickers.icon_eek.gif


    lol no :p
  • KissTheSky

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    Jul 17, 2014 12:48 AM GMT
    Can we make a deal with Texas? The rednecks who live there have two choices: 1) secede from the Union or 2)shut up about it.
    Pick one! icon_lol.gif
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    Jul 17, 2014 1:30 AM GMT
    KissTheSky saidCan we make a deal with Texas? The rednecks who live there have two choices: 1) secede from the Union or 2)shut up about it.
    Pick one! icon_lol.gif


    why give them the choice of option 2. 1 sounds good enough.
  • coolarmydude

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    Jul 17, 2014 2:31 AM GMT
    Someone should get one and put something like "LOST" or "NOGO" on it.
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    Jul 17, 2014 3:03 AM GMT
    Now we get the united rainbow flag??

    I want that here in REDNECK AZ....hahahaa

    It's a political year here. We have a few who are gay running for office.

    Now, I did study some of this political garbage and law in school and hate it for the most part......BUT......If you don't fight for your rights you will get stepped on!

    So I am going to be the bitch ass pain in the side and through fire balls of wizardry at the ass wipes! (gay are exempt)

    I can do it!!