Free Palestine- Gaza is being destroyed

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    Jul 18, 2014 4:55 AM GMT
    Over 300 people have died in Gaza in hospitals, schools, mosques and churches in Gaza in the past few days. I am praying for the people of Gaza!

    How do you all feel about the situation in Palestine/ Israel?
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    Jul 18, 2014 7:23 PM GMT
    bighairymuscles saidOver 300 people have died in Gaza in hospitals, schools, mosques and churches in Gaza in the past few days. I am praying for the people of Gaza!

    How do you all feel about the situation in Palestine/ Israel?

    Having served in that area, been on several trips to the area in the last few years and having just returned a few weeks ago from a European and Russian trip I have a few observations and questions for the OP.

    My first question is, are you serious?

    War is hell and we should be praying for anyone facing it on both sides of a conflict and especially for the suffering of the civilian populations caught up in war.
    Having said that, I've been in several small Israeli towns when the Palestinian/Hamas rockets fell to the ground. One thing I've always taken notice of is the striking contrast in the way the two sides handle their civilian populations.

    In Israel half of the civilian population is hiding in bomb shelters.

    In Gaza the Hamas terrorist leaders are hiding in bomb shelters while they hide their weapons in their shopping centers, schools, mosques, and Hospitals among their women and children and sick and elderly.

    Civilized societies do everything in their power to protect their women and children and sick and elderly from the ravages of war, not use them as shields to protect their weapons and leaders from the ravages of war.

    I wonder does the Op and those like him condemn and demand that Hamas and the Palestinian people (as well as other groups) stop the barbaric practice of putting their civilian population in harms way by using women and children as shields for their weapons and leaders in deliberate attempts to raise the body counts and therefor world sympathy for them (something that has worked remarkably well until this time)?

    Op, I notice you mention Palestinians dying in their hospitals, schools, mosques and churches, are you unaware of the Palestinian use of such facilities to hide weapons or did you not feel it was important to mention that? I know it sounds terrible to mention people dying in those facilities, but when the fact that those very facilities are the same places that Hamas has hidden it weapons it changes the picture considerably.

    OP, I wonder why you didn't bother to post a video clip of IDF fighter pilots aborting missions to keep from killing civilians, especially children? Was it just oversight or does it not serve the purpose of dehumanizing the citizens of Israel ?


    OP, I notice you didn't mention that Egypt (a Muslim country) tried to broker a cease fire between the two sides with Israel coming to the table only to be rejected by Hamas/Palestinians out of hand? Is that because it shows that Israel would like to find a solution to the problem?

    OP, I noticed you made no mention of Israel (having the obvious advantage) Allowing a cease fire so humanitarian aid could be delivered to Gaza (a cease fire agreed to by Hamas, yet not kept by Hamas)? Is that because it actually serves to humanize the Israelis and show them as civilized?

    Finally, OP, were you aware that on Wednesday 229 Arab Muslims were killed? Or that 314 Arab Muslims were killed on Thursday? That hasn't been widely reported in the media and you didn't make mention of it, I wonder is that because it doesn't serve the purpose of demonizing Israel to mention and ask for people to pray for Muslims killed by other Muslims in Syria?

    I wonder why you make no mention of the Two State Solution which Israel has already agreed to clear back in 1948? Is that because the Palestinian goal is not Two States?

    OP, shouldn't we also be calling for prayer for the Israelis killed by Palestinians/Hamas as well? Or is this just about one side and what one side wants?

    "In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man."

  • frogman89

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    Jul 18, 2014 7:32 PM GMT
    What he said.
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    Jul 19, 2014 2:53 AM GMT
    Yes, I am serious. You can't go running around killing innocent civilians, build walls around them, cut them off access to their own land, don't let them vote, and then call yourself a "Democracy"

    You can't go flying fighter jets, targeting hospitals and innocent civilians and cheering when they die, like they showed on the news, just watch for yourself..

    You want to talk about a civilized society, well just listen to what our former US President has to say about the situation...

    It is horrible what is happening, and Hamas has no right to fire rockets and kill innocent civilians in Israel. Yes, they are firing rockets and they hit random areas, however..

    The IDF is targeting innocent civilians, hospitals, churches, mosques and other areas that have nothing to do with Hamas. You don't see the Arabs cutting off Israel to humanitarian aid, bombing hospitals and building walls around Israel. You can't have a double standard and blame anyone who criticizes Israel for being Anti Semitic.

    Read this article, a beloved Israeli Politician says all "PALESTINIAN MOTHERS SHOULD BE KILLED"

    Of course we can shit on Arabs, middle eastern people, muslims, etc. and but one can never criticize Israel. However, its okay for the Israeli Govt to say all Palestinian mothers should be killed? When Mel Gibson went on saying that "Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world" everyone screamed and cried about anti Semitism.

    Where are all these same people criticizing the Israeli GOVT for being anti human and racism?

    You want to see the real victims, wstch this video...

    The US needs to stop supporting Israel.. We are not the United States of Israel and we are NOT the United States of Palestine, we need to stop funding them with money, bombs, military weapons and such.

    I do admire people like Cristiano Ronaldo who take a stand against people who kill innocent women and children

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    Jul 19, 2014 3:00 AM GMT
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    Jul 19, 2014 3:04 AM GMT
    Of course if any person criticizes Israel, they get blamed for being racist, or as this women on CNN lost her job.

    She described Israelis who cheered when women and children were being killed as "Scum" and then she gets fired.

    Israel does have the right to exist, but not the right to cut off humanitarian aid to gaza, to occupy and create settlements in the west bank and gaza, and deny people of basic human rights.

    It is horrible what is happening to everyone in Israel/Palestine regardless of Jewish, Muslim, Christian or whatever.

    I do sincerely hope that the fighting ends soon.

    "An Eye for an Eye makes the whole world blind' -Gandhi
  • Lincsbear

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    Jul 20, 2014 1:17 PM GMT
    I think the much higher death toll on the Palestinian side also reflects the much greater firepower Israel brings to the conflict, its control of all airspace and seaspace, and its anti-missile defence system; largely because of all the economic and military aid from the US.
    It`s a very unequal conflict.
  • Apparition

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    Aug 11, 2014 4:22 AM GMT
    Why would i care either way? They have being doing this since religion began, why stop them now?
  • TheSkyWasYell...

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    Oct 19, 2014 8:28 PM GMT
    Good for Israel, I wish they'd kill more Paleswinian filth. These are creatures that MURDER GAYS, teach their children to be suicide bombers, elect neo-Nazis like Hamas, fuck their cousins (per their prophet's example) and cheered in the streets over 9/11....quite frankly, the sooner these creatures are off the planet the better. They chose to be hate-filled, mindless animals obsessed with destroying Jews and deserve to be treated as such.

    I know this will fall on deaf ears to Paleswinians' European cheerleading lapdogs because it's an historic absolute that Europeans have NEVER met a Jew-hater or American-hater whose asshole they wouldn't rim. Which is one of many reasons I find Paleswine's Zeropean supporters even more repulsive, arrogant and cowardly than the Paleswinian garbage themselves. That's the REAL reason the most insufferable, cowardly continent on this planet sheds sooo many crocodile tears for Paleswinian animals.