If some one chooses to be gay?

  • Aj267

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    Jul 18, 2014 9:26 PM GMT
    I believe someone would choose to be gay your not born that way
    cause if you were then wouldnt you be kissing guys and doing
    stuff at the age of 1-5? I just want some opinions
  • frogman89

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    Jul 18, 2014 9:27 PM GMT
    Aj267 saidI believe someone would choose to be gay your not born that way
    cause if you were then wouldnt you be kissing guys and doing
    stuff at the age of 1-5? I just want some opinions

    How do you know you didn't? Some things of our childhood we just don't remember.
  • HottJoe

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    Jul 18, 2014 9:29 PM GMT
    By that logic, you don't have a sexuality until you act on it...
  • Aj267

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    Jul 18, 2014 9:29 PM GMT
    Never said i did i was referring to everyone and if anyone has ide like to know icon_rolleyes.gif
  • Aj267

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    Jul 18, 2014 9:31 PM GMT
    seems like the people ik from there opinions it was around 12
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jul 19, 2014 1:34 PM GMT
    You cannot choose to be either gay or straight. That is all predetermined by nature. I am so sick and damned tired of hearing all this baseless nonsense that people choose their sexual orientationicon_mad.gif
  • newgym

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    Jul 19, 2014 2:07 PM GMT
    when did you choose to be straight ?


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    Jul 19, 2014 2:52 PM GMT
    Aj267 saidI believe someone would choose to be gay your not born that way cause if you were then wouldnt you be kissing guys and doing
    stuff at the age of 1-5? I just want some opinions

    I wasn't aware straight guys were kissing girls and doing stuff at the age of 1-5.

    Most children don't develop and express their sexuality until they become pubescent, as their hormones come into play, and other developmental changes take place in their brains. They are truly innocent, and any apparent gender roles they play are largely acquired socially, by copying the adult world they observe around them. That's part of the normal childhood learning & growth process. So that I don't think your logic is valid.

    Now my own husband claims he "knew" he was gay at 5, and was acting on it. I doubt that very much. Children that age simply don't understand sexuality, and have virtually no sense of their own. Any memories of his gay feelings & behavior have most likely been retroactively generated & applied, as "acquired" memories.

    Your flat statement that a person is not born gay is incorrect. Sexual orientation is already determined at birth. Sexuality may take time to emerge, part of the normal maturation process, but the determinants are already present, and are not subject to free conscious choice.

    External factors, primarily societal, may influence the timing and acceptance of that process. But it is no choice. You appear to be struggling with this issue, and perhaps are the victim of a lot of bad information.
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    Jul 19, 2014 3:03 PM GMT
    Aj267 saidI believe someone would choose to be gay your not born that way
    cause if you were then wouldnt you be kissing guys and doing
    stuff at the age of 1-5? I just want some opinions


    You're assuming that boys weren't.
    Assuming that their parents didn't slap them up side the head for it.
    'Nurture' built the closet long before puberty kicked in.
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    Jul 19, 2014 3:44 PM GMT
    dustin_K_tx said
    Aj267 saidI believe someone would choose to be gay your not born that way
    cause if you were then wouldnt you be kissing guys and doing
    stuff at the age of 1-5? I just want some opinions

    You're assuming that boys weren't.
    Assuming that their parents didn't slap them up side the head for it.
    'Nurture' built the closet long before puberty kicked in.

    Many, if not most children will do "anatomical exploring" at any early age. It's part of the natural learning & growth process. And so very young boys & girls will check each other out, both the opposite & same sex. And yes, parents will slap them for it.

    But it's not really sexuality or orientation as we're discussing it here. It's innocent childhood curiosity, and too much shouldn't be read into it.
  • Jon_Alex

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    Jul 19, 2014 3:48 PM GMT
    Children don't develop sexually until puberty. "Sexual" acts before that age are probably not really sexual in the way adults experience them. I'm always a little skeptical when people talk about their "sexuality" at 6 or 8 years old, or whatever. Kids don't even have a conception of that at that age.
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    Jul 19, 2014 3:56 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    ...But it's not really sexuality or orientation as we're discussing it here. It's innocent childhood curiosity, and too much shouldn't be read into it.

    Not really as we're discussing here?
    Op stated "age of 1-5?"
    and how is being smacked for kissing the cute boy next door not shape how I make choices later in life.
    Especially when the same "innocent childhood curiosity" expressed with a girl was praised, called cute.
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    Jul 19, 2014 4:24 PM GMT
    I've distinct and vivid memories of being same-sex-oriented since pre-kindergarten. Many of us report similarly.

    http://legacy.jyi.org/volumes/volume10/issue1/articles/cruise.html
    Research indicates that many children who later identify as gay, lesbian, or bisexual experience a vague sense of being “different” as a child, but are unable to clearly label this difference (Bell et al. 1981). Indeed, children can recognize attractions at young ages, but self-labels do not become solidified until adolescence

    http://kidshealth.org/parent/emotions/feelings/sexual_orientation.html#
    Knowing one's sexual orientation — whether straight or gay — is often something that kids or teens recognize with little doubt from a very young age. It's an immediate awareness. Some gay teens say they experienced same-sex crushes in childhood, just as their heterosexual peers experienced opposite-sex crushes.
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    Jul 19, 2014 5:16 PM GMT
    No one would choose to be gay unless they are from British Columbia. Get over it. I remember an enormous fascination with Dave Draper when I was a kid...
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    Jul 19, 2014 6:45 PM GMT
    LOL. This thread.