Myers-Briggs

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    Jul 21, 2014 9:50 PM GMT
    How many of you have had a Myers-Briggs evaluation, and if so, how accurate do you think it was?
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    Jul 21, 2014 9:56 PM GMT
    I considered it, but being the Introvert that I am, I had plenty of "me" time to Intuitively Feel that $150 is too much to pay for the online MBTI instrument, so I made a Judgement call to forgo that and just assume that I'm probably INFJ.
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    Jul 21, 2014 10:09 PM GMT
    you can do it for free lots of sites.

    INTJ
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    Jul 21, 2014 10:15 PM GMT
    Imho, Myers-Briggs test is a waste of time.
    I believe in Abraham Maslow's ideas.
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    Jul 21, 2014 10:29 PM GMT
    Want a valid measure of personality?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Multiphasic_Personality_Inventory

    Pay a clinical psychologist to administer this on you.
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    Jul 21, 2014 10:32 PM GMT
    I've done them online recently and had them done in the past professionally, finding the description pretty accurate but I would naturally favor that view as I tend towards being Jungian. In many ways, I love his thinking.

    theantijock said on thread http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3873833
    theantijock said on thread http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3839474/
    I test as INFJ, reported here...

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3712191
    theantijock saidhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INFJ
    INFJs are among the rarest of types, usually accounted as being between 1–3% of the population

    Finally an explanation as to why I've always thought there was something odd about 99% of yas.


    and PS to the above post I've had MMPI done as well.
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    Jul 21, 2014 10:44 PM GMT
    owl_bundy said
    Kuestion saidWant a valid measure of personality?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Multiphasic_Personality_Inventory

    Pay a clinical psychologist to administer this on you.


    icon_neutral.gif how much is it???

    then again, nevermind. i'm through with going to shrinks. if it's not broken, don't fix it. everybody has a bit of craziness to them anyways. i'm not crazy to the point where i need intervention.


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    Jul 21, 2014 10:47 PM GMT
    owl_bundy said
    Kuestion saidWant a valid measure of personality?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Multiphasic_Personality_Inventory

    Pay a clinical psychologist to administer this on you.


    icon_neutral.gif how much is it???

    then again, nevermind. i'm through with going to shrinks. if it's not broken, don't fix it. everybody has a bit of craziness to them anyways. i'm not crazy to the point where i need intervention.


    I don't recall the cost and I did it long ago but I seem to remember it being quite involved and time consuming.

    As to uses of psychologists, they're not just there for times of crisis. Even if you're surviving or coasting or whatever, a good therapist can get you to the next level of thinking and functioning. I know people who go all their lives, very successful, well-integrated people.
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    Jul 21, 2014 10:59 PM GMT
    owl_bundy said
    Kuestion said
    owl_bundy said
    Kuestion saidWant a valid measure of personality?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Multiphasic_Personality_Inventory

    Pay a clinical psychologist to administer this on you.


    icon_neutral.gif how much is it???

    then again, nevermind. i'm through with going to shrinks. if it's not broken, don't fix it. everybody has a bit of craziness to them anyways. i'm not crazy to the point where i need intervention.


    http://www.takingcharge.csh.umn.edu/activities/stages-readiness-change icon_biggrin.gif


    thanks. why did you post that though?


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    Jul 21, 2014 11:00 PM GMT
    Okajuurou saidImho, Myers-Briggs test is a waste of time.
    I believe in Abraham Maslow's ideas.
    +1
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    Jul 22, 2014 1:59 AM GMT
    owl_bundy said

    you know something... i spent about 6 years going to random shrinks around the way asking "am i crazy?" and even more years convinced that i was fucked up in the head. however, i'll admit that it had to do with a certain issues that i didn't want or know how to deal with it so i was like "i think i'm bipolar" instead of "i think i'm gay and i don't want to be gay so there has to be something wrong with me." i was seriously bothered at that i might have been gay and combine that with some of the other issues i had such as managaing ocd and depression, things looked worse than what they were or at least that's what i thought. i came off looking like a real nutjob when i wasn't because i would overexaggerate shit instead of saying what the real deal was.

    i can manage though. i would say that i feel a lot better now than how i used to feel back in 2010 or before that. never again. i don't mind being depressed, anxious or having ocd. the good news is that my ocd is nowhere near as bad as it used to be. the intensity has lowered over the years where it's now just the color of cars, letters of the alphabet and the time on the clock. the depression.. i dunno. people say that i'm negative without me realizing it.


    Especially when you are young, but even in later years, the more you think--and your mind races, obviously--the more it doesn't hurt to have someone to bounce ideas off.

    Certainly not every shrink will be helpful. But the good guys can be helpful even for people smarter and more self aware than them, as they've the training and experience to handle that. One person I know who always goes to the shrink is successful in publishing, a real interesting person and lifelong friend of mine (and a friend of the late Gore Vidal, even) and the other person who went to the shrink for her entire life was my mom who was very smart and productive and sociable, the last person most would think would need counseling. But she always worked on her mind from meditation to reading to psychology, and lucky for we who loved her, to us.

    How many moms do you know who chant Om in the convertible at red lights? Hey, Ma, the top's down and you're embarrassing me.

    Always work on your mind, man. Never be afraid or ashamed of that.
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    Jul 22, 2014 4:25 AM GMT
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    you know something... i spent about 6 years going to random shrinks around the way asking "am i crazy?" and even more years convinced that i was fucked up in the head. however, i'll admit that it had to do with a certain issues that i didn't want or know how to deal with it so i was like "i think i'm bipolar" instead of "i think i'm gay and i don't want to be gay so there has to be something wrong with me." i was seriously bothered at that i might have been gay and combine that with some of the other issues i had such as managaing ocd and depression, things looked worse than what they were or at least that's what i thought. i came off looking like a real nutjob when i wasn't because i would overexaggerate shit instead of saying what the real deal was.

    i can manage though. i would say that i feel a lot better now than how i used to feel back in 2010 or before that. never again. i don't mind being depressed, anxious or having ocd. the good news is that my ocd is nowhere near as bad as it used to be. the intensity has lowered over the years where it's now just the color of cars, letters of the alphabet and the time on the clock. the depression.. i dunno. people say that i'm negative without me realizing it.


    Especially when you are young, but even in later years, the more you think--and your mind races, obviously--the more it doesn't hurt to have someone to bounce ideas off.

    Certainly not every shrink will be helpful. But the good guys can be helpful even for people smarter and more self aware than them, as they've the training and experience to handle that. One person I know who always goes to the shrink is successful in publishing, a real interesting person and lifelong friend of mine (and a friend of the late Gore Vidal, even) and the other person who went to the shrink for her entire life was my mom who was very smart and productive and sociable, the last person most would think would need counseling. But she always worked on her mind from meditation to reading to psychology, and lucky for we who loved her, to us.

    How many moms do you know who chant Om in the convertible at red lights? Hey, Ma, the top's down and you're embarrassing me.

    Always work on your mind, man. Never be afraid or ashamed of that.


    another reason why i'm turned off with the therapists is that they make me feel uncomfortable with releasing or expressing my inner feelings. i grew up with the people around me from my family to strangers making me feel bad about me expressing myself or me being me. i don't know if it had to do with being bullied at an early age but it made me into a self conscious, worried, nervous wreck where i'm paranoid, worrying about what others are thinking so i basically act a certain way to get people off my back. however, it doesn't work because people will still be picking me apart like "you walk funny", "the way you make up your face", and etc. basically, it made me one repressed guy emotionally where i'm just full of bottled up emotions that i'm having a hard time controlling where it comes out even when i don't realize it.

    that's one of the reasons why i haven't cried in years even when i'm by myself. the people around me made me feel embarrassed about crying and even what i was crying about. you know, "boys aren't supposed to cry". the last time i cried was when i was 14. it would be nice as hell to fucking cry uncontrollably or at least... *sigh* have somebody let me cry uncontrollably on their shoulder or some shit BUT most people will go like "what the fuck is wrong with you? are you okay?" i want to just like my emotions go but going to a shrink, they make me not want to do that because they'll be busy analyzing me, thinking i have a mental problem where they're like "you need medication to stop crying or to repress your feelings" or all cold like they don't give a fuck like you're wasting their time.

    i'll be damned if they give me meds again. talk about repression. the repressing feeling made me feel even way more depressed and anxious than i already was.


    Sounds like you went to psychiatrists (you mentioned medications)... Lets just say they aren't known for being the most non-judgemental and empathetic bunch lol (no offense).

    If you go into therapy with preconceived notions about what therapy is about, it is going to muddle your reactions to the process. And if you are made to feel like you were being judged by your therapists, well, quite frankly, those weren't good therapists.


    You can explain whatever is going on with you well enough it seems and I think it is party because you have done therapy before. You seem have the answers to most of your questions, what do you think is holding you back?
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    Jul 22, 2014 4:45 AM GMT
    owl_bundy said
    Kuestion said
    owl_bundy said
    theantijock said
    owl_bundy said

    you know something... i spent about 6 years going to random shrinks around the way asking "am i crazy?" and even more years convinced that i was fucked up in the head. however, i'll admit that it had to do with a certain issues that i didn't want or know how to deal with it so i was like "i think i'm bipolar" instead of "i think i'm gay and i don't want to be gay so there has to be something wrong with me." i was seriously bothered at that i might have been gay and combine that with some of the other issues i had such as managaing ocd and depression, things looked worse than what they were or at least that's what i thought. i came off looking like a real nutjob when i wasn't because i would overexaggerate shit instead of saying what the real deal was.

    i can manage though. i would say that i feel a lot better now than how i used to feel back in 2010 or before that. never again. i don't mind being depressed, anxious or having ocd. the good news is that my ocd is nowhere near as bad as it used to be. the intensity has lowered over the years where it's now just the color of cars, letters of the alphabet and the time on the clock. the depression.. i dunno. people say that i'm negative without me realizing it.


    Especially when you are young, but even in later years, the more you think--and your mind races, obviously--the more it doesn't hurt to have someone to bounce ideas off.

    Certainly not every shrink will be helpful. But the good guys can be helpful even for people smarter and more self aware than them, as they've the training and experience to handle that. One person I know who always goes to the shrink is successful in publishing, a real interesting person and lifelong friend of mine (and a friend of the late Gore Vidal, even) and the other person who went to the shrink for her entire life was my mom who was very smart and productive and sociable, the last person most would think would need counseling. But she always worked on her mind from meditation to reading to psychology, and lucky for we who loved her, to us.

    How many moms do you know who chant Om in the convertible at red lights? Hey, Ma, the top's down and you're embarrassing me.

    Always work on your mind, man. Never be afraid or ashamed of that.


    another reason why i'm turned off with the therapists is that they make me feel uncomfortable with releasing or expressing my inner feelings. i grew up with the people around me from my family to strangers making me feel bad about me expressing myself or me being me. i don't know if it had to do with being bullied at an early age but it made me into a self conscious, worried, nervous wreck where i'm paranoid, worrying about what others are thinking so i basically act a certain way to get people off my back. however, it doesn't work because people will still be picking me apart like "you walk funny", "the way you make up your face", and etc. basically, it made me one repressed guy emotionally where i'm just full of bottled up emotions that i'm having a hard time controlling where it comes out even when i don't realize it.

    that's one of the reasons why i haven't cried in years even when i'm by myself. the people around me made me feel embarrassed about crying and even what i was crying about. you know, "boys aren't supposed to cry". the last time i cried was when i was 14. it would be nice as hell to fucking cry uncontrollably or at least... *sigh* have somebody let me cry uncontrollably on their shoulder or some shit BUT most people will go like "what the fuck is wrong with you? are you okay?" i want to just like my emotions go but going to a shrink, they make me not want to do that because they'll be busy analyzing me, thinking i have a mental problem where they're like "you need medication to stop crying or to repress your feelings" or all cold like they don't give a fuck like you're wasting their time.

    i'll be damned if they give me meds again. talk about repression. the repressing feeling made me feel even way more depressed and anxious than i already was.


    Sounds like you went to psychiatrists (you mentioned medications)... Lets just say they aren't known for being the most non-judgemental and empathetic bunch lol (no offense).

    If you go into therapy with preconceived notions about what therapy is about, it is going to muddle your reactions to the process. And if you are made to feel like you were being judged by your therapists, well, quite frankly, those weren't good therapists.


    You can explain whatever is going on with you well enough it seems and I think it is party because you have done therapy before. You seem have the answers to most of your questions, what do you think is holding you back?


    it's been the same thing with therapists too. they just don't care. half of them care about the money. the other half just seem to genuinely not care as that's their attitude. my situation has always been about money and insurance. it's either the insurance that i had didn't cover them or they wanted cash up front. basically, 6 years of wasting my time, running in circles with no results. hell, i was doing quite well without them. only time i'll go back there is if the courts force me against my will and that's not going to happen.


    on that note about explaining my problems, that has absolutely nothing to do with therapy. that has more to do with venting on internet forums and journal writing which i've been doing long before i sought "therapy". those two things have done more for me than a therapist has. hell, the fucked up part is that the therapists act all shocked @ how i basically am able to express or tell them my issues where they're like "he has my work cut out for me". they basically tell me indirectly that i don't need to be there which is why i've been one to stop going. it's a waste of time. not going back there. i know i'm not that fucked up where i'm a risk to myself or others.


    Well venting within of itself is therapeutic.

    It's rather unfortunate that you had such experiences with therapists. If you feel as though you can solve whatever problems on your own, well that's all up to you. I wish you good luck.
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    Jul 22, 2014 4:47 AM GMT
    I think they are mostly accurate for me, I cant remember what exactly I scored before I have it printed off someplace.
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    Jul 22, 2014 4:57 AM GMT
    All personality tests are a waste of time. Humans are all different and complex.
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    Jul 22, 2014 5:15 AM GMT
    This is a "thing" now. Starting to see more profiles include their Myers-Briggs results. icon_confused.gif