Goodbye to the Republican Wave?

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    Jul 21, 2014 10:26 PM GMT
    NYT: Republicans entered this election cycle with high hopes. President Obama’s approval ratings had sunk into the low 40s, and the rollout of the Affordable Care Act had been an unmitigated disaster. In an off-year election, Democrats weren’t expected to fully mobilize the young and diverse coalition that has given them an advantage in presidential elections. Off-years are also when a president’s party typically suffers significant losses.

    This year seemed poised to turn into another so-called wave election, like in 2006 or 2010, when a rising tide of dissatisfaction with the incumbent party swept the opposition into power. Given a favorable midterm map, with so many Democratic Senate seats in play, some analysts suggested that Republicans could win a dozen of them, perhaps even picking up seats in states like Virginia, New Hampshire and Oregon.

    The anti-Democratic wave might still arrive. But with three and a half months to go until November’s elections, the promised Republican momentum has yet to materialize.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/22/upshot/goodbye-to-the-republican-wave.html
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    Jul 21, 2014 10:56 PM GMT
    I forecast a Democratic majority in the House and Senate.
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    Jul 21, 2014 11:04 PM GMT
    GAMRican saidI forecast a Democratic majority in the House and Senate.


    And the Senate.
  • OutdoorAdvent...

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    Jul 21, 2014 11:07 PM GMT
    GAMRican saidI forecast a Democratic majority in the House and Senate.

    Let's hope. And let's also work to make that happen.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jul 21, 2014 11:20 PM GMT
    woodsmen saidNYT: Republicans entered this election cycle with high hopes. President Obama’s approval ratings had sunk into the low 40s, and the rollout of the Affordable Care Act had been an unmitigated disaster. In an off-year election, Democrats weren’t expected to fully mobilize the young and diverse coalition that has given them an advantage in presidential elections. Off-years are also when a president’s party typically suffers significant losses.

    This year seemed poised to turn into another so-called wave election, like in 2006 or 2010, when a rising tide of dissatisfaction with the incumbent party swept the opposition into power. Given a favorable midterm map, with so many Democratic Senate seats in play, some analysts suggested that Republicans could win a dozen of them, perhaps even picking up seats in states like Virginia, New Hampshire and Oregon.

    The anti-Democratic wave might still arrive. But with three and a half months to go until November’s elections, the promised Republican momentum has yet to materialize.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/22/upshot/goodbye-to-the-republican-wave.html
    I doubt if Oregon will elect a republican to the Senate. That state for the most part is too democratic and too blue excluding its thinly populated southeastern desert part which appears the most red necked. New Hampshire and Virginia could both go either way, those two states are hard to predict.
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    Jul 21, 2014 11:22 PM GMT
    Who cares? They're basically the same.
    Afterwards there will still be secret kill lists that include US citizens. The NSA will still be tracking you constantly. In short, no matter who is in your power the steady erosion of your civil liberties will continue.
    Banks will still be "to big to fail" meaning we will continue to have cronyism running this country (I won't insult the ghost of Adam Smith to call it capitalism!)
    The vast majority of Democrats are just as beholden to big donors as the Republicans. The megarich play both sides so that no matter who wins they can collect favors.
    I'm just glad I moved to Canada...
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jul 21, 2014 11:35 PM GMT
    Wyndahoi saidWho cares? They're basically the same.
    Afterwards there will still be secret kill lists that include US citizens. The NSA will still be tracking you constantly. In short, no matter who is in your power the steady erosion of your civil liberties will continue.
    Banks will still be "to big to fail" meaning we will continue to have cronyism running this country (I won't insult the ghost of Adam Smith to call it capitalism!)
    The vast majority of Democrats are just as beholden to big donors as the Republicans. The megarich play both sides so that no matter who wins they can collect favors.
    I'm just glad I moved to Canada...
    That is a good, valid point. Republicans and democrats are both beholden to the super rich so nothing will ever change until both these corrupt, incompetent political parties are evicted from elected office, that is if the large majority of Americans would start thinking and deciding for themselves rather than depending on the news media and the lobbyists to do all their thinking and decision making.
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    Jul 21, 2014 11:40 PM GMT
    OutdoorAdventurist said
    GAMRican saidI forecast a Democratic majority in the House and Senate.


    Let's hope. And let's also work to make that happen.


    Don't forget...we also need to elect Democrats to state and local offices as well. All politics IS truly local and the fewer the Republicans are in numbers within that arena, the better off we ALL will be.
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    Jul 21, 2014 11:47 PM GMT
    All the Republicans have to do is emphasize Harry Reid stalling the jobs bills the House passed...and it's game over.
  • wild_sky360

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    Jul 21, 2014 11:48 PM GMT
    Wyndahoi saidWho cares? They're basically the same.
    Afterwards there will still be secret kill lists that include US citizens. The NSA will still be tracking you constantly. In short, no matter who is in your power the steady erosion of your civil liberties will continue.
    Banks will still be "to big to fail" meaning we will continue to have cronyism running this country (I won't insult the ghost of Adam Smith to call it capitalism!)
    The vast majority of Democrats are just as beholden to big donors as the Republicans. The megarich play both sides so that no matter who wins they can collect favors.
    I'm just glad I moved to Canada...


    Big Plus 1
    Neocons didn't move on in 08, they just went back undercover.
  • wild_sky360

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    Jul 21, 2014 11:50 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Wyndahoi saidWho cares? They're basically the same.
    Afterwards there will still be secret kill lists that include US citizens. The NSA will still be tracking you constantly. In short, no matter who is in your power the steady erosion of your civil liberties will continue.
    Banks will still be "to big to fail" meaning we will continue to have cronyism running this country (I won't insult the ghost of Adam Smith to call it capitalism!)
    The vast majority of Democrats are just as beholden to big donors as the Republicans. The megarich play both sides so that no matter who wins they can collect favors.
    I'm just glad I moved to Canada...
    That is a good, valid point. Republicans and democrats are both beholden to the super rich so nothing will ever change until both these corrupt, incompetent political parties are evicted from elected office, that is if the large majority of Americans would start thinking and deciding for themselves rather than depending on the news media and the lobbyists to do all their thinking and decision making.


    Big Plus 1

    Don't accept the lesser of two evils because of what you hear some talking head repeating
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jul 21, 2014 11:53 PM GMT
    turtleneckjock said
    OutdoorAdventurist said
    GAMRican saidI forecast a Democratic majority in the House and Senate.


    Let's hope. And let's also work to make that happen.


    Don't forget...we also need to elect Democrats to state and local offices as well. All politics IS truly local and the fewer the Republicans are in numbers within that arena, the better off we ALL will be.
    You go ahead and do that but the true fact remains is that the democrats are no more effective or trustworthy than the republicans. With either major party in office, the mass majority of Americans are screwed and the wealthiest 1% to 2% continue to get wealthier at our expense. But you just keep being a blind sycophant to the democratic party and dreaming of major changes that will never happen.
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    Jul 22, 2014 12:09 AM GMT
    While it may be true and evident that the Democrats are just as much in bed with rich donors, we Democrats believe in a vastly different America than republicans. I TOTALLY prefer a gridlock with Democrats in power than Republicans who want to dismantle any kind of social network and wealth distribution, voter rights, education rights, reproductive freedom rights, minimum wage, not to mention right near an dear to we LGBT folks. The Republican are selfish, self-serving, and radically far worse for us than democrats.

    And to the comment about local elections, did you all know that California has enjoyed a super-majority where the State House, Senate (both by >66%) and ALL elected offices in California are held by Democrats. We've balanced the budget, increased the minmum wage and a whole host of other legislation that makes sense to all Americans. Go to Canada if you want but I'll stay RIGHT HERE.
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    Jul 22, 2014 12:10 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    turtleneckjock said
    OutdoorAdventurist said
    GAMRican saidI forecast a Democratic majority in the House and Senate.


    Let's hope. And let's also work to make that happen.


    Don't forget...we also need to elect Democrats to state and local offices as well. All politics IS truly local and the fewer the Republicans are in numbers within that arena, the better off we ALL will be.
    You go ahead and do that but the true fact remains is that the democrats are no more effective or trustworthy than the republicans. With either major party in office, the mass majority of Americans are screwed and the wealthiest 1% to 2% continue to get wealthier at our expense. But you just keep being a blind sycophant to the democratic party and dreaming of major changes that will never happen.


    This is hardly a true statement that has no bases in fact. The Republicans have stated that their prime agenda is to block Obama. I don't think the Dem have stated or done anything to block positive legislation meant to help people.

    Not sure how anyone would come to the conclusion that both parties are the same in terms of helping the majority of the countries citizens.

    I would like to see all branches controlled by liberals, this would give Pres. Obama a chance to get some things accomplished. More than what he is able to do by just executive orders.

    For example, he has been very supportive of the LGBT community, imagine what he could do if he had the full house and senate behind him.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jul 22, 2014 12:17 AM GMT
    blkbodybdr said
    roadbikeRob said
    turtleneckjock said
    OutdoorAdventurist said
    GAMRican saidI forecast a Democratic majority in the House and Senate.


    Let's hope. And let's also work to make that happen.


    Don't forget...we also need to elect Democrats to state and local offices as well. All politics IS truly local and the fewer the Republicans are in numbers within that arena, the better off we ALL will be.
    You go ahead and do that but the true fact remains is that the democrats are no more effective or trustworthy than the republicans. With either major party in office, the mass majority of Americans are screwed and the wealthiest 1% to 2% continue to get wealthier at our expense. But you just keep being a blind sycophant to the democratic party and dreaming of major changes that will never happen.


    This is hardly a true statement that has no bases in fact. The Republicans have stated that their prime agenda is to block Obama. I don't think the Dem have stated or done anything to block positive legislation meant to help people.

    Not sure how anyone would come to the conclusion that both parties are the same in terms of helping the majority of the countries citizens.

    I would like to see all branches controlled by liberals, this would give Pres. Obama a chance to get some things accomplished. More than what he is able to do by just executive orders.

    For example, he has been very supportive of the LGBT community, imagine what he could do if he had the full house and senate behind him.
    It is a fact that both democrats and republicans are equally controlled by the wealthiest 1% to 2% of Americans. The democrats are no damned better than the republicans, both are corrupt and only out for their own self aggrandizement. You need to get out of your fantasyland. Neither party is good for this country. It doesn't matter who is trying to block Obama, the fact remains that both democrats and republicans are equally beholden to the rich and powerful.
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    Jul 22, 2014 12:29 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    blkbodybdr said
    roadbikeRob said
    turtleneckjock said
    OutdoorAdventurist said
    GAMRican saidI forecast a Democratic majority in the House and Senate.


    Let's hope. And let's also work to make that happen.


    Don't forget...we also need to elect Democrats to state and local offices as well. All politics IS truly local and the fewer the Republicans are in numbers within that arena, the better off we ALL will be.
    You go ahead and do that but the true fact remains is that the democrats are no more effective or trustworthy than the republicans. With either major party in office, the mass majority of Americans are screwed and the wealthiest 1% to 2% continue to get wealthier at our expense. But you just keep being a blind sycophant to the democratic party and dreaming of major changes that will never happen.


    This is hardly a true statement that has no bases in fact. The Republicans have stated that their prime agenda is to block Obama. I don't think the Dem have stated or done anything to block positive legislation meant to help people.

    Not sure how anyone would come to the conclusion that both parties are the same in terms of helping the majority of the countries citizens.

    I would like to see all branches controlled by liberals, this would give Pres. Obama a chance to get some things accomplished. More than what he is able to do by just executive orders.

    For example, he has been very supportive of the LGBT community, imagine what he could do if he had the full house and senate behind him.
    It is a fact that both democrats and republicans are equally controlled by the wealthiest 1% to 2% of Americans. The democrats are no damned better than the republicans, both are corrupt and only out for their own self aggrandizement. You need to get out of your fantasyland. Neither party is good for this country. It doesn't matter who is trying to block Obama, the fact remains that both democrats and republicans are equally beholden to the rich and powerful.


    again, your facts to support this point of view? Please list some examples of Democrats blocking positive legislation. Be specific...
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jul 22, 2014 12:35 AM GMT
    blkbodybdr said
    roadbikeRob said
    blkbodybdr said
    roadbikeRob said
    turtleneckjock said
    OutdoorAdventurist said
    GAMRican saidI forecast a Democratic majority in the House and Senate.


    Let's hope. And let's also work to make that happen.


    Don't forget...we also need to elect Democrats to state and local offices as well. All politics IS truly local and the fewer the Republicans are in numbers within that arena, the better off we ALL will be.
    You go ahead and do that but the true fact remains is that the democrats are no more effective or trustworthy than the republicans. With either major party in office, the mass majority of Americans are screwed and the wealthiest 1% to 2% continue to get wealthier at our expense. But you just keep being a blind sycophant to the democratic party and dreaming of major changes that will never happen.


    This is hardly a true statement that has no bases in fact. The Republicans have stated that their prime agenda is to block Obama. I don't think the Dem have stated or done anything to block positive legislation meant to help people.

    Not sure how anyone would come to the conclusion that both parties are the same in terms of helping the majority of the countries citizens.

    I would like to see all branches controlled by liberals, this would give Pres. Obama a chance to get some things accomplished. More than what he is able to do by just executive orders.

    For example, he has been very supportive of the LGBT community, imagine what he could do if he had the full house and senate behind him.
    It is a fact that both democrats and republicans are equally controlled by the wealthiest 1% to 2% of Americans. The democrats are no damned better than the republicans, both are corrupt and only out for their own self aggrandizement. You need to get out of your fantasyland. Neither party is good for this country. It doesn't matter who is trying to block Obama, the fact remains that both democrats and republicans are equally beholden to the rich and powerful.


    again, your facts to support this point of view? Please list some examples of Democrats blocking positive legislation. Be specific...
    It has absolutely nothing to do with who is blocking legislation backed by Obama. The true fact remains is that both republicans and democrats are equally beholden to the rich and powerful. Members of both parties will say anything to get their asses elected but than do a complete about face after election day and come up with all kinds of excuses. You need to stop being such a blind sycophant to the democratic party. Wake up and smell the coffee for Christsakes.
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    Jul 22, 2014 12:38 AM GMT
    Goodbye to the Republican Wave?

    Not so much a "wave" as a plague. Like an infectious disease that needs to be suppressed.
  • Muscles25

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    Jul 22, 2014 12:40 AM GMT
    What kind of mushrooms are you people smoking?
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    Jul 22, 2014 12:40 AM GMT
    Rich Democrats "are not of the people, but are for the people."
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    Jul 22, 2014 12:43 AM GMT
    Democrats are going lose many seats in Congress in the November elections. Anyone with half a brain knows this
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    Jul 22, 2014 12:49 AM GMT
    MuscleBuildr saidWhile it may be true and evident that the Democrats are just as much in bed with rich donors, we Democrats believe in a vastly different America than republicans.


    Democrat voters/citizens do, and Republican voters/citizens do, and if concerned, informed citizens of both stripes were in congress instead of vested interest, career politicians we'd be surprised by how much our mutual interests overlapped and promoted cooperation and compromise.
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    Jul 22, 2014 12:51 AM GMT
    Muscles25 saidWhat kind of mushrooms are you people smoking?


    The ones grown by Elizabeth Warren.
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    Jul 22, 2014 12:53 AM GMT
    woodsmen saidRich Democrats "are not of the people, but are for the people."


    Yeah, they're for the people. They come at us with a hug, and when we spurn their advances, they bring out the fist. No fucking thanks, fascists.
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    Jul 22, 2014 12:54 AM GMT
    Jack_NNJ said
    Muscles25 saidWhat kind of mushrooms are you people smoking?


    The ones grown by Elizabeth Warren.
    Are you sure it is not that hapless Hillary ho growing the toxic mushroomsicon_question.gificon_lol.gif