House Clears Way for Lawsuit Against Obama

  • WrestlerBoy

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    Jul 30, 2014 10:41 PM GMT
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-clears-way-for-lawsuit-against-obama/2014/07/30/7436aca6-1809-11e4-9349-84d4a85be981_story.html?wpisrc=al_comboPN_p

    LOL!!!!
    Where is their standing? What TORT against the HOUSE??????

    What assholes!!
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    Jul 31, 2014 12:25 AM GMT
    What a total bs move...

    GOP keeps screaming "impeach" in sound bytes, but they all know that there's no impeachable offense to justify it...

    So now they'll scream "lawsuit"...

    It still won't go anywhere... It's all just grandstanding for the upcoming elections.

    I fuckin' hate politics.
  • topathlete

    Posts: 882

    Jul 31, 2014 1:36 AM GMT
    The New York Times reports that the discussion about impeachment is not coming from GOP leaders but a few politicians. The leadership has denied their goal is impeachment. As the Times reports, the talk is being made by Democrats to fire up their base.

    Actually a balanced article:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/30/us/politics/impeachment-on-gop-lips-animates-base-of-democrats.html?_r=0

    Aside from that to those who claim there is no case for impeachment, McCarthy is a former federal prosecutor who makes a case in the following book plus a number of articles. Most likely there are those with excellent credentials who take an opposite view but the point can't be dismissed out of hand.

    Faithless Execution: Building the Political Case for Obama’s Impeachment Hardcover – June 3, 2014 by Andrew C McCarthy
    http://www.amazon.com/Faithless-Execution-Building-Political-Impeachment/dp/1594037760/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1406770102&sr=1-1&keywords=andrew+c.+mccarthy
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    Jul 31, 2014 2:01 AM GMT
    Executive Orders Issued by Presidents, Historically

    NYT:

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/08/opinion/blow-a-pen-a-phone-and-a-meme.html?
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    Jul 31, 2014 2:22 AM GMT
    WrestlerBoy saidhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-clears-way-for-lawsuit-against-obama/2014/07/30/7436aca6-1809-11e4-9349-84d4a85be981_story.html?wpisrc=al_comboPN_p

    LOL!!!!
    Where is their standing? What TORT against the HOUSE??????

    What assholes!!


    Listen you lesbo wanna be...... lol (joking)

    Obama has in their (HOUSE GOP) view violated his use of powers while in office.
    Shifted the balance of powers to his favor (dictatorship).
    Ignored the constitution (YOU should know this!!!)
    Will not work with the HOUSE!
    Has his own agenda!!
    Has hurt the AMERICAN PEOPLE in countless ways!! How? (SPENDING MONEY)
    Has approved or wants to approve things that he thinks will "help"
    the American people.....You know??? MORE UNAUTHORIZED entitlements "freebees that ALL the 46+% who want it and pay NO TAX.
    Rights for illegal immigrants and migrant workers to stay and with benefits...... Right?

    That's what I get from the house. LOL


    OH ADD THIS....
    WASHINGTON -- A day before going on vacation and heading into the election season, Republicans in the House of Representatives passed a resolution Wednesday authorizing Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) to sue President Barack Obama for what they say has been inadequate enforcement of the health care law they oppose.

    The suit would seek to make Obama strictly enforce the Affordable Care Act that Boehner has held some 50 votes to undermine or repeal. Republicans object that the Obama administration has delayed some parts of the law, particularly the mandate on employers who do not provide health care coverage.

    The measure passed 225 to 201, with five Republicans joining Democrats to oppose the lawsuit.


    "This isn't about Republicans and Democrats. It's about defending the Constitution that we swore an oath to uphold and acting decisively when it may be compromised," Boehner said shortly before his members granted him the power to sue. "No member of this body needs to be reminded what the Constitution states about the president's obligation to faithfully execute the laws of our nation. No member needs to be reminded of the bonds of trust that have been frayed or the damage that's already been done."

    Some Republicans acknowledged the lawsuit's irony. But they argued that even though they oppose the law, it's the president's job to enforce it -- and he hasn't.

    "President Obama has decided that he cannot be bothered with the separation of powers," said Rep. Tom Rice (R-S.C.). "He has bragged that if Congress will not accept his priorities he has a pen and a phone and he will make the law."

    "If there were a Republican president doing the same thing, I would feel just as strongly. This is about the Constitution," said Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-N.C.). "For too long, this body, under the leadership of both Democrats and Republicans, has ceded parts of our constitutional authority to the executive branch."

    But Democrats hammered the vote, saying it was at best a political stunt that wastes time that could be much better spent, and at worst a step toward trying to impeach Obama. Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) dubbed it "impeachment lite."

    "We're going to adjourn tomorrow for five weeks, five weeks, leaving unfinished business here," said Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), referring to Congress' annual August recess. "We have precious few hours remaining to act on the priorities of the American people and finish the can't-wait business for the Congress. So much needs to be done.

    "Republicans are putting the special interests and the howls of impeachment-hungry extremists before the needs of the nation," Pelosi said. "The lawsuit is only the latest proof of House Republicans' contempt and disregard for the priorities of the American people."

    Pelosi said Boehner should specifically say whether impeachment was off the table. Democrats mentioned the word "impeachment" more often than Republicans, and Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.) suggested that House leaders believed they were walking a narrow line to appease the "impeachment-hungry," while not alienating most Americans.

    Slaughter pointed out that Republicans did not grant Democrats the traditional "motion to recommit," an option that the minority generally is allowed to change measures at the last second on the House floor. The motions are often stunts, and generally fail, but allow the minority to get votes on the record.

    Slaughter said she asked why Democrats couldn't have the motion to recommit, and didn't get an answer. Rules Committee Chairman Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Texas) said: "The House Rules do not require that an MTR be provided for consideration of a simple resolution. House Rules require MTR on rules and joint resolutions."

    But Slaughter suggested Republicans wanted to avoid any stunts Democrats might try.

    "I think the reason is -- you know, being somewhat cynical, and I'll admit to that after what we've been through here, the cynic would say they don't want us to have a motion to recommit because our side might bring up a motion, which would be our privilege to do, that might put the Republican members on record on impeachment," Slaughter said.

    There was no immediate timeline for when the lawsuit might be filed, but it is unlikely before the fall, as the November elections are approaching.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/30/boehner-obama-lawsuit_n_5635416.html
  • AMoonHawk

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    Jul 31, 2014 2:45 AM GMT
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    Jul 31, 2014 3:48 AM GMT
    None Dare Call It Impeachment

    NYT: Let’s talk about something cheerful. How about impeachment?

    Hey, it’s been a depressing month for news. If you want to look on the bright side, you’ve got to work with what you’ve got.

    The possibility of actual impeachment is not something that keeps Barack Obama up at night. Modern history suggests there’s nothing Congress could do that the American public would hate more. Yet impeachment talk has been bounding around the Republican right for ages. The South Dakota Republican Party passed a resolution calling for impeachment at their annual convention this year. (We all know the famous saying: “As South Dakota goes, so goes North Dakota.”) Sarah Palin brings up impeachment virtually every day. Some members of Congress use it to energize the crazy base.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/31/opinion/gail-collins-none-dare-call-it-impeachment.html?ref=opinion&_r=0
  • WrestlerBoy

    Posts: 1903

    Jul 31, 2014 5:03 PM GMT
    2bnaked said
    WrestlerBoy saidhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-clears-way-for-lawsuit-against-obama/2014/07/30/7436aca6-1809-11e4-9349-84d4a85be981_story.html?wpisrc=al_comboPN_p

    LOL!!!!
    Where is their standing? What TORT against the HOUSE??????

    What assholes!!


    Listen you lesbo wanna be...... lol (joking)

    Obama has in their (HOUSE GOP) view violated his use of powers while in office.
    Shifted the balance of powers to his favor (dictatorship).
    Ignored the constitution (YOU should know this!!!)
    Will not work with the HOUSE!
    Has his own agenda!!
    Has hurt the AMERICAN PEOPLE in countless ways!! How? (SPENDING MONEY)
    Has approved or wants to approve things that he thinks will "help"
    the American people.....You know??? MORE UNAUTHORIZED entitlements "freebees that ALL the 46+% who want it and pay NO TAX.
    Rights for illegal immigrants and migrant workers to stay and with benefits...... Right?

    That's what I get from the house. LOL


    OH ADD THIS....
    WASHINGTON -- A day before going on vacation and heading into the election season, Republicans in the House of Representatives passed a resolution Wednesday authorizing Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) to sue President Barack Obama for what they say has been inadequate enforcement of the health care law they oppose.

    The suit would seek to make Obama strictly enforce the Affordable Care Act that Boehner has held some 50 votes to undermine or repeal. Republicans object that the Obama administration has delayed some parts of the law, particularly the mandate on employers who do not provide health care coverage.

    The measure passed 225 to 201, with five Republicans joining Democrats to oppose the lawsuit.


    "This isn't about Republicans and Democrats. It's about defending the Constitution that we swore an oath to uphold and acting decisively when it may be compromised," Boehner said shortly before his members granted him the power to sue. "No member of this body needs to be reminded what the Constitution states about the president's obligation to faithfully execute the laws of our nation. No member needs to be reminded of the bonds of trust that have been frayed or the damage that's already been done."

    Some Republicans acknowledged the lawsuit's irony. But they argued that even though they oppose the law, it's the president's job to enforce it -- and he hasn't.

    "President Obama has decided that he cannot be bothered with the separation of powers," said Rep. Tom Rice (R-S.C.). "He has bragged that if Congress will not accept his priorities he has a pen and a phone and he will make the law."

    "If there were a Republican president doing the same thing, I would feel just as strongly. This is about the Constitution," said Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-N.C.). "For too long, this body, under the leadership of both Democrats and Republicans, has ceded parts of our constitutional authority to the executive branch."

    But Democrats hammered the vote, saying it was at best a political stunt that wastes time that could be much better spent, and at worst a step toward trying to impeach Obama. Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) dubbed it "impeachment lite."

    "We're going to adjourn tomorrow for five weeks, five weeks, leaving unfinished business here," said Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), referring to Congress' annual August recess. "We have precious few hours remaining to act on the priorities of the American people and finish the can't-wait business for the Congress. So much needs to be done.

    "Republicans are putting the special interests and the howls of impeachment-hungry extremists before the needs of the nation," Pelosi said. "The lawsuit is only the latest proof of House Republicans' contempt and disregard for the priorities of the American people."

    Pelosi said Boehner should specifically say whether impeachment was off the table. Democrats mentioned the word "impeachment" more often than Republicans, and Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.) suggested that House leaders believed they were walking a narrow line to appease the "impeachment-hungry," while not alienating most Americans.

    Slaughter pointed out that Republicans did not grant Democrats the traditional "motion to recommit," an option that the minority generally is allowed to change measures at the last second on the House floor. The motions are often stunts, and generally fail, but allow the minority to get votes on the record.

    Slaughter said she asked why Democrats couldn't have the motion to recommit, and didn't get an answer. Rules Committee Chairman Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Texas) said: "The House Rules do not require that an MTR be provided for consideration of a simple resolution. House Rules require MTR on rules and joint resolutions."

    But Slaughter suggested Republicans wanted to avoid any stunts Democrats might try.

    "I think the reason is -- you know, being somewhat cynical, and I'll admit to that after what we've been through here, the cynic would say they don't want us to have a motion to recommit because our side might bring up a motion, which would be our privilege to do, that might put the Republican members on record on impeachment," Slaughter said.

    There was no immediate timeline for when the lawsuit might be filed, but it is unlikely before the fall, as the November elections are approaching.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/30/boehner-obama-lawsuit_n_5635416.html


    Very "nice"; we know all that. They have no STANDING in any court!
  • tazzari

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    Jul 31, 2014 5:47 PM GMT
    AND... we get to pay for it while they're being busy neglecting everything else.

    Who can doubt that it's pure theatre?
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    Aug 01, 2014 12:40 AM GMT
    JonSpringon saidI fuckin' hate politics.


    Same. I think I only started paying attention because they were fighting about gay issues. I won't know what to do with myself when the right finally loses those fights icon_lol.gif
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    Aug 01, 2014 3:39 AM GMT
    The Republicans claim Obama won't work with them. So they do THIS???


    Like that's going to help! They don't want cooperation, they want strife. It's all they have anymore.

  • frogman89

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    Aug 01, 2014 8:52 AM GMT
    That sounds like kindergarten.

    This is the problem with only two major parties. They fight each other and encumber each other's work. It's not democratic anymore because they don't do what their people want them to do, but they just want to prevent that the other one can do that.

    Instead, they should work together constructively.