HIV risk from rimming/fingering?

  • CubanTN94

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    Aug 05, 2014 12:57 AM GMT
    Hi guys,

    Recently I engaged in a threesome with two other men. I have concerns about the foreplay that we did...first off, I was wondering what my risk was for giving oral to one of them, I tasted precum but he did not ejaculate in my mouth.

    Also, one dude fingered another and then almost immediately took his finger out and started fingering me with that same finger...let's say that the first dude getting fingered had HIV, what is my risk there?

    Lastly, one of them rimmed the other and then he immediately started giving me oral after having his mouth on this guy's hole...is there any way HIV could have been transferred from this dude's butt to the other one's mouth and onto my penis?

    He then sucked and bit my nipple to the point where I am afraid that the broken skin possibly allowed for some of the virus leftover from the first guy's hole in his mouth to get into my body...am I being too paranoid here?? Sorry for the dumb questions, I am new to all this and I really want to be as safe as I can when having fun...

    Sorry if I sound ridiculous!
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    Aug 05, 2014 3:01 AM GMT
    I don't think you can get HIV by fingering someone. Now rimming though, I dunno. Maybe.
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    Aug 05, 2014 6:54 PM GMT
    Oral-Anal Contact (Rimming)

    The risk of getting HIV by rimming is very low—but this kind of sexual contact comes with a high risk of transmitting hepatitis A and B, parasites, and other bacteria to the partner who is doing the rimming.


    http://www.aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/prevention/reduce-your-risk/sexual-risk-factors/


    Really 30 years after, you have no idea? It took me 15 seconds to Google "rimming HIV risk". I didn't bother to look up fingering lol
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    Aug 05, 2014 7:50 PM GMT
    Rough fingering yes. It depends on the other guy's history. Straight or bi guys that don't do anal, probably not the biggest risk. Guy that hangs out in bars 5 times a week. Yes risk.
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    Aug 05, 2014 7:56 PM GMT
    bradomo saidRough fingering yes. It depends on the other guy's history. Straight or bi guys that don't do anal, probably not the biggest risk. Guy that hangs out in bars 5 times a week. Yes risk.


    Their liver may be at risk, but that's the weirdest bit of sero-sorting I've heard. Since the 18-24 age group had a 132% increase in HIV, many not even legally able to drink at a bar, it's better to look elsewhere.
  • CubanTN94

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    Aug 05, 2014 9:50 PM GMT
    bradomo saidRough fingering yes. It depends on the other guy's history. Straight or bi guys that don't do anal, probably not the biggest risk. Guy that hangs out in bars 5 times a week. Yes risk.


    It was a little rough unfortunately...but I also read on the POZ forums that HIV is fragile enough to the point that it would become unable to infect seconds after leaving its host (the guy that does anal a lot) bc of slight changes in temperature and PH levels, and so I think I'm ok? Haha now I really don't know what's what.
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    Aug 05, 2014 10:09 PM GMT
    CubanTN94 said
    bradomo saidRough fingering yes. It depends on the other guy's history. Straight or bi guys that don't do anal, probably not the biggest risk. Guy that hangs out in bars 5 times a week. Yes risk.


    It was a little rough unfortunately...but I also read on the POZ forums that HIV is fragile enough to the point that it would become unable to infect seconds after leaving its host (the guy that does anal a lot) bc of slight changes in temperature and PH levels, and so I think I'm ok? Haha now I really don't know what's what.


    HIV requires a bodily fluid exchange. You didn't exchange anything. You can't get it from kissing. You are worrying about nothing.
    You should be tested, NOT because of this! But because you need to checked every 6 months minimum. If for nothing else a baseline.

    And for God's sake use a condom if you haven't got a clue.
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    Aug 06, 2014 8:05 PM GMT
    It was a little rough unfortunately...but I also read on the POZ forums that HIV is fragile enough to the point that it would become unable to infect seconds after leaving its host (the guy that does anal a lot) bc of slight changes in temperature and PH levels, and so I think I'm ok? Haha now I really don't know what's what. [/quote]

    I have a friend that was a total bottom. His mexican bf. was HIV+ and they did unprotected all the time. He never was infected while his bf died. So it is difficult to transmit apparently unless there is blood contact. Just get checked and don't worry so much and be careful. Exposure to air supposedly kills most.
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    Aug 07, 2014 8:29 PM GMT
    bradomo saidIt was a little rough unfortunately...but I also read on the POZ forums that HIV is fragile enough to the point that it would become unable to infect seconds after leaving its host (the guy that does anal a lot) bc of slight changes in temperature and PH levels, and so I think I'm ok? Haha now I really don't know what's what.


    I have a friend that was a total bottom. His mexican bf. was HIV+ and they did unprotected all the time. He never was infected while his bf died. So it is difficult to transmit apparently unless there is blood contact. Just get checked and don't worry so much and be careful. Exposure to air supposedly kills most.[/quote]

    WHOA!

    Your friend was extremely lucky! That is extremely dangerous. His bf died, but was he on antivirals? Can someone get infected that way? Mostly!
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    Aug 07, 2014 11:58 PM GMT
    I'm not sure. I don't think he knew his bf was HIV+. I misquoted...He probably did use protection most of the time since it was the 90s. But he said he had unprotected often. And he must be one of the guys that is immune to the virus. He is still around without HIV.
  • Rhi_Bran

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    Aug 30, 2014 11:22 PM GMT
    Considering the severity of the disease it causes, HIV is surprisingly not very robust. HIV cannot survive for more than moments to a minute outside of a host, and is deactivated rapidly upon exposure to atmosphere, UV rays, and even slightly hostile pH's. Unless there is a direct route of entry for the virus (ie, broken skin exposed directly to blood or semen almost immediately after being drawn from the body of the positive partner), the chance of infection is very low. This is why penetrative unprotected sex is the greatest risk - there is potential for direct inner bodily fluid exchange across a broken membrane.

    Fingering carries a risk, a very small risk, but it's there all the same. The risk of infection is determined roughly by the bodily fluid and how recently it has been excreted. Blood and semen are obviously highest risk, with breast milk also being up there. Sweat and saliva do not carry the virus unless mixed with blood or semen, as they do not contain living host cells that the virus needs to reproduce and since both fluids are exposed to atmosphere immediately upon excretion. It's not found in urine either, since there are few to no host cells in urine and the highly variable pH of urine would be deadly to HIV anyways.