Discredited ‘Ex-Gay’ Therapy Group, NARTH, Undergoes Major Rebranding Effort

  • metta

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    Aug 07, 2014 6:58 AM GMT
    Discredited ‘Ex-Gay’ Therapy Group, NARTH, Undergoes Major Rebranding Effort


    http://www.twocare.org/discredited-ex-gay-therapy-group-narth-undergoes-major-rebranding-effort/



    http://www.therapeuticchoice.com/


    http://pfox.org/


    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Parents-and-Friends-of-Ex-Gays-and-Gays-PFOX/45168666591
  • jaroslav123

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    Aug 07, 2014 7:36 AM GMT
    Yuck.

    When will they just stop?
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    Aug 07, 2014 1:15 PM GMT
    Slippery slope guys!

    This is the typical liberal maneuver that seeks to limit the freedom of republicans but will create laws that can be use against gays. The Body Electric school , BodyElectric.com , uses similar techniques to teach men to be comfortable about being gay as the anti gay groups use to deprogram gay.
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    Aug 07, 2014 1:34 PM GMT
    What has being liberal got to do with it? Every major medical association has called this "therapy" futile and dangerous.

    The "lipstick on a pig" analogy Besen uses sounds spot-on to me... they will continue to try to repackage this as a quick fix as long as society buys into the idea that there is something wrong or shameful with same-sex attraction.
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    Aug 07, 2014 2:57 PM GMT
    ShiftyJK08 saidWhat has being liberal got to do with it? Every major medical association has called this "therapy" futile and dangerous.

    The "lipstick on a pig" analogy Besen uses sounds spot-on to me... they will continue to try to repackage this as a quick fix as long as society buys into the idea that there is something wrong or shameful with same-sex attraction.


    This.
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    Aug 07, 2014 3:06 PM GMT
    Alpha13 saidSlippery slope guys!

    This is the typical liberal maneuver that seeks to limit the freedom of republicans but will create laws that can be use against gays. The Body Electric school , BodyElectric.com , uses similar techniques to teach men to be comfortable about being gay as the anti gay groups use to deprogram gay.


    Not on the same plane, different slope if there is one. Ex Gay therapy has been discredited, this appears to help address one's sexuality.
    I don't know anything about their credibility http://www.thebodyelectricschool.com/
    but if their tactics are inappropriate and harmful they need to be held accountable.
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    Aug 07, 2014 4:41 PM GMT
    I thought the bit about muscle weakNess causing homosexuality amusing...
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    Aug 07, 2014 4:58 PM GMT
    Well this article gave me quite a good laugh, however the sad thing is that some believe this work. One of the related articles referred to this type of aversive therapy as junk science and I could never agree more with that statement
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    Aug 07, 2014 5:19 PM GMT
    timmm55 said
    Alpha13 saidSlippery slope guys!

    This is the typical liberal maneuver that seeks to limit the freedom of republicans but will create laws that can be use against gays. The Body Electric school , BodyElectric.com , uses similar techniques to teach men to be comfortable about being gay as the anti gay groups use to deprogram gay.


    Not on the same plane, different slope if there is one. Ex Gay therapy has been discredited, this appears to help address one's sexuality.
    I don't know anything about their credibility http://www.thebodyelectricschool.com/
    but if their tactics are inappropriate and harmful they need to be held accountable.


    It might be slippery slope-ish--like saying don't eat lard is a slippery slope to saying don't eat--but I think you're right in noting the discrediting because for that matter what isn't a slippery slope. Fortunately we find footholds along the way.
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    Aug 07, 2014 7:22 PM GMT
    Alpha13 saidSlippery slope guys!

    This is the typical liberal maneuver that seeks to limit the freedom of republicans but will create laws that can be use against gays. The Body Electric school , BodyElectric.com , uses similar techniques to teach men to be comfortable about being gay as the anti gay groups use to deprogram gay.


    I fully agree. Liberals are the cause of all the world's problems, bar none. It was true in the past, it is true now, and it ever shall be true. If we can eliminate liberal thought, the world will immediately be transformed into a paradise, El Dorado, and Shangri La all rolled into one.
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    Aug 07, 2014 7:27 PM GMT
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    Alpha13 saidSlippery slope guys!

    This is the typical liberal maneuver that seeks to limit the freedom of republicans but will create laws that can be use against gays. The Body Electric school , BodyElectric.com , uses similar techniques to teach men to be comfortable about being gay as the anti gay groups use to deprogram gay.


    Not on the same plane, different slope if there is one. Ex Gay therapy has been discredited, this appears to help address one's sexuality.
    I don't know anything about their credibility http://www.thebodyelectricschool.com/
    but if their tactics are inappropriate and harmful they need to be held accountable.


    The stuff Body Electric School does would be considered inappropriate (X rated) behavior by anyone who would try discredit them. In the eighties libs went crazy when Regan tried to declaw the FDA and USDA so their power increased. So now I get email weekly by new age groups whining that Herbs, Natural Food , natural medicines , non GMO foods are under attack by those federal agencies.
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    Aug 07, 2014 7:28 PM GMT
    smiledie said Well this article gave me quite a good laugh, however the sad thing is that some believe this work. One of the related articles referred to this type of aversive therapy as junk science and I could never agree more with that statement


    Right.

    Historically speaking, it is only recently that the mental health profession has insisted on good statistical evidence to evaluate theories and methods. "Change therapy" practitioners cannot back up their theories or methods with good statistical evidence. Compounding the problem is that many people do not understand how to evaluate procedures, "cures", etc., or the need to do so, which is why medical quackery is so profitable.
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    Aug 07, 2014 7:33 PM GMT
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    Alpha13 saidSlippery slope guys!

    This is the typical liberal maneuver that seeks to limit the freedom of republicans but will create laws that can be use against gays. The Body Electric school , BodyElectric.com , uses similar techniques to teach men to be comfortable about being gay as the anti gay groups use to deprogram gay.


    I fully agree. Liberals are the cause of all the world's problems, bar none. It was true in the past, it is true now, and it ever shall be true. If we can eliminate liberal thought, the world will immediately be transformed into a paradise, El Dorado, and Shangri La all rolled into one.



    Trying to control the behavior or others is not liberal. When I was a kid us liberal hippies tried to legalize weed. So 20 years later libs became politically correct and banned smoking altogether and almost had Woody Allen hung for being a pervert pedophile .
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    smiledie said Well this article gave me quite a good laugh, however the sad thing is that some believe this work. One of the related articles referred to this type of aversive therapy as junk science and I could never agree more with that statement


    Right.

    Historically speaking, it is only recently that the mental health profession has insisted on good statistical evidence to evaluate theories and methods. "Change therapy" practitioners cannot back up their theories or methods with good statistical evidence. Compounding the problem is that many people do not understand how to evaluate procedures, "cures", etc., or the need to do so, which is why medical quackery is so profitable.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence-based_practice
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    Aug 07, 2014 7:55 PM GMT
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    timmm55 said
    Alpha13 saidSlippery slope guys!

    This is the typical liberal maneuver that seeks to limit the freedom of republicans but will create laws that can be use against gays. The Body Electric school , BodyElectric.com , uses similar techniques to teach men to be comfortable about being gay as the anti gay groups use to deprogram gay.


    Not on the same plane, different slope if there is one. Ex Gay therapy has been discredited, this appears to help address one's sexuality.
    I don't know anything about their credibility http://www.thebodyelectricschool.com/
    but if their tactics are inappropriate and harmful they need to be held accountable.


    The stuff Body Electric School does would be considered inappropriate (X rated) behavior by anyone who would try discredit them. In the eighties libs went crazy when Regan tried to declaw the FDA and USDA so their power increased. So now I get email weekly by new age groups whining that Herbs, Natural Food , natural medicines , non GMO foods are under attack by those federal agencies.


    If you don't calm down SB will shortly call you on your panic.
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    Aug 07, 2014 8:05 PM GMT
    Too bad Dr. Kellogg isn't around anymore.

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    http://gizmodo.com/5963269/dr-kelloggs-15-most-absurd-medical-contraptions/
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    Aug 07, 2014 8:43 PM GMT
    Alpha13 said
    timmm55 said
    Alpha13 saidSlippery slope guys!

    This is the typical liberal maneuver that seeks to limit the freedom of republicans but will create laws that can be use against gays. The Body Electric school , BodyElectric.com , uses similar techniques to teach men to be comfortable about being gay as the anti gay groups use to deprogram gay.


    Not on the same plane, different slope if there is one. Ex Gay therapy has been discredited, this appears to help address one's sexuality.
    I don't know anything about their credibility http://www.thebodyelectricschool.com/
    but if their tactics are inappropriate and harmful they need to be held accountable.


    The stuff Body Electric School does would be considered inappropriate (X rated) behavior by anyone who would try discredit them. In the eighties libs went crazy when Regan tried to declaw the FDA and USDA so their power increased. So now I get email weekly by new age groups whining that Herbs, Natural Food , natural medicines , non GMO foods are under attack by those federal agencies.


    "by anyone who would try discredit them.".....X rated (consenting adults!) isn't the same as doing forced long term psychological harm to a young person.

    If this is the same to you, you are in trouble! There is no comparison!

    So you don't want the FDA or USDA to inspect the safety/claims our foods???
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    Aug 07, 2014 9:23 PM GMT
    This is what NARTH should be teaching. All 44 titles.

    http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=738139818&pkey=133908811369886173
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    Aug 07, 2014 10:27 PM GMT
    So why is it OK for democrat liberal Mayor DeBlasio of NY to convert his wife Cherlene from lesbian to hetero?

    Where's your outrage now liberals?
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    Aug 07, 2014 10:48 PM GMT
    Bad juju?
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    Aug 07, 2014 11:37 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidSo why is it OK for democrat liberal Mayor DeBlasio of NY to convert his wife Cherlene from lesbian to hetero?

    Where's your outrage now liberals?


    Hey, asshat, stop trolling, and stop posting lies.

    While Mayor de Blasio didn't "convert" his wife, it appears Fox News converted your weak-minded ass. icon_lol.gif

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election/de-blasio-wife-chirlane-mccray-talks-lesbian-article-1.1339398#RueSGVUPlz6oJwqY.97

    "McCray, who said she doesn’t like labels, declined to call herself bisexual, but suggested that she can still be attracted to women.

    'I’m married, I’m monogamous, but I’m not dead and Bill isn’t either,' she told the magazine with a laugh.

    'I know my husband loves me fiercely and passionately. I know he supports me and will always stand up for me.' "
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    Aug 07, 2014 11:38 PM GMT
    Alpha13 saidSlippery slope guys!

    This is the typical liberal maneuver that seeks to limit the freedom of republicans but will create laws that can be use against gays. The Body Electric school , BodyElectric.com , uses similar techniques to teach men to be comfortable about being gay as the anti gay groups use to deprogram gay.


    What in the name of fuck are you talking about?
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    Aug 08, 2014 12:02 AM GMT
    credo said
    mx5guynj saidSo why is it OK for democrat liberal Mayor DeBlasio of NY to convert his wife Cherlene from lesbian to hetero?

    Where's your outrage now liberals?


    Hey, asshat, stop trolling, and stop posting lies.

    While Mayor de Blasio didn't "convert" his wife, it appears Fox News converted your weak-minded ass. icon_lol.gif

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election/de-blasio-wife-chirlane-mccray-talks-lesbian-article-1.1339398#RueSGVUPlz6oJwqY.97

    "McCray, who said she doesn’t like labels, declined to call herself bisexual, but suggested that she can still be attracted to women.

    'I’m married, I’m monogamous, but I’m not dead and Bill isn’t either,' she told the magazine with a laugh.

    'I know my husband loves me fiercely and passionately. I know he supports me and will always stand up for me.' "


    She was a lesbian when she met Bill:
    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/10/31/chirlane-mccray-bill-de-blasio-partners-in-life-politics/

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/15/chirlane-mccray-bill-de-blasio-mayor-lesbian_n_3279760.html
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    Aug 08, 2014 12:03 AM GMT
    bon_pan saidBad juju?


    Stereotype much?
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    Aug 08, 2014 12:34 AM GMT
    credo said
    Alpha13 saidSlippery slope guys!

    This is the typical liberal maneuver that seeks to limit the freedom of republicans but will create laws that can be use against gays. The Body Electric school , BodyElectric.com , uses similar techniques to teach men to be comfortable about being gay as the anti gay groups use to deprogram gay.


    What in the name of fuck are you talking about?


    Try educating yourself. Contrary to conventional wisdom being Gay is a very disturbing experience for some guys, hence the high rate of teen suicides.

    So Body Electric teaches gays to get comfortable with it. It you come down hard on gay therapy you will inadvertently come down on pro - gay therapy. As I stated before they use similar methods . Critics would call it brain washing, coercion etc., etc.