Prostate Health

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    Aug 16, 2014 3:55 PM GMT
    Are there any particular foods/drinks/vitamins/etc that are geared towards your prostate? I'm only 31 and have already had one prostate infection and I remember as a kid my dad had a few as well. is there any particular age in which you should be "concerned" or are there any other warning signs about deteriorating prostate function?

    on a somewhat related topic, does bottoming have any "long-term" affects on the prostate?
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    Aug 16, 2014 6:12 PM GMT
    I don't know if they still do but way back when I was a young sprat there were commercials from Knox gelatin directed at women touting its effectiveness at strengthening nails. Since it's made from bones and hooves and is primarily the same stuff that makes up our nails the theory was that consuming it made your nails stronger.

    Similarly, when the high fat diet consumption worries first started we believed that eating foods high in cholesterol raised your blood cholesterol.

    Using the same simplistic logic we could come to the conclusion that consuming lots of cum is good for the prostate. icon_twisted.gif
  • LJay

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    Aug 17, 2014 1:18 PM GMT
    I thought the current advice was to ejaculate on a regular basis.

    If a history of prostate infections runs in your family, you should have a talk with your doctor, not the interwebs. Let us know what you find out.
  • tbeaux

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    Aug 17, 2014 3:29 PM GMT
    There is really no other prevention other than leading a healthy lifestyle. Unfortunately genetics plays a huge role in many diseases. Here's are quick prevention tips:

    Current literature suggests: 1) Eating fish. 2) Eating more vegetable fats and fruits. 3) Reduce alcohol intake, and drinking anything late at night. 4) Reducing the amount of fat in your diet. 5) exercising regularly. 6) keeping an appropriate BMI.

    It is suggested to get your prostate checked at 35 years of age. Due to your predicament I would get it checked now and go for routine check ups every 5 years I think it is. Overtime men's prostates begin to enlarge causing BPH and can develop cancer.
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    Aug 17, 2014 4:40 PM GMT
    Reputedly, saw palmetto has been said to help. But check with your physician first!

    http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/lifestyle-guide-11/supplement-guide-saw-palmetto

    http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/971.html
  • madsexy

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    Aug 17, 2014 6:36 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidI don't know if they still do but way back when I was a young sprat there were commercials from Knox gelatin directed at women touting its effectiveness at strengthening nails. Since it's made from bones and hooves and is primarily the same stuff that makes up our nails the theory was that consuming it made your nails stronger.

    Similarly, when the high fat diet consumption worries first started we believed that eating foods high in cholesterol raised your blood cholesterol.

    Using the same simplistic logic we could come to the conclusion that consuming lots of cum is good for the prostate. icon_twisted.gif

    Guess I'm covered then! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    Seriously though in answer to the OP's last question everything I've read suggests that bottoming does NOT have any impact on contracting prostate cancer.
  • blueandgold

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    Aug 17, 2014 8:34 PM GMT
    willular saidAre there any particular foods/drinks/vitamins/etc that are geared towards your prostate? I'm only 31 and have already had one prostate infection and I remember as a kid my dad had a few as well. is there any particular age in which you should be "concerned" or are there any other warning signs about deteriorating prostate function?

    on a somewhat related topic, does bottoming have any "long-term" affects on the prostate?

    Is your prostate enlarged?
  • Beeftastic

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    Aug 17, 2014 10:04 PM GMT
    Regular prostate massage helps too. Now I wonder where a gay man gets a prostate massage? From a penis?
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    Aug 17, 2014 10:36 PM GMT
    willular saidAre there any particular foods/drinks/vitamins/etc that are geared towards your prostate?

    on a somewhat related topic, does bottoming have any "long-term" affects on the prostate?

    I was diagnosed with chronic prostatitis (infection) in my mid-30s. I was given a Septra DS (similar to Bactrim) oral antibiotic treatment about once a year, to deal with recurrences. My prostate was almost always tender, made bottoming very difficult when I came out in my 40s.

    By 62 I had developed prostate cancer. Successfully treated (so far) with radiation.

    My urologists all told me to try the home remedy of drinking cranberry juice, and it really does seem to help, lets me pee better. In fact, no fooling, I've got a cup of it in front of me right this minute. I drink it daily. But get the Ocean Spray brand Original, not the cocktails & blends mixed with apple juice and other stuff. Check the label for the ingredients, you want only pure cranberry juice, usually sweetened with some corn syrup or something.

    Given your history, have your PSA (prostate specific antigen) checked at least annually in blood work. A spike can mean an infection. Or worse. If the PSA doesn't come down after antibiotics, you need to have a biopsy. A top-line urologist, like I used, has procedures that aren't very unpleasant today.

    It used to be Hell, but not so bad now. They stick a device up your butt, you feel a few pinches, it's nothing.

    If they find malignancy the doctors will give you options, based on their evaluation of the cancer. Sometimes if it's early they'll say you can watch & wait, do nothing. In my case the cancer was advanced and aggressive, little option but to intervene. My only choice was by what method, radiation or surgical removal.

    Once you have a history of prostate problems you need to monitor its condition. Some urologists say chronic infection is not a precursor of later cancer. I'm not so sure. But whatever, keep checking your PSA. Which is not an indicator of cancer, but rather of any kind of distress to the prostate, including infection. And also, overuse! Which is why you'll usually be told to abstain from sex 48-36 hours before a blood draw for best PSA results.
  • ScandalFan

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    Aug 18, 2014 12:03 AM GMT
    It's a simple blood test and digital exam. You need both to be certain. With your history and family history, you should be checked at least annually.
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    Art_Deco said
    willular saidAre there any particular foods/drinks/vitamins/etc that are geared towards your prostate?

    on a somewhat related topic, does bottoming have any "long-term" affects on the prostate?

    I was diagnosed with chronic prostatitis (infection) in my mid-30s. I was given Septra DS (similar to Bactrim) oral antibiotic about once a year, to deal with recurrences. My prostate was almost always tender, made bottoming very difficult when I came out in my 40s.

    By 62 I had developed prostate cancer. Successfully treated (so far) with radiation.

    My urologists all told me to try the home remedy of drinking cranberry juice, and it really does seem to help, lets me pee better. In fact, no fooling, I've got a cup of it in front of me right this minute. I drink it daily. But get the Ocean Spray brand Original, not the cocktails & blends mixed with apple juice and other stuff. Check the label for the ingredients, you want only pure cranberry juice, usually sweetened with some corn syrup or something.

    Given your history, have your PSA (prostate specific antigen) checked at least annually in blood work. A spike can mean an infection. Or worse. If the PSA doesn't come down after antibiotics, you need to have a biopsy. A top-line urologist, like I used, has procedures that aren't very unpleasant today.

    It used to be Hell, but not so bad now. They stick a device up your butt, you feel a few pinches, it's nothing.

    If they find malignancy the doctors will give you options, based on their evaluation of the cancer. Sometimes if it's early they'll say you can watch & wait, do nothing. In my case the cancer was advanced and aggressive, little option but to intervene. My only choice was by what method, radiation or surgical removal.

    Once you have a history of prostate problems you need to monitor its condition. Some urologists say chronic infection is not a precursor of later cancer. I'm not so sure. But whatever, keep checking your PSA. Which is not an indicator of cancer, but rather of any kind of distress to the prostate, including infection. And also, overuse! Which is why you'll usually be told to abstain from sex 48-36 hours before a blood draw for best PSA results.


    thanks man -- appreciate the info.
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    Aug 18, 2014 12:28 AM GMT
    willular said
    thanks man -- appreciate the info.

    My pleasure, to help a brother RJer. I've been through all this, no need for you to reinvent the wheel. Though admittedly each case can be unique, but still, knowing all the angles is useful, the questions to ask your doctors, some things to expect. PE me as you wish.
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    Aug 18, 2014 3:28 AM GMT
    Good luck trying to get that PSA test paid for since Obama's death panel doesn't rate the PSA test high enough to be covered.

    I guess the test must be beneficial since Obama gets one:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/07/05/is-president-obamas-prostate-gland-more-important-than-yours/

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    Aug 18, 2014 11:51 AM GMT
    blueandgold said
    willular saidAre there any particular foods/drinks/vitamins/etc that are geared towards your prostate? I'm only 31 and have already had one prostate infection and I remember as a kid my dad had a few as well. is there any particular age in which you should be "concerned" or are there any other warning signs about deteriorating prostate function?

    on a somewhat related topic, does bottoming have any "long-term" affects on the prostate?

    Is your prostate enlarged?


    base and immature reaction: if I were around you, my prostrate would certainly be enlarged . . . icon_redface.gif
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    Aug 18, 2014 3:15 PM GMT
    willular said... PSA doesn't come down after antibiotics, you need to have a biopsy. A top-line urologist, like I used, has procedures that aren't very unpleasant today. It used to be Hell, but not so bad now. They stick a device up your butt, you feel a few pinches, it's nothing
    your cum will be red for a week or two.
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    Aug 18, 2014 8:36 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidGood luck trying to get that PSA test paid for since Obama's death panel doesn't rate the PSA test high enough to be covered.

    I guess the test must be beneficial since Obama gets one:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/07/05/is-president-obamas-prostate-gland-more-important-than-yours/



    Obamacare probably has nothing to do with it, most likely it is the quality of your insurance, that denies you. I have no problem getting it paid for through my insurance. Typical for anti Obama people to blame Obama for everything and continue to spread miss information about Obamacare, which is already helping millions get better healthcare. There is not one single American who has not reaped some benefit from Obamacare already, although most right wingers and Republicans will not tell you that they are getting some benefit also.
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    Aug 19, 2014 3:00 PM GMT
    not trying to get political here regarding health insurance, since I'm active duty military, I don't have to pay for anything anyway when I see a military treatment facility.

    but basically I'm just looking for ways to have a healthy prostate...I don't want to end up having it removed due to cancer/infection/etc. and be stuck with a bag next to me the rest of my life because I can't shit or piss on my own anymore.

    half of my family has bad genes anyway and i'm pretty sure I'm going to die of a heart attack or some kind of cancer anyway...and I guess I'm ok with that---just as long as it's not involving my dick or my ass icon_sad.gif
  • madsexy

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    Aug 19, 2014 6:24 PM GMT
    Koaa2 said
    mx5guynj saidGood luck trying to get that PSA test paid for since Obama's death panel doesn't rate the PSA test high enough to be covered.

    I guess the test must be beneficial since Obama gets one:

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2012/07/05/is-president-obamas-prostate-gland-more-important-than-yours/



    Obamacare probably has nothing to do with it, most likely it is the quality of your insurance, that denies you. I have no problem getting it paid for through my insurance. Typical for anti Obama people to blame Obama for everything and continue to spread miss information about Obamacare, which is already helping millions get better healthcare. There is not one single American who has not reaped some benefit from Obamacare already, although most right wingers and Republicans will not tell you that they are getting some benefit also.

    I don't disagree that Obamacare has helped people get insurance who couldn't before but you're wrong about "not one single American who has not reaped some benefit from Obamacare already". And I am taking license because I'm not American just legally living and working in America so subject to similar benefits and issues. In my case our health care through my work changed much to the detriment of EVERY SINGLE covered individual both in costs and covered services.
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    Aug 20, 2014 2:12 PM GMT
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    Lumpyoatmeal saidI don't know if they still do but way back when I was a young sprat there were commercials from Knox gelatin directed at women touting its effectiveness at strengthening nails. Since it's made from bones and hooves and is primarily the same stuff that makes up our nails the theory was that consuming it made your nails stronger.

    Similarly, when the high fat diet consumption worries first started we believed that eating foods high in cholesterol raised your blood cholesterol.

    Using the same simplistic logic we could come to the conclusion that consuming lots of cum is good for the prostate. icon_twisted.gif

    Guess I'm covered then! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    Seriously though in answer to the OP's last question everything I've read suggests that bottoming does NOT have any impact on contracting prostate cancer.


    Not sure where you are getting your reading material from but if it is well researched sources, you can at best state that evidence is inconclusive re. bottoming and it's link to prostate cancer.

    There are some studies that have linked increase risk for those men who have regular receptive anal particularly if there is a lot of pressure against the prostate, which is not meant to be exposed to heavy pressure. Larger penis sizes increase that risk and if you are pre-disposed through genetics to be a more likely candidate, your bottoming behaviour is as likely a causal link as smoking to lung cancer.

    The problem is there has not been enough extensive research at this point in time which monitors the longer term effects
  • madsexy

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    Aug 20, 2014 6:39 PM GMT
    Sydneyrugbyjock73 said
    madsexy said
    Lumpyoatmeal saidI don't know if they still do but way back when I was a young sprat there were commercials from Knox gelatin directed at women touting its effectiveness at strengthening nails. Since it's made from bones and hooves and is primarily the same stuff that makes up our nails the theory was that consuming it made your nails stronger.

    Similarly, when the high fat diet consumption worries first started we believed that eating foods high in cholesterol raised your blood cholesterol.

    Using the same simplistic logic we could come to the conclusion that consuming lots of cum is good for the prostate. icon_twisted.gif

    Guess I'm covered then! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    Seriously though in answer to the OP's last question everything I've read suggests that bottoming does NOT have any impact on contracting prostate cancer.


    Not sure where you are getting your reading material from but if it is well researched sources, you can at best state that evidence is inconclusive re. bottoming and it's link to prostate cancer.

    There are some studies that have linked increase risk for those men who have regular receptive anal particularly if there is a lot of pressure against the prostate, which is not meant to be exposed to heavy pressure. Larger penis sizes increase that risk and if you are pre-disposed through genetics to be a more likely candidate, your bottoming behaviour is as likely a causal link as smoking to lung cancer.

    The problem is there has not been enough extensive research at this point in time which monitors the longer term effects

    I've read a lot and agree that there are theories I've read but not based on factual evidence just theories that pressure should cause issues but no relationship to statistics or evidence of increased occurrence or even risk. Everything I've read that there was any attempted statistical correlation - not that there have been many that took it that far - say there is not empirical evidence to that effect.
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    Oct 15, 2014 3:14 PM GMT
    Had a Dr's appointment for a prostate exam , ultrasound and biopsy.

    The DRE was OK and the ultrasound was OK ,, but when they stuck that needle in for the biopsy , damn warn me that it hurts.

    He stuck me two times for fluid samples , bee stings didn't hurt that bad.icon_eek.gif
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    Oct 15, 2014 3:34 PM GMT
    Buttholeboy saidHad a Dr's appointment for a prostate exam , ultrasound and biopsy.

    The DRE was OK and the ultrasound was OK ,, but when they stuck that needle in for the biopsy , damn warn me that it hurts.

    He stuck me two times for fluid samples , bee stings didn't hurt that bad.icon_eek.gif

    My husband had told me how much his own prostate biopsies hurt horribly, a factor in my delaying when the doctors were telling me I needed one urgently. When my PSA went over 14 and didn't respond to antibiotics, throwing into doubt that it was just one of my recurring prostate infections, I finally agreed.

    But this urolgist said he had the latest biopsy equipment, not as painful as the older version used on my husband years earlier. He took 12 biopsy tissue samples from my prostate through my rectum (my husband had 4), and it was quite managable for me.

    Toward the end I told the doctor he could take more samples if he needed, I had realized these little pinches were almost nothing, I had totally adjusted to it. And I'm no masochist, trust me.

    I seem to recall a small amount of blood afterwards, and a little soreness for a day or so, but it quickly passed. Definitely worth doing, as they did find cancer, that we immediately began treating because it was advanced. And late-detected prostate cancer is what killed my father.
  • Destinharbor

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    Oct 15, 2014 4:20 PM GMT
    Ya, get a good urologist that you believe is up to speed on the medical literature. There have been some studies lately (mostly in England) that suggest that the specialty has been over-reacting to the PSA alone and that the procedures may cause more harm than the disease itself. But with a family history, and being young, you should be watched by someone good. They're developing some non-invasive protocols so don't fear the visit. But do ask him what he thinks of the new data coming out about diagnostic failure (false positives) and also, be real straight with him that you're a practicing gay guy that bottoms and what are the implications of that where you're concerned. If you don't like the way he reacts, get a new urologist. Most are totally professional but make sure yours is cool.
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    Oct 26, 2014 10:07 AM GMT
    Anyone ever hear of a False positive in prostate biopsy......

    My Dr wants me to have another prostate biopsy cause one sample tested positive while other was negative.

    He's setting up appointment at some urological clinic in Atlanta...so here goes for round two.
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    Oct 26, 2014 4:22 PM GMT
    Buttholeboy saidAnyone ever hear of a False positive in prostate biopsy......

    My Dr wants me to have another prostate biopsy cause one sample tested positive while other was negative.

    He's setting up appointment at some urological clinic in Atlanta...so here goes for round two.

    It's possible. All lab tests have possibility of giving false positives.