“When police take a life, should they investigate themselves?” a white father asks after his son was murdered by a police officer

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    Aug 20, 2014 12:06 AM GMT
    What I Did After Police Killed My Son

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/08/what-i-did-after-police-killed-my-son-110038_Page2.html

    " Our country is simply not paying enough attention to the terrible lack of accountability of police departments and the way it affects all of us—regardless of race or ethnicity.

    Because if a blond-haired, blue-eyed boy — that was my son, Michael — can be shot in the head under a street light with his hands cuffed behind his back, in front of five eyewitnesses (including his mother and sister), and his father was a retired Air Force lieutenant colonel who flew in three wars for his country — that’s me — and I still couldn’t get anything done about it,

    then Joe the plumber and Javier the roofer aren’t going to be able to do anything about it either
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    Aug 20, 2014 2:11 AM GMT
    Because the whole American system of justice is corrupt and broken beyond repair. The American people have only themselves to blame because they are so apathetic about wrongdoings in our political and judicial systems. The typical American response today is that there is nothing we can do about it. Apathy among the masses just encourages and emboldens politicians, police officers, and many other public servants to commit serious wrongdoings and than get away with it. Tragically sad but unfortunately trueicon_sad.gif
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    Aug 20, 2014 2:21 AM GMT
    " Apathy among the masses just encourages and emboldens politicians, police officers, and many other public servants to commit serious wrongdoings and then get away with it."

    Well said.

    And it will only change when we can keep all of our public servants(politicians included) under surveillance.

    To Avoid More Fergusons, Make Cops Wear Cameras


    http://reason.com/blog/2014/08/14/to-avoid-more-fergusons-make-cops-wear-c

  • roadbikeRob

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    Aug 20, 2014 2:32 AM GMT

    I have an even better idea, lets permanently abolish this paramilitary concept in police work. The whole idea of making police departments paramilitary organizations is a disastrous failure that has severely strained relations between police officers and the general public.
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    Aug 20, 2014 2:41 AM GMT
    I've been saying for years that we need a "stand your ground" law that allows citizens to use lethal force against rogue cops, just as it's allowed against rogue citizens.
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    Aug 20, 2014 2:42 AM GMT
    But "Law and Order" Republicans continue to endorse a concept of police supremacy on which they have successfully campaigned since Richard Nixon, and want this situation to continue.

    Not to mention all the money they earn, from the privatization of the prison system they've engineered to receive all the convicts the police create. The more inmates, the more campaign "contributions" (aka bribes) they receive from private prison companies, and their investors.

    With the result that the United States (the "Home of the Free") has more people in prison than any country on Earth, and also the highest percentage per its population. Even Communist countries are lower.

    Now you can REALLY shout: "We're Number One! We're Number One!"
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    Aug 20, 2014 2:44 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidI've been saying for years that we need a "stand your ground" law that allows citizens to use lethal force against rogue cops, just as it's allowed against rogue citizens.

    Fat chance of THAT ever happening. "Stand Your Ground" was designed by Republicans to protect Whites against minorities, and will never be applied to police.
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    Aug 20, 2014 3:22 AM GMT
    ". we all should be worried. when one person's civil rights is violated or gets treated badly for whatever reason whether it's because they're black, a woman, gay, short, or whatever the fuck else. it can also happen to you too"


    Out of control cops can perceive any of us as a threat....and their miscalculation could kill us.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Aug 20, 2014 3:38 AM GMT
    I believe every shooting should be investigated and the police in question should be taken off duty without pay until the investigation determines whether it was a good or bad kill. This would eliminate a positive reinforcement for killing people. The investigation should be done by an outside party not part of the local law enforcement. If it is found to be a bad kill then he/she should be given a trial just like any other American citizen. The same goes for beating people to death, and death by tazer etc.
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    Aug 21, 2014 2:48 PM GMT
    Art_Deco: But "Law and Order" Republicans continue to endorse a concept of police supremacy on which they have successfully campaigned since Richard Nixon, and want this situation to continue.

    Not to mention all the money they earn, from the privatization of the prison system they've engineered to receive all the convicts the police create. The more inmates, the more campaign "contributions" (aka bribes) they receive from private prison companies, and their investors.

    With the result that the United States (the "Home of the Free") has more people in prison than any country on Earth, and also the highest percentage per its population. Even Communist countries are lower.

    Now you can REALLY shout: "We're Number One! We're Number One!"


    Another topic, another superficial, simple-minded rant against Republicans.

    The mayor of Kenosha at the time Bell's son was executed was a Democrat. He served for 16 years.

    Conservatives are increasingly skeptical of the burgeoning police state.

    It's Maobama and his accomplices who are militarizing every federal agency. Even the Department of Education (WTC?) and NOAA (WTC?) now have heavily armed agents. Under Maobama the feds are acquiring billions of rounds of hollow point ammunition. WHY?

    One big reason for America's large prison population is the stupid, failed War on Drugs.

    Another reason is the stupid, failed refusal of the federal government to secure the border. If a federal function is illegitimate it expands like cancer. If a federal function is legitimate, it is neglected.

    No matter what the big, stupid federal government declares war on, be it drugs, illiteracy, or poverty, $trillions are wasted and then drugs, illiteracy, and poverty win.

    Regarding the "war on terror," numb-nuts Democrats announced that Al Qaeda was on the run and that ISIS was "junior varsity." What could go wrong?

    Thanks to six years of numb-nuts Democrats, we seem to be on the verge of a race war.

    The DEA spends $billions, employs 10,800 people, including over 5,000 very expensive Special Agents.
    This has been going on for decades.

    Is the drug problem in America better or worse than it was decades ago?

    When it comes to corrupt political contributions, especially from unions, the Democrat Mafia can't be beat.

    The Democrat Party, big, stupid, out-of-control government, and big, out-of-control unions, all feed off of each other.

    The remedy for big, stupid, out-of-control government, including the kind of government which executes unarmed citizens, is not more Dummycrats.

    The only hope of turning this mess around is to vote Tea Party and support a Convention of the States to restore constitutional limited government.