Iranian Muslim lesbians marry in religious ceremony in Sweden

  • metta

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    Aug 20, 2014 6:25 AM GMT
    Iranian Muslim lesbians marry in religious ceremony in Sweden


    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/iranian-muslim-lesbians-marry-religious-ceremony-sweden200814
  • Crepuscule

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    Aug 20, 2014 8:36 AM GMT
    An interesting anecdotal note is that the parents of one of them were more concerned that their daughter was marrying a handicapped person than that she was marrying a woman :-)
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    Aug 20, 2014 4:27 PM GMT
    I wish them happy marriage. The ceremony was beautiful. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 20, 2014 5:45 PM GMT
    How ironic. Another set of muslims who pick and choose, if they truly are muslim.
  • johnnyqhomo7

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    Aug 20, 2014 8:22 PM GMT
    what do you mean pick and choose?
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    Aug 20, 2014 11:24 PM GMT
    johnnyqhomo7 saidwhat do you mean pick and choose?


    Are you serious?
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    Aug 20, 2014 11:25 PM GMT
    There's no reason that people shouldn't take what they want from any given religion and leave what doesn't help them. At the fundamental level, religion is about a personal relationship with God, and everything else is just cultural.
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    Aug 20, 2014 11:54 PM GMT
    shawnathan saidThere's no reason that people shouldn't take what they want from any given religion and leave what doesn't help them. At the fundamental level, religion is about a personal relationship with God, and everything else is just cultural.


    That's religion as you define it, maybe, but we should let religions define themselves. The concept of an "individual relationship with God" is markedly absent from Judaism, for example, compared to Protestant Christianity. In Judaism, it is the collective -- God's relationship with the People of Israel -- that matters.
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    Aug 20, 2014 11:55 PM GMT
    shawnathan saidThere's no reason that people shouldn't take what they want from any given religion and leave what doesn't help them. At the fundamental level, religion is about a personal relationship with God, and everything else is just cultural.


    And Christians are constantly taking shit from the secular left about "picking and choosing" which parts of the Bible to believe. The least we can do is apply this principle consistently.
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    Aug 21, 2014 1:34 AM GMT
    Sweetooth saidHow ironic. Another set of muslims who pick and choose, if they truly are muslim.


    Regardless of religion, most people pick and choose, including even those who deny doing so.
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    Aug 21, 2014 1:35 AM GMT
    shawnathan saidThere's no reason that people shouldn't take what they want from any given religion and leave what doesn't help them. At the fundamental level, religion is about a personal relationship with God, and everything else is just cultural.


    Upon checking my concordance, I found that the word "personal" does not even occur in the Bible.
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    Aug 21, 2014 2:25 AM GMT
    It just warms my heart when a positive thread about people loving each other gets shit on by people debating religious ideology.
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    Aug 21, 2014 2:48 AM GMT
    shawnathan saidThere's no reason that people shouldn't take what they want from any given religion and leave what doesn't help them. At the fundamental level, religion is about a personal relationship with God, and everything else is just cultural.


    Umm, that's not how God works. Did God say you can pick and choose? No.
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    Aug 21, 2014 2:49 AM GMT
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    Sweetooth saidHow ironic. Another set of muslims who pick and choose, if they truly are muslim.


    Regardless of religion, most people pick and choose, including even those who deny doing so.


    I don't subscribe to religion, so if you are calling hypocrites out, it doesn't apply to me.
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    Aug 21, 2014 6:31 AM GMT
    There are plenty of LGBT muslims, not all are crazy ass fanatics.
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    Aug 21, 2014 6:53 AM GMT
    awesome, good for them, wish them happiness.
  • johnnyqhomo7

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    Aug 21, 2014 8:11 PM GMT
    hi fellow homos. I am a gay Christian, 34, black, gay. This is my first real post on this site so I want to make it worthwhile. While religion is specifically supposed to provide a framework for understanding the world and our relationship to God , it is often perverted and twisted into something. The way the Bible for example has been used against the homosexual people and used to oppress them. I guess I am like this, "to each his own.". Right now im studying Islam and doing some research on Judaism. I think the fact that Jesus brings freedom to choose what you believe is important. Anyhow. On the Muslim issue, I think this is EXCELLENT for the Muslim community, it will provide them a new paradigm for gay straight relations. I even heard that it had a gay imam(religious leader in Islam). I was sorta shocked there could be gay imams, but gay people are everywhere so. Long live the homosexual people! Peace everyone.
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    Aug 21, 2014 8:47 PM GMT
    shawnathan saidThere's no reason that people shouldn't take what they want from any given religion and leave what doesn't help them. At the fundamental level, religion is about a personal relationship with God, and everything else is just cultural.



    Actually Shawnathan, at the Fundie level the entire bible is absolutely correct and all of it must be adhered to. Fundamentalism is the worst thing to happen to religion. Muslim fundamentalists are the nasty ones of that faith.
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    Aug 21, 2014 8:49 PM GMT
    Sweetooth said
    shawnathan saidThere's no reason that people shouldn't take what they want from any given religion and leave what doesn't help them. At the fundamental level, religion is about a personal relationship with God, and everything else is just cultural.


    Umm, that's not how God works. Did God say you can pick and choose? No.


    As you don't subscribe to religion, sweetooth, I'm rather intrigued that you know how God works (and you don't, you only know fundamentalism).

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    meninlove said
    shawnathan saidThere's no reason that people shouldn't take what they want from any given religion and leave what doesn't help them. At the fundamental level, religion is about a personal relationship with God, and everything else is just cultural.



    Actually Shawnathan, at the Fundie level the entire bible is absolutely correct and all of it must be adhered to. Fundamentalism is the worst thing to happen to religion. Muslim fundamentalists are the nasty ones of that faith.


    Couldn't agree more. Remember that in the Middle Ages, before the Renaissance, Muslim countries were the cultural center of the world. But that was so long ago -- what the hell happened to Islam in the interim? Answer: Fundamentalism.
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    Aug 22, 2014 2:09 AM GMT
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    meninlove said
    shawnathan saidThere's no reason that people shouldn't take what they want from any given religion and leave what doesn't help them. At the fundamental level, religion is about a personal relationship with God, and everything else is just cultural.



    Actually Shawnathan, at the Fundie level the entire bible is absolutely correct and all of it must be adhered to. Fundamentalism is the worst thing to happen to religion. Muslim fundamentalists are the nasty ones of that faith.


    Couldn't agree more. Remember that in the Middle Ages, before the Renaissance, Muslim countries were the cultural center of the world. But that was so long ago -- what the hell happened to Islam in the interim? Answer: Fundamentalism.


    You're right. Muslims preserved the ancient Greek and Roman literature. They were way ahead in art, science, medicine, etc., until they went through a ghastly change. Too bad.
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    Sweetooth said
    shawnathan saidThere's no reason that people shouldn't take what they want from any given religion and leave what doesn't help them. At the fundamental level, religion is about a personal relationship with God, and everything else is just cultural.


    Umm, that's not how God works. Did God say you can pick and choose? No.


    As you don't subscribe to religion, sweetooth, I'm rather intrigued that you know how God works (and you don't, you only know fundamentalism).



    He's a former Muslim.
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    meninlove said
    Sweetooth said
    shawnathan saidThere's no reason that people shouldn't take what they want from any given religion and leave what doesn't help them. At the fundamental level, religion is about a personal relationship with God, and everything else is just cultural.


    Umm, that's not how God works. Did God say you can pick and choose? No.


    As you don't subscribe to religion, sweetooth, I'm rather intrigued that you know how God works (and you don't, you only know fundamentalism).



    Am I wrong? Did God make mistakes? Can we pick and choose that which supersedes us in every single way? I am not even being rude, I am simply curious... That being said, I do not know what you mean by me only knowing fundamentalism.
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    Aug 22, 2014 3:16 AM GMT
    kevex said
    meninlove said
    Sweetooth said
    shawnathan saidThere's no reason that people shouldn't take what they want from any given religion and leave what doesn't help them. At the fundamental level, religion is about a personal relationship with God, and everything else is just cultural.


    Umm, that's not how God works. Did God say you can pick and choose? No.


    As you don't subscribe to religion, sweetooth, I'm rather intrigued that you know how God works (and you don't, you only know fundamentalism).



    He's a former Muslim.


    I am not.
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    Aug 22, 2014 3:19 AM GMT
    Sweetooth said
    kevex said
    meninlove said
    Sweetooth said
    shawnathan saidThere's no reason that people shouldn't take what they want from any given religion and leave what doesn't help them. At the fundamental level, religion is about a personal relationship with God, and everything else is just cultural.


    Umm, that's not how God works. Did God say you can pick and choose? No.


    As you don't subscribe to religion, sweetooth, I'm rather intrigued that you know how God works (and you don't, you only know fundamentalism).



    He's a former Muslim.


    I am not.


    I meant that you used to be a muslim. Therefor former muslim lol