There are No Bad Cops...and Cops Never Make Mistakes (legally speaking)

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    Aug 22, 2014 3:22 PM GMT
    http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119157/darren-wilsons-conviction-will-be-basically-impossible

    Convicting Darren Wilson Will Be Basically Impossible
    You can thank Missouri law for that

    "Under Missouri law, all a citizen claiming self-defense or a police officer claiming to have fired while pursuing a dangerous criminal need do is “inject the issue of justification.” In other words, he only needs to produce some evidence (his own testimony counts) supporting the claim."


    This is very similar to the George Zimmerman case. Whether the victim was armed or not, IF YOU FEEL THREATENED YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SHOOT AND KILL.

    That 'feeling' doesn't have to be supported by evidence either.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Aug 23, 2014 4:03 AM GMT

    Obviously there is something horribly wrong with our criminal justice system. There are also many laws that support this kind of hostile, unacceptable behavior that need to be repealed. This country has allowed paranoia to run roughshod over the rule of law and respect for other groups of people. Missouri definitely needs to revisit this law and either re word it or abolish it. This is totally unacceptable.
  • jaroslav123

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    Aug 23, 2014 10:17 AM GMT
    The law isn't blind as they'd like to tell us. It's designed so those at the top can escape it and those at the bottom get fucked.

    Tax-dodging is illegal, but if you're a huge company and find the loopholes, then it become instantly legal.

    Our government in the UK says they've been wishing to "reform" loopholes and tax-dodging. They've been saying this for years. They still haven't done any reforming. And I'm still waiting.

    There's a reason why I'm still waiting.

    They say their gunna reform the EU and reform the way it affects laws that are passed. They say they're going to reform this so that the UK has more of a say, so that we don't have to get caught up in the madness of the EU. They still haven't done any reforming. They've been saying this for years. And I'm still waiting.

    Likewise, they said they'd offer a referendum on the EU in the last election. There hasn't been a referendum for us in the UK. They say they'll offer it next time so long as we vote for the right people on election day.

    I'll vote for them, and I'll still be waiting.

    There's a reason why I'll still be waiting.

    They said they'd reform institutional racism in the police. They said they'd reform the healthcare service. They said they'd reform immigration. And I'm still waiting.
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    Aug 23, 2014 2:52 PM GMT
    Determinate saidhttp://www.newrepublic.com/article/119157/darren-wilsons-conviction-will-be-basically-impossible

    Convicting Darren Wilson Will Be Basically Impossible
    You can thank Missouri law for that

    "Under Missouri law, all a citizen claiming self-defense or a police officer claiming to have fired while pursuing a dangerous criminal need do is “inject the issue of justification.” In other words, he only needs to produce some evidence (his own testimony counts) supporting the claim."


    This is very similar to the George Zimmerman case. Whether the victim was armed or not, IF YOU FEEL THREATENED YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SHOOT AND KILL.

    That 'feeling' doesn't have to be supported by evidence either.


    http://www.newrepublic.com/article/119157/darren-wilsons-conviction-will-be-basically-impossible
    "But legal judgments rarely happen with perfect knowledge and absolute certainty."

    The same can be said of judgments made by police officers using force in the heat of the moment. It is perfectly logical (and a general tenet of criminal law around the world) that anyone using force to effect an arrest or in self-defence or in the prevention of crime, should be judged on the facts as they believed them to be. Of course, if the facts of the case tend to show that the defendant used excessive force in the circumstances, that is evidence from which a court may infer he was not acting reasonably (and he could be charged and convicted accordingly).
  • conservativej...

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    Aug 23, 2014 4:45 PM GMT
    Determinate saidhttp://www.newrepublic.com/article/119157/darren-wilsons-conviction-will-be-basically-impossible

    Convicting Darren Wilson Will Be Basically Impossible
    You can thank Missouri law for that

    "Under Missouri law, all a citizen claiming self-defense or a police officer claiming to have fired while pursuing a dangerous criminal need do is “inject the issue of justification.” In other words, he only needs to produce some evidence (his own testimony counts) supporting the claim."


    This is very similar to the George Zimmerman case. Whether the victim was armed or not, IF YOU FEEL THREATENED YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SHOOT AND KILL.

    That 'feeling' doesn't have to be supported by evidence either.


    I told someone earlier this week who was playing the song and dance game in defense of the rabble in Ferguson that the officer would not be indicted. Not only is there Missouri law in place that clearly defines one's right to use force as a private citizen with additional clarification for law enforcement, there is also the Graham standard set down by the Rehnquist court.

    Why should it surprise anyone that in a community where I bet the percentage of literacy is no more than 20 percent, that they feel individuals such as Michael Brown should be able to break facial bones of an officer in an attack and then walk merrily on his way? They are they basis of the Democratic Party and Lord are they truly ignorant. They will never comprehend a legal system that they so often are swept into by their own criminal acts.

    Evil is an appropriate word to describe this group.