“U.S. Economy Is on Solid Ground,” Said Economists

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    Aug 27, 2014 1:31 AM GMT
    NYT: The American economy is gaining renewed momentum, with data released on Tuesday suggesting strong demand by businesses for airplanes, machinery and other manufactured items, as well as rising confidence among consumers, despite a cooling in the housing market.

    Europe has been hurt by the conservatives' austerity policies in place across much of the Continent, said economists, noting that growth essentially stalled in the second quarter.

    Investors were encouraged by Tuesday’s data, with the Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index closing above 2,000, and the Nasdaq and Dow Jones industrial average showing similar modest gains.

    A healthier job market and the recent surge in stocks, which has lifted the S.&P. 500 into record territory, has helped consumer confidence to rebound.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/27/business/us-economy-shows-renewed-strength.html?ref=business
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    Aug 27, 2014 3:06 AM GMT
    Food Stamp Spending and Caseload Are Declining

    NYT: The money spent on food stamps and the number of people who receive them are declining as the economy has improved, according to a report released Wednesday, even as the program remains a source of contention in congressional negotiations to complete a five-year farm bill.

    The report, by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a Washington research group, said that spending and the program’s caseload leveled off in 2011 and 2012 and had remained essentially flat for the past year.

    The center said the number of people on food stamps, formally known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, was declining month to month in about half the states and increasing incrementally in the other half. About a third of the states had fewer people participating in the food stamp program in August, the most recent month for which there is available data, than a year earlier, the group said.

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/11/20/food-stamp-spending-and-caseload-are-declining-report-says/
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    Aug 27, 2014 3:08 AM GMT
    GOP: "Let Them Eat Cake" to 47 Million People

    NYT: “We’ll get to that later.” That was the dismissive answer of Speaker John Boehner on Thursday, when asked if the House would restore the food stamp program it had just coldly ripped out of the farm bill. “Later,” maybe, they will think about the needs of 47 million people who can’t afford adequate food, probably by cutting the average daily subsidy of $4.39.

    As the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities has repeatedly showed, the food stamp program (now known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP) has long been one of the most effective and efficient anti-poverty programs ever devised. When counted as income, SNAP benefits cut extreme poverty nearly in half, a new study shows. Most families who get the aid have an adult who is working.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/13/opinion/missing-the-food-stamp-program.html?_r=0
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    Aug 27, 2014 3:51 AM GMT
    One wonders if the GOP will find some way to blame this on Obama?
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    Aug 27, 2014 4:16 AM GMT
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    CBPP: As of early 2014, food stamp or SNAP caseloads were declining in 47 states, following the pattern of recovery from previous recessions, and the benefit increases from the Recovery Act ended in November 2013. SNAP spending fell slightly as a share of gross domestic product (GDP) in 2012 and 2013, a trend that is expected to accelerate as the economy recovers.

    http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=2226
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    Aug 27, 2014 6:15 PM GMT
    “U.S. Economy Is on Solid Ground,”

    Yes and de Nile is not just a river in Egypt.

    Honestly, how can anyone say this with a straight face. icon_lol.gif
  • conservativej...

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    Aug 27, 2014 9:06 PM GMT
    Ravensong said“U.S. Economy Is on Solid Ground,”

    Yes and de Nile is not just a river in Egypt.

    Honestly, how can anyone say this with a straight face. icon_lol.gif


    It doesn't take much for the Real Jock queens to cluck. :-) You just have to ignore them and forge ahead.
  • tj85016

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    Aug 27, 2014 10:08 PM GMT
    yeah Geithner and Greenspan said the same this in 2008 right before the giant collapse
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    Aug 28, 2014 12:15 AM GMT
    I don't know about that SouthBeach1500. Didn't you recently posted a piece by the NYT's Maureen Dowd excoriating Obama? What you don't like are facts when they do not fit your narrative. (If you have facts to substantiate your allegation that am a NYT representative, please provide it.)
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    Aug 28, 2014 12:27 AM GMT
    Discussion is started by threads. I start threads with premises selected to engender discussion. So am responsible for fostering discussion.

    You have been consistently attacking me. And I don't appreciate it.

    By the way, your opinions do not constitute facts.

    I notice that you have failed to provide a factual basis for your allegation that am a NYT representative but this fits with familiar patterns of your threads that have a basis in untruths. You are a discredit to conservatism.
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    Aug 28, 2014 12:42 AM GMT
    Tell me why it is okay for you to copy and paste and not me?
  • Aleco_Graves

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    Aug 28, 2014 1:13 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said

    It was bad enough when it was just the Metta8 automated unit flooding the forums with copy and paste headlines and links, now there's you doing the same thing.

    It would be very interesting to see you and the Metta8 automated unit have a "conversation" here. You would both communicate via copied and pasted articles and pictures - any way other than engaging in what humans do in a discussion forum which is - discuss!


    Not to be caught in Any crossfire, but it has been getting very annoying seeing an interesting Thread/Forum Title, clicking on it and being disappointing by Some copied text followed by a link.

    When I see Metta8 is the OP i don't even bother looking...

    So please don't become a un-opinionated automaton Woodsmen! Its a discussion not a debate, and even in debate one uses a source as a reference to make one's point... Not have the source be your point/opinion

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    Aug 28, 2014 1:38 AM GMT
    Woodsmen, Please post as you like and allow Southbeach1500 to ignore you if he wishes.
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    Aug 28, 2014 3:48 AM GMT
    I did not realize I have to obey you SouthBeach1500. This site is not yours.
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    Aug 28, 2014 4:02 AM GMT
    woodsmen saidI did not realize I have to obey you SouthBeach1500. This site is not yours.

    Woodsmen - I don't think you are affiliated with the New York Times based upon your previous assertion that your activity constitutes fair use. In my opinion and the opinion of others that is absurd. Your activities far exceed any definition of fair use.

    I understand that many news sources are vigorously enforcing their copyright. Your activity is depriving the New York Times of advertising revenue that would they would get from people who visit their site directly. I haven't gotten around to it, but it is on my list to report your activities to their legal department. They would probably not have much difficulty to subpoena websites and email accounts to get your identity and pursue vigorous legal remedies. If they settled for so many dollars for each article that you have copied, it would likely serve as a deterrent to others.
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    Aug 28, 2014 4:06 AM GMT
    ^ Fair use is a fact. Your unprofessional legal opinion is not. Do report to them. If they complain, I would at least get to find out who you are.
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    Aug 28, 2014 4:13 AM GMT
    woodsmen said^ Fair use is a fact. Your unprofessional legal opinion is not. Do report to them. If they complain, I would at least get to find out who you are.
    Fair use is something you apparently choose to not understand. Nevertheless if they choose to move against you, it will be based upon their legal opinion not anything I say. I hope they really nail your ass. You deserve it.

    By the way, if they do pursue it, my identity would not be relevant to their case against you. But if you have the resources to hire legal counsel and they did want to find out, it would not be a problem to me. I don't think you would want to meet me face-to-face. I can't stand little shits like you and you would know it very quickly.
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    Aug 28, 2014 4:17 AM GMT
    Okay. You keep threatening me at least since July of this year. So scary!
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    Aug 28, 2014 8:02 AM GMT
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    woodsmen saidI did not realize I have to obey you SouthBeach1500. This site is not yours.

    Woodsmen - I don't think you are affiliated with the New York Times based upon your previous assertion that your activity constitutes fair use. In my opinion and the opinion of others that is absurd. Your activities far exceed any definition of fair use.

    I understand that many news sources are vigorously enforcing their copyright. Your activity is depriving the New York Times of advertising revenue that would they would get from people who visit their site directly. I haven't gotten around to it, but it is on my list to report your activities to their legal department. They would probably not have much difficulty to subpoena websites and email accounts to get your identity and pursue vigorous legal remedies. If they settled for so many dollars for each article that you have copied, it would likely serve as a deterrent to others.


    Wow, you think the NYT is going to go after someone for posting iinks to their website?

    [facepalm]

    Please do pursue legal remedies. And report back...
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    Aug 28, 2014 1:52 PM GMT
    We'll know there is a true recovery when the Times hits us with a blizzard of weepy, cloying stories about "Those Left Behind By The Recovery."

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    Aug 28, 2014 4:45 PM GMT
    "Home Depot ( HD ) reported strong sales and operating performance in the second quarter ended July, which saw its stock jump roughly 5% just after the announcement on August 19. Net sales of $23.8 billion in Q2, up 5.7% year-over-year, beat consensus estimates of $23.61 billion. As expected , the rebounding U.S. housing industry laid out a strong sales ground for home improvement retailers"


    Economists also predict a return to productivity for many old, unemployed Republicans who currently occupy themselves with internet trolling and tantrums.
  • Aleco_Graves

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    Sep 03, 2014 3:33 AM GMT
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    woodsmen saidDiscussion is started by threads. I start threads with premises selected to engender discussion. So am responsible for fostering discussion.

    You have been consistently attacking me. And I don't appreciate it.

    By the way, your opinions do not constitute facts.

    I notice that you have failed to provide a factual basis for your allegation that am a NYT representative but this fits with familiar patterns of your threads that have a basis in untruths.


    It's an allegory (look it up).

    Simply copying and pasting news stories and not commenting on them is the online equivalent of tossing a stink bomb in a crowded room and then watching what happens from an outside window.

    And, these are facts, not opinions:

    The number of people who should be in the workforce but who have given up looking for work is much, much higher than it has ever been, and it continues to increase.

    The number of people receiving government welfare payments (not Social Security or Medicare, but welfare payments) is at record highs and is growing.




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