Did someone mock me today for being gay?

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    Jan 13, 2009 5:26 AM GMT
    I was stopped with my Vespa in a single lane of traffic, about the 5th vehicle back from a red traffic light. Two cars at the front were finally able to turn right on red, when cross traffic had cleared, and the cars ahead of me started creeping toward the light.

    I began to move forward, too, just a few feet behind the car in front of me, when suddenly another car from behind swept around me on the right, hugging the curb, and nearly side-swiping me. I pulled left to the white line, applied my brakes and began honking my horn. By now the car had passed me and taken my place in line, everyone once again stopped by the red light.

    I rode up the white line next to the driver's door and yelled at him that he almost hit me by passing me in my lane. The male driver rolled down his window, and with a Latino accent he said to me in a mocking gay lisp: "You were going too slow, dearie."

    It took all my effort not to punch him in the face, and even as he quickly rolled his window back up I was tempted to send my fist right through it. But there was other traffic around as witnesses, plus he had an old lady passenger, and I knew I'd be the one prosecuted for assault & road rage.

    So I said I was reporting his license plate, and back-pedaled my scooter to behind his car, where I memorized his numbers. A few moments later the light changed and we all drove forward, and he turned off 3 blocks ahead, while I kept going.

    He could have known I was gay because I have gay pride items on the back of the scooter, we were in Wilton Manors (Gayville, USA), and it was a red Vespa, after all. I don't have a gay sounding voice, however, and in fact I used my old Army "Command Voice" when I shouted at him.

    I haven't in fact reported the incident to the police, because it's a he said-he said situation, and the old lady would likely back him up that it was all my fault. So I suppose I'll have to let it pass.

    But it isn't often that sort of thing happens to me in this area, and it's very disturbing when it does.
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    Jan 13, 2009 5:41 AM GMT
    Maybe he is on RealJock and recognized your Red Vespa! I'm not kidding what if? I mean which one of us smarmy jerks would not jump at the chance to see you on your Red Vespa and say something like "You were going too slow, dearie" in a Paul Lynde meets Charles Nelson Riley meets Cindy Brady accent?icon_lol.gif (before the big reveal, anyway)
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    Jan 13, 2009 5:46 AM GMT
    bill007 saidMaybe he is on RealJock and recognized your Red Vespa! I'm not kidding what if? I mean which one of us smarmy jerks would not jump at the chance to see you on your Red Vespa and say something like "You were going too slow, dearie" in a Paul Lynde meets Charles Nelson Riley meets Cindy Brady accent?icon_lol.gif

    You mean an RJer would first cut me off in traffic, and assume I'd pull up next to his window, all so he could try his Paul Lynde imitation on me? But Paul Lynde and those others never sounded as nasty as this little creep. And why drive off without saying hello, as a fellow RJer? Original theory, though.
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    Jan 13, 2009 5:49 AM GMT
    This is when a set of Keys come in handy... then you just speed through the crowd and disappear down a side street icon_cool.gif
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    Jan 13, 2009 5:49 AM GMT
    Dang maybe just a regular, plain-old jerk then. Well don't let his insecurities get to you too much; he's probably envious/jealous of you.
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    Jan 13, 2009 5:52 AM GMT
    Wow. You're way too nice. All the motorcycles and scooter riders around LA just give a swift kick to the driver's door and take off. There's so much traffic around, there's no way they can catch up. icon_lol.gif
  • Sparkycat

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    Jan 13, 2009 5:54 AM GMT
    Sounds like you were mocked for being gay. I understand your anger, but on the other hand, how often does this happen. I assume lots of people see your gay pride items, but how often does some jerk say something? I have a gay pride tattoo on the back of my neck. I've heard an occasional comment from someone behind me like, "He's really flaunting it, isn't he." I just ignore them and choose to not give their words any power.
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    Jan 13, 2009 5:56 AM GMT
    AMT87 saidThis is when a set of Keys come in handy... then you just speed through the crowd and disappear down a side street icon_cool.gif

    I thought about that, too, to include kicking his door in, which I've actually done before. (A stranger tried to deliberately run me off the road many years ago, I can only guess because he hated motorcycles. A really scary situation, and kicking his door startled him long enough that I was able to evade him and escape down a side street)

    But too much traffic on this occasion, too many witnesses, had cars all around me on a slow local road, and I was only 2 blocks from my place. My scooter is a familiar sight along that stretch.
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    Jan 13, 2009 6:09 AM GMT
    I doubt he was mocking you. It'll be just some guy who calls himself straight-acting speaking in his normal voice. Don't let it get you down.

    When I went for my motorbike licence, the instructor told us that the best thing to do in that situation is to kick their mirror off and ride on.

    I suspect if I tried that I would fall off and die for my trouble, but it's a very pleasant image. (The kicking, not the dying.)
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    Jan 13, 2009 6:28 AM GMT
    makeumyne said
    When I went for my motorbike licence, the instructor told us that the best thing to do in that situation is to kick their mirror off and ride on.


    Dang, was your instructor Arnie Schwarzenegger? icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 13, 2009 6:37 AM GMT
    makeumyne saidI doubt he was mocking you. It'll be just some guy who calls himself straight-acting speaking in his normal voice. Don't let it get you down.

    When I went for my motorbike licence, the instructor told us that the best thing to do in that situation is to kick their mirror off and ride on.

    I suspect if I tried that I would fall off and die for my trouble, but it's a very pleasant image. (The kicking, not the dying.)

    Well, as I said, we were stopped in traffic. And even if they didn't get my tag number and I rode up the sidewalk or something to escape, that scooter is pretty identifiable, with accessories not shown in my profile pic. A description to the local police would quickly ID me, since they all know it.

    But I used to joke about kicking in the car doors when I was taking the Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) course. And soon the rest of the class was taking up the cry. Every time the instructor would ask us how to deal with an encounter with a 4-wheeler in a given situation, we'd all answer in unison "Kick in the door!" That almost got me flunked from the course! LOL!
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    Jan 13, 2009 6:38 AM GMT
    As a Vespa driver you are way to much a "follow the rules kind of guy". The moto drivers here never get in line, nor the bicycle riders like me. They always move to the front of the line and take up the space ahead of the white line sticking out sometimes into the intersection. I can not believe you actually backed up to behind this guy after your confrontation instead of moving into the space between him and the car ahead of him.

    I agree that guy was probably using his normal voice and the woman next to him was probably his mate dressed in drag and was horrified by his aggressive driving. I would have just told him that you thought that is the way he liked it, that is, slowly up his arse.
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    Jan 13, 2009 6:47 AM GMT
    makeumyne saidI doubt he was mocking you. It'll be just some guy who calls himself straight-acting speaking in his normal voice...

    It was a mock-femmy voice, and "dearie" isn't something I hear too many straight men say. But I did consider that maybe he was a big ole flamer, and didn't notice my scooter's gay markings in his rush to nearly knock me down.

    He may have thought he was taunting a straight guy, from safe inside his car, after I'd blasted him with my butch Army voice. In which case he had better not meet me in a gay bar, because I WILL confront him, and I'll haul his ass outside where there won't be a problem with witnesses.
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    Jan 13, 2009 6:54 AM GMT
    alexander7 saidAs a Vespa driver you are way to much a "follow the rules kind of guy". The moto drivers here never get in line, nor the bicycle riders like me. They always move to the front of the line and take up the space ahead of the white line sticking out sometimes into the intersection. I can not believe you actually backed up to behind this guy after your confrontation instead of moving into the space between him and the car ahead of him.

    I agree that guy was probably using his normal voice and the woman next to him was probably his mate dressed in drag and was horrified by his aggressive driving. I would have just told him that you thought that is the way he liked it, that is, slowly up his arse.

    Most American drivers do follow the rules, and what you describe is illegal here, though I lived in Europe and know very well the road anarchy that exists in some places. I didn't place myself in front of him because he might have been nutty enough to bump me with his car.

    The woman appeared genuinely old, and small like him, so perhaps a relative, maybe a grandmother. The guy was about 30.
  • GQjock

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    Jan 13, 2009 10:10 AM GMT
    Being this was Fort Lauderdale Red
    I'd call this a Gay on Gay Crime

    Most likely the guy who called you Dearie was gay himself
    Gay guys can be just as obnoxious sometimes as the str8 ones