Republicans poll women, are told they're 'stuck in the past'

  • metta

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    Aug 30, 2014 7:00 AM GMT
    Republicans poll women, are told they're 'stuck in the past'

    "A detailed report commissioned by two major Republican groups — including one backed by Karl Rove — paints a dismal picture for Republicans, concluding female voters view the party as “intolerant,” “lacking in compassion” and “stuck in the past.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/gop-poll-of-women-party-stuck-in-past-110398.html
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    Aug 30, 2014 7:06 AM GMT
    metta8 saidRepublicans poll women, are told they're 'stuck in the past'

    "A detailed report commissioned by two major Republican groups — including one backed by Karl Rove — paints a dismal picture for Republicans, concluding female voters view the party as “intolerant,” “lacking in compassion” and “stuck in the past.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/gop-poll-of-women-party-stuck-in-past-110398.html

    Uh-oh! Well, time for some PR damage control. No change in anti-women policies, of course, but let's change the image & perceptions.

    Watch for it on your channel. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Aug 30, 2014 3:48 PM GMT
    Yes, Republicans are stuck in the past. Not just on women but everything!

    Ask any Republicans, "What's the GOP's 21st Century ideas for America?"

    Answer - Uhm, duh, uh, coal & drill for more oil, tax cuts for rich, start more wars we can't pay for.

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    Art_Deco said
    metta8 saidRepublicans poll women, are told they're 'stuck in the past'

    "A detailed report commissioned by two major Republican groups — including one backed by Karl Rove — paints a dismal picture for Republicans, concluding female voters view the party as “intolerant,” “lacking in compassion” and “stuck in the past.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/gop-poll-of-women-party-stuck-in-past-110398.html

    Uh-oh! Well, time for some PR damage control. No change in anti-women policies, of course, but let's change the image & perceptions.

    Watch for it on your channel. icon_biggrin.gif


    Exactly which "anti-women policies" are you discussing? The ones that put the first woman into the House? Those that put the first - and only credible - woman in to the position of Sec. of State? Or are you presuming to speak on abortion? Although I'm strongly pro-choice, like many GOPers, many women of all parties aren't. Nor do all women buy into the glass-ceiling, gotta get a job, housewifery is bad mythology. In short, they're just as much of a rainbow as gays claim themselves to be.

    That said, I can understand why those polled responded as they do, and there are A LOT of us in the GOP working to change that perception. What I can't understand is why people like you continue to harp on mindlessly to propel your own personal agenda at the expense of the facts.
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    Aug 30, 2014 4:47 PM GMT
    Standby for RJ's first 'female' conservasock puppet, telling us how 'tolerant, modern and all-embracing' she finds the GOP.
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    Aug 30, 2014 6:11 PM GMT
    Uh-oh! Well, time for some PR damage control. No change in anti-women policies, of course, but let's change the image & perceptions.

    Change the subject! Vote against the Affordable Healthcare Act yet again. Threaten to impeach someone! INVADE somebody!
  • tazzari

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    Aug 30, 2014 6:17 PM GMT

    That said, I can understand why those polled responded as they do, and there are A LOT of us in the GOP working to change that perception. What I can't understand is why people like you continue to harp on mindlessly to propel your own personal agenda at the expense of the facts.

    What "personal agenda" would that be? Personal conviction, based, as I'm sure your view are as well, on personal experience?

    Why is it that only liberals have an "agenda"?

    And please note that you speak of changing "perception. I'd be more likely to vote GOP if it were less a question of "perception" and "message," and more one of genuine change of policy. work away - I'm glad you're doing so - but until I see a genuine alteration of an exclusive, wealth-favoring, negative and obstuctionist POLICY, I will continue to vote for the imperfect, but in my opinion more generous, more equality-oriented, better-intentioned Democratic Party.
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    tazzari said
    That said, I can understand why those polled responded as they do, and there are A LOT of us in the GOP working to change that perception. What I can't understand is why people like you continue to harp on mindlessly to propel your own personal agenda at the expense of the facts.

    What "personal agenda" would that be? Personal conviction, based, as I'm sure your view are as well, on personal experience?

    Why is it that only liberals have an "agenda"?

    And please note that you speak of changing "perception. I'd be more likely to vote GOP if it were less a question of "perception" and "message," and more one of genuine change of policy. work away - I'm glad you're doing so - but until I see a genuine alteration of an exclusive, wealth-favoring, negative and obstuctionist POLICY, I will continue to vote for the imperfect, but in my opinion more generous, more equality-oriented, better-intentioned Democratic Party.


    [Response delayed due to need of watching college games.] You correctly read and note that I addressed perception. That's because I believe from my own experience as a GOP nominee for national office that its basic policy is sound and not wealth-favoring, negative, or obstructionist as you claim. To my mind, only its positions on abortion and gay rights are in need of change. There's nothing wrong with wanting success, and ergo, wealth, and the GOP's personal path to that is much more preferable than the Demos' "mediocrity on the backs of all" approach. Negativity and obstructionism go together in the context of the present administration, which routinely ignores the rule of law and rides the crest of the cult of personality; the GOP is right to oppose that at every turn. E.g., Obama's disregard of immigration laws, pandering to a/o ignoring the lawlessness of Ferguson and elsewhere, and worst from a security perspective, his gross negligence in foreign policy and national defense, of which he has absolutely no understanding. Generosity with the assets of others is socialism, not generosity, and the best guarantor of equality is equality of opportunity, not of result, as the Democrats would impose on the country. As for intentions, what could be more crass, cynical, and unethical than seeking to solidify a position of political primacy by enticing illegal aliens to the country, and then registering them to vote Democratic, which, their blatherings about compassion and other decent traits notwithstanding, is exactly what they're doing. The Demos are fooling no one, and I believe we will see their fraud exposed for what it is this November. And then, if the GOP gains a majority in the Senate, impeaching and removing Obama from office ASAP before he can do further damage to our interests will be the best thing the GOP has ever done for this country, including the election of Ronald Reagan to two consecutive and glorious - he won the Cold War, remember? - terms.
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    Aug 31, 2014 3:33 AM GMT
    MGINSD said
    tazzari said
    That said, I can understand why those polled responded as they do, and there are A LOT of us in the GOP working to change that perception. What I can't understand is why people like you continue to harp on mindlessly to propel your own personal agenda at the expense of the facts.

    What "personal agenda" would that be? Personal conviction, based, as I'm sure your view are as well, on personal experience?

    Why is it that only liberals have an "agenda"?

    And please note that you speak of changing "perception. I'd be more likely to vote GOP if it were less a question of "perception" and "message," and more one of genuine change of policy. work away - I'm glad you're doing so - but until I see a genuine alteration of an exclusive, wealth-favoring, negative and obstuctionist POLICY, I will continue to vote for the imperfect, but in my opinion more generous, more equality-oriented, better-intentioned Democratic Party.


    [Response delayed due to need of watching college games.] You correctly read and note that I addressed perception. That's because I believe from my own experience as a GOP nominee for national office that its basic policy is sound and not wealth-favoring, negative, or obstructionist as you claim. To my mind, only its positions on abortion and gay rights are in need of change. There's nothing wrong with wanting success, and ergo, wealth, and the GOP's personal path to that is much more preferable than the Demos' "mediocrity on the backs of all" approach. Negativity and obstructionism go together in the context of the present administration, which routinely ignores the rule of law and rides the crest of the cult of personality; the GOP is right to oppose that at every turn. E.g., Obama's disregard of immigration laws, pandering to a/o ignoring the lawlessness of Ferguson and elsewhere, and worst from a security perspective, his gross negligence in foreign policy and national defense, of which he has absolutely no understanding. Generosity with the assets of others is socialism, not generosity, and the best guarantor of equality is equality of opportunity, not of result, as the Democrats would impose on the country. As for intentions, what could be more crass, cynical, and unethical than seeking to solidify a position of political primacy by enticing illegal aliens to the country, and then registering them to vote Democratic, which, their blatherings about compassion and other decent traits notwithstanding, is exactly what they're doing. The Demos are fooling no one, and I believe we will see their fraud exposed for what it is this November. And then, if the GOP gains a majority in the Senate, impeaching and removing Obama from office ASAP before he can do further damage to our interests will be the best thing the GOP has ever done for this country, including the election of Ronald Reagan to two consecutive and glorious - he won the Cold War, remember? - terms.
    Fraud=Bush,Cheney...enough said
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    Aug 31, 2014 3:56 AM GMT
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    What I can't understand is why people like you continue to harp on mindlessly to propel your own personal agenda at the expense of the facts.

    Because I can't understand why people like YOU are being used by the Republican Party to oppress gays, women, minorities, labor, anyone who isn't a wealthy donor to them, and their Fascist agenda.

    Reminds me of the term often questionably ascribed to Lenin: "useful idiot". Guys like you are useful idiots of the Republicans who undermine other gays in the legitimate pursuit of their full civil rights, and their full societal acceptance.

    If you really are gay, why not embrace who you say you are, and help your fellow gays? Why work in the enemy camp to destroy us? To keep us victimized second-class citizens? What is your interest in doing the very opposite of what we need?
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    Feminists won't be happy until the human race is androgynous.

    "Progress"!
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    MGINSD said

    " if the GOP gains a majority in the Senate, impeaching and removing Obama from office ASAP before he can do further damage to our interests will be the best thing the GOP has ever done for this country, including the election of Ronald Reagan to two consecutive and glorious - he won the Cold War, remember? - terms."


    The GOP Plan: We dig up Ole Ronnie and ask him to lead his country once more.

    What if He refuses? Maybe Saint Ronnie is enjoying his eternal rest.

    Once again, Republicans don't seem to have thought through the consequences.
    Remember the invasion of Iraq?
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    MGINSD said
    What I can't understand is why people like you continue to harp on mindlessly to propel your own personal agenda at the expense of the facts.

    Because I can't understand why people like YOU are being used by the Republican Party to oppress gays, women, minorities, labor, anyone who isn't a wealthy donor to them, and their Fascist agenda.

    Reminds me of the term often questionably ascribed to Lenin: "useful idiot". Guys like you are useful idiots of the Republicans who undermine other gays in the legitimate pursuit of their full civil rights, and their full societal acceptance.

    If you really are gay, why not embrace who you say you are, and help your fellow gays? Why work in the enemy camp to destroy us? To keep us victimized second-class citizens? What is your interest in doing the very opposite of what we need?


    You make A LOT of assumptions, all of them typically wrong, about my allegedly working "in the enemy camp to destroy us." No one is using me, on the right or left; I can take care of myself, TYVM. Your claims of the GOP's "Fascist agenda" are pure hyperbole, and imply, if not demand, adherence to a left-wing alliance which many gays do not share. As I've noted before, I'll match my record in the courts on behalf of gay rights against not just anyone's on this board, but most of the poseurs who style themselves "activists" but are little more than civil rights arrivistes. And please, no psycho-sociobabbling about "embracing" myself or anything else. That's an act reserved for my own moments of intimacy. That's still allowed in your brave new world, isn't it?
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    [quote][cite]Determinate said[/cite]MGINSD said

    " if the GOP gains a majority in the Senate, impeaching and removing Obama from office ASAP before he can do further damage to our interests will be the best thing the GOP has ever done for this country, including the election of Ronald Reagan to two consecutive and glorious - he won the Cold War, remember? - terms."


    The GOP Plan: We dig up Ole Ronnie and ask him to lead his country once more.

    What if He refuses? Maybe Saint Ronnie is enjoying his eternal rest.

    Once again, Republicans don't seem to have thought through the consequences.
    Remember the invasion of Iraq?[/quote

    Hardly. As abhorrent as it would be, Kerry would take over the WH, but, coward that he essentially is, the obviously bored-by-the-job Obama would probably resign, taking Kerry with him, leaving the House Speaker in charge, who'd then appoint a Veep. And even if Kerry showed some hair and remained, he'd be the same sitting duck that Obama would be, though, if it can be imagined, even more impotent. Wishful thinking? Perhaps, but constitutionally - we still do have one, you know - that's the way it would have to play out. As for Iraq, yes, the US did the right thing. How many thousands more would have to be processed thru the shredders before Saddam was brought to heel?
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    Aug 31, 2014 4:22 PM GMT
    sportsjockla saidYes, Republicans are stuck in the past. Not just on women but everything!

    Ask any Republicans, "What's the GOP's 21st Century ideas for America?"

    Answer - Uhm, duh, uh, coal & drill for more oil, tax cuts for rich, start more wars we can't pay for.

    +1. Pandering to all the NARROW MINDED BIBLE THUMPING SCREWBALLS by opposing marital equality.
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    Aug 31, 2014 6:25 PM GMT
    MGINSD said[quote][cite]Determinate said[/cite]MGINSD said

    " if the GOP gains a majority in the Senate, impeaching and removing Obama from office ASAP before he can do further damage to our interests will be the best thing the GOP has ever done for this country, including the election of Ronald Reagan to two consecutive and glorious - he won the Cold War, remember? - terms."


    The GOP Plan: We dig up Ole Ronnie and ask him to lead his country once more.

    What if He refuses? Maybe Saint Ronnie is enjoying his eternal rest.

    Once again, Republicans don't seem to have thought through the consequences.
    Remember the invasion of Iraq?[/quote

    Hardly. As abhorrent as it would be, Kerry would take over the WH, but, coward that he essentially is, the obviously bored-by-the-job Obama would probably resign, taking Kerry with him, leaving the House Speaker in charge, who'd then appoint a Veep. And even if Kerry showed some hair and remained, he'd be the same sitting duck that Obama would be, though, if it can be imagined, even more impotent. Wishful thinking? Perhaps, but constitutionally - we still do have one, you know - that's the way it would have to play out. As for Iraq, yes, the US did the right thing. How many thousands more would have to be processed thru the shredders before Saddam was brought to heel?


    Hahaha! You know the last Republican President to balance a budget was Eisenhower! 1958. Most of us RJ users weren't even born. As far as Ronnie goes... he didn't end the cold war. USSR went broke. Something GOP almost did in 2008. Dumb ass Bush didn't pay for anything! GOP cries Obama spending bwah! But Bush borrowed EVERY dime and brought us to brink of depression. If Obama was as bad as you fantasize, we'd be in a depression.
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    MGINSD said[quote][cite]Determinate said[/cite]MGINSD said

    " if the GOP gains a majority in the Senate, impeaching and removing Obama from office ASAP before he can do further damage to our interests will be the best thing the GOP has ever done for this country, including the election of Ronald Reagan to two consecutive and glorious - he won the Cold War, remember? - terms."


    The GOP Plan: We dig up Ole Ronnie and ask him to lead his country once more.

    What if He refuses? Maybe Saint Ronnie is enjoying his eternal rest.

    Once again, Republicans don't seem to have thought through the consequences.
    Remember the invasion of Iraq?[/quote

    Hardly. As abhorrent as it would be, Kerry would take over the WH, but, coward that he essentially is, the obviously bored-by-the-job Obama would probably resign, taking Kerry with him, leaving the House Speaker in charge, who'd then appoint a Veep. And even if Kerry showed some hair and remained, he'd be the same sitting duck that Obama would be, though, if it can be imagined, even more impotent. Wishful thinking? Perhaps, but constitutionally - we still do have one, you know - that's the way it would have to play out. As for Iraq, yes, the US did the right thing. How many thousands more would have to be processed thru the shredders before Saddam was brought to heel?



    MGINSD, ARE YOU AWARE THAT KERRY IS NOT THE VICE PRESIDENT?
    Are you under the impression that the Secretary of State would replace an impeached(and ejected) president?


    You may be relying on a variety of misinformation that is distorting your opinions.

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    Determinate said
    MGINSD said[quote][cite]Determinate said[/cite]MGINSD said

    " if the GOP gains a majority in the Senate, impeaching and removing Obama from office ASAP before he can do further damage to our interests will be the best thing the GOP has ever done for this country, including the election of Ronald Reagan to two consecutive and glorious - he won the Cold War, remember? - terms."


    The GOP Plan: We dig up Ole Ronnie and ask him to lead his country once more.

    What if He refuses? Maybe Saint Ronnie is enjoying his eternal rest.

    Once again, Republicans don't seem to have thought through the consequences.
    Remember the invasion of Iraq?[/quote

    Hardly. As abhorrent as it would be, Kerry would take over the WH, but, coward that he essentially is, the obviously bored-by-the-job Obama would probably resign, taking Kerry with him, leaving the House Speaker in charge, who'd then appoint a Veep. And even if Kerry showed some hair and remained, he'd be the same sitting duck that Obama would be, though, if it can be imagined, even more impotent. Wishful thinking? Perhaps, but constitutionally - we still do have one, you know - that's the way it would have to play out. As for Iraq, yes, the US did the right thing. How many thousands more would have to be processed thru the shredders before Saddam was brought to heel?



    MGINSD, ARE YOU AWARE THAT KERRY IS NOT THE VICE PRESIDENT?
    Are you under the impression that the Secretary of State would replace an impeached(and ejected) president?


    You may be relying on a variety of misinformation that is distorting your opinions.



    LOL! Yes, you caught me there. Of course I know Biden is the Veep, but in my mind he and Kerry are practically interchangeable. Good call.