Gay man charged with knowingly infecting multiple partners with HIV. Could be hundreds of men...

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    Aug 30, 2014 3:26 PM GMT
    http://www.out.com/news-opinion/2014/08/29/san-diego-man-charged-knowingly-exposing-25-men-hiv
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    Aug 30, 2014 5:40 PM GMT
    The guy might be a sociopath asshole but the fault is on the other guys too for being so DUMB not to use a condom. It was their responsibly to look after their own health, well too bad now they have to take daily meds and deal with the HIV+ status for the rest of their lives.
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    Aug 30, 2014 5:43 PM GMT
    gheez, they should have always used protection, for god's sake, it's 21st century!
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    Aug 30, 2014 6:02 PM GMT
    HIV + that intentionally infect others are psychopaths. Disgusting.
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    Aug 30, 2014 6:15 PM GMT
    Lol where's that unkabasa guy to defend this perp by virtue of his HIV status...
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    Aug 30, 2014 8:56 PM GMT
    theonewhoknocks saidLol where's that unkabasa guy to defend this perp by virtue of his HIV status...


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    theonewhoknocks saidLol where's that unkabasa guy to defend this perp by virtue of his HIV status...


    Here I am! To all of you mental munchkins, read something considerably more nuanced:


    Michael Giorgino, chief deputy city attorney for communications in the San Diego City Attorney’s Office, says officials there referred Guerra’s case for felony considerations twice to the county—and twice the county sent it back for misdemeanor prosecution.

    It seems like an open and shut case, right? Guy knows he’s HIV-positive and allegedly goes around trying to infect others with his virus.

    In the more than five years I have been reporting nationally on the issue of HIV criminalization, I have identified exactly one case of deliberate transmission of HIV out of the 100 or so cases I have reviewed during that time. So the current reporting on Guerra’s case raises questions about whether he was specifically intent on transmitting his virus to others.
    - See more at: http://www.frontiersla.com/frontiers-blog/2014/09/03/are-aids-monster-scare-tactics-back#sthash.jYoseyFz.dpuf
    "The victim says Guerra had known he was HIV-positive for five years.

    But Guerra was not on medications, nor in care. And that’s not uncommon in America. According to the federal government, only about 25% of those who know they are living with HIV have been linked to care, have a regular relationship with a care provider and are on successful medication intervention so they have an undetectable viral load. According to Guerra’s former partner, the 29-year-old was one of the 66% of Americans who were linked to care but did not continue.

    That former partner says Guerra claims he didn’t have access for medications and doctor visits, a not-at-all-uncommon reality for many living with HIV, which is why there are federally funded programs to help that group of people access care and drugs. But not everyone is linked to those programs, and AIDS service groups have been trying to find a successful way to bring those diagnosed persons into care and get their virus undetectable.

    The victim also admits he has some responsibility in this whole matter. “I was the one who chose not to use protection during our first sexual encounter,” he tells me. Had Guerra been on successful medications, the chances he would have infected this partner would have been very small. Had this partner asked about Guerra’s status, which he didn’t—or had he insisted they get tested together, which they didn’t—the outcome may have been different.

    At the end of the day, Guerra’s case raises more issues than the criminal liability concerns. It asks us to look at access to care for those living with HIV, and it asks us to look—no matter how uncomfortable—at our own behaviors."
    - See more at: http://www.frontiersla.com/frontiers-blog/2014/09/03/are-aids-monster-scare-tactics-back#sthash.jYoseyFz.dpuf



    Again, if you think HIV POZ and HIV POZ/undetectable are the same thing, with the same risks, you need to be edumahked!
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    Sep 13, 2014 9:24 PM GMT
    I lived most of my life abstinent from sex. At age twenty nine I delved into it and let me tell you it was based on my Health Science teacher that told me only one percent have it. So I thought if I fucked with a hundred people I only had a one percent chance of getting it. Little did I know NOR was it taught that the gay community is the the highest of that percentage. I didn't know what I was doing. There weren't fucking rubbers being handed out at the popular gay bars back in that day. My journey has ultimately led to me fighting for my life twenty years later. THe HIV drug Truvada caused me kidney disease. I just got out of the hospital with failed kidneys. I CANNOT believe MUCHMORETHANMUSCLE just got man of the day when all he is really doing as an HIV man is endorse bareback sex. WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOUR MINDS AT???? No, I will stand up for the TRUTH and not lay down and die like this.
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    Sep 13, 2014 9:31 PM GMT
    Jerred saidI lived most of my life abstinent from sex. At age twenty nine I delved into it and let me tell you it was based on my Health Science teacher that told me only one percent have it. So I thought if I fucked with a hundred people I only had a one percent chance of getting it. Little did I know NOR was it taught that the gay community is the the highest of that percentage. I didn't know what I was doing. There weren't fucking rubbers being handed out at the popular gay bars back in that day. My journey has ultimately led to me fighting for my life twenty years later. THe HIV drug Truvada caused me kidney disease. I just got out of the hospital with failed kidneys. I CANNOT believe MUCHMORETHANMUSCLE just got man of the day when all he is really doing as an HIV man is endorse bareback sex. WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOUR MINDS AT???? No, I will stand up for the TRUTH and not lay down and die like this.

    Well you see we share something in common here, when I saw Muchmorethanmuscle as MOTD I thought the same thing as you. Probably people who voted for him didn't know the things he advocate
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    Sep 13, 2014 9:34 PM GMT
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    Jerred saidI lived most of my life abstinent from sex. At age twenty nine I delved into it and let me tell you it was based on my Health Science teacher that told me only one percent have it. So I thought if I fucked with a hundred people I only had a one percent chance of getting it. Little did I know NOR was it taught that the gay community is the the highest of that percentage. I didn't know what I was doing. There weren't fucking rubbers being handed out at the popular gay bars back in that day. My journey has ultimately led to me fighting for my life twenty years later. THe HIV drug Truvada caused me kidney disease. I just got out of the hospital with failed kidneys. I CANNOT believe MUCHMORETHANMUSCLE just got man of the day when all he is really doing as an HIV man is endorse bareback sex. WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOUR MINDS AT???? No, I will stand up for the TRUTH and not lay down and die like this.

    Well you see we share something in common here, when I saw Muchmorethanmuscle as MOTD I thought the same thing as you. Probably people who voted for him didn't know the things he advocate


    Thank god somebody else sees it. I only logged onto this forum to save his life. But he put me on ignore. SO FUCKING WHAT he is attractive physically. Love between two men should be inspiring and NOT destructive.
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    Sep 13, 2014 9:44 PM GMT
    Jerred said
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    Jerred saidI lived most of my life abstinent from sex. At age twenty nine I delved into it and let me tell you it was based on my Health Science teacher that told me only one percent have it. So I thought if I fucked with a hundred people I only had a one percent chance of getting it. Little did I know NOR was it taught that the gay community is the the highest of that percentage. I didn't know what I was doing. There weren't fucking rubbers being handed out at the popular gay bars back in that day. My journey has ultimately led to me fighting for my life twenty years later. THe HIV drug Truvada caused me kidney disease. I just got out of the hospital with failed kidneys. I CANNOT believe MUCHMORETHANMUSCLE just got man of the day when all he is really doing as an HIV man is endorse bareback sex. WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOUR MINDS AT???? No, I will stand up for the TRUTH and not lay down and die like this.

    Well you see we share something in common here, when I saw Muchmorethanmuscle as MOTD I thought the same thing as you. Probably people who voted for him didn't know the things he advocate


    Thank god somebody else sees it. I only logged onto this forum to save his life. But he put me on ignore. SO FUCKING WHAT he is attractive physically. Love between two men should be inspiring and NOT destructive.


    Wow, your mortality is getting ahead of science.....when in fact morality judgements are a decade behind.

    MMTM is HIV UNDETECTABLE. Get it? He is in a relationship. Get it? Even if his lover is Negative he is informed and consensual. There is no "destruction" here. He is protecting his BF....that is inspiring. Your smokescreen of ignorance isn't.

    Read the studies. As two intelligent individuals, they can determine what is safer sex to them, not you.

    You aren't saving anybody's life, your being meddlesome, annoying and judgmental. For no other reason than your own aggrandizement and stigmatizing. THEY will be fine.

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    Sep 13, 2014 9:45 PM GMT
    Undetectable is STILL risky, get it?

    ^ There is NO REASON to have unprotected sex with HIV+ men, get it?
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    Sep 13, 2014 9:51 PM GMT
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    Jerred said
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    Jerred saidI lived most of my life abstinent from sex. At age twenty nine I delved into it and let me tell you it was based on my Health Science teacher that told me only one percent have it. So I thought if I fucked with a hundred people I only had a one percent chance of getting it. Little did I know NOR was it taught that the gay community is the the highest of that percentage. I didn't know what I was doing. There weren't fucking rubbers being handed out at the popular gay bars back in that day. My journey has ultimately led to me fighting for my life twenty years later. THe HIV drug Truvada caused me kidney disease. I just got out of the hospital with failed kidneys. I CANNOT believe MUCHMORETHANMUSCLE just got man of the day when all he is really doing as an HIV man is endorse bareback sex. WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOUR MINDS AT???? No, I will stand up for the TRUTH and not lay down and die like this.

    Well you see we share something in common here, when I saw Muchmorethanmuscle as MOTD I thought the same thing as you. Probably people who voted for him didn't know the things he advocate


    Thank god somebody else sees it. I only logged onto this forum to save his life. But he put me on ignore. SO FUCKING WHAT he is attractive physically. Love between two men should be inspiring and NOT destructive.


    Wow, your mortality is getting ahead of science.....when in fact morality judgements are a decade behind.

    MMTM is HIV UNDETECTABLE. Get it? He is in a relationship. Get it? Even if his lover is Negative he is informed and consensual. There is no "destruction" here. He is protecting his BF....that is inspiring. Your smokescreen of ignorance isn't.

    Read the studies. As two intelligent individuals, they can determine what is safer sex to them, not you.

    You aren't saving anybody's life, your being meddlesome, annoying and judgmental. For no other reason than your own aggrandizement and stigmatizing. THEY will be fine.



    UNDETECTABLE makes it safe for unsafe sex??? WHERE THE FUCK are your interest in science at. NO IT IS NOT SAFE. HIV drugs do not affect what is in the sperm. SPERM IS THE FUCKING HIDING PLACE along with the other places it hides in. YES, MMTM endorses bareback sex and refused my information because it told the TRUTH on this PREP thing Truvada has going on now. MMTM thinks it is a free ticket to ride a cock bareback. But what it really is is going to make forty percent of takers of Truvada to have chronic kidney disease over a twenty year period. MMTM is a fucking sex freak. I LOVE how you try to enlighten the facts by making him sound like he is in a monogomous relationship. Man, anything to satisfy your porno head. Sorry, what he advocates is against all science. He is a destructive bastard that can't even have the guts like I did to look inside yourself and realize what you are causing.
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    Sep 13, 2014 9:51 PM GMT
    I will agree with one thing, if it's consensual and honest, then do what you want. If you have HIV, and whether 'undetectable' or not, as long as your partner knows you are HIV+ and you aren't raping him, I have no problem with whether they bareback, it's the partners responsibility to not be an idiot.
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    Sep 13, 2014 9:54 PM GMT
    David3K saidUndetectable is STILL risky, get it?

    ^ There is NO REASON to have unprotected sex with HIV+ men, get it?


    Oh like love and commitment and science don't count? But you opinion does? FO

    53% of gay men don't use condoms. Many SHOULD. Especially the 13-24 group where they have little access to ART Therapy.
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    Sweetooth saidI will agree with one thing, if it's consensual and honest, then do what you want. If you have HIV, and whether 'undetectable' or not, as long as your partner knows you are HIV+ and you aren't raping him, I have no problem with whether they bareback, it's the partners responsibility to not be an idiot.


    Oh, tell the world that and we are back in the eighties again. Where the FUCK are your morals? This disease is much less considerate of them than you think.
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    Sep 13, 2014 9:55 PM GMT
    But why are people focusing on HIV? There are other STDs you can catch like Herpes. You can get Herpes by just kissing someone. No sex.
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    Sep 13, 2014 9:56 PM GMT
    you can prevent this by using protection on your penis ... done
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    David3K saidUndetectable is STILL risky, get it?

    ^ There is NO REASON to have unprotected sex with HIV+ men, get it?


    Oh like love and commitment and science don't count? But you opinion does? FO

    53% of gay men don't use condoms. Many SHOULD. Especially the 13-24 group where they have little access to ART Therapy.

    Of course many dont use condoms, that's why HIV keeps increasing in the gay community! And people like you advocating barebacking (specially with HIV+) are certainly not helping, hope you feel proud.
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    Sep 13, 2014 10:03 PM GMT
    kevex saidBut why are people focusing on HIV? There are other STDs you can catch like Herpes. You can get Herpes by just kissing someone. No sex.


    Those other diseases are not killers like HIV... And what your HIV advocates want you to think (like MuchMoreThanMuscle) is that it is safe now to do bareback sex. HIV has destroyed me... I am dying of kidney disease because of it. I have my hopes up on some things but NO this disease is still deadly.
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    Hmmm...interesting accusations at MMTM. Are you saying he is NOT telling men he has sex with that he is HIV? Are you saying he is telling people with hiv to NOT disclose before BB?
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    Sep 13, 2014 10:15 PM GMT
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    Hmmm...interesting accusations at MMTM. Are you saying he is NOT telling men he has sex with that he is HIV? Are you saying he is telling people with hiv to NOT disclose before BB?



    OH WHAT A FUCKING HUMANITARIAN HE IS FOR THAT... If you are HIV positive you KNOW what the fuck you are giving to someone else out of "love". This is not a fucking who is right and who is wrong thing... It is about humanity. IF YOU ARE HIV POSITIVE AND PUT YOUR DICK INTO ANOTHER MAN AND CUM YOU ARE TRULY A FUCKING DEMON in society which is what MuchMoreThanMuscle is.
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    Sep 13, 2014 10:16 PM GMT
    I WILL NEVER DO IT. EVERY PIECE OF MY FLESH AND BONES WILL NOT DO IT.
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    Sep 13, 2014 10:17 PM GMT
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    Sweetooth saidI will agree with one thing, if it's consensual and honest, then do what you want. If you have HIV, and whether 'undetectable' or not, as long as your partner knows you are HIV+ and you aren't raping him, I have no problem with whether they bareback, it's the partners responsibility to not be an idiot.


    Oh, tell the world that and we are back in the eighties again. Where the FUCK are your morals? This disease is much less considerate of them than you think.


    Well, 2 consenting adults can do whatever they want within the law...stupid or not. I would never do it, myself.
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    Sep 13, 2014 10:18 PM GMT
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    Hmmm...interesting accusations at MMTM. Are you saying he is NOT telling men he has sex with that he is HIV? Are you saying he is telling people with hiv to NOT disclose before BB?


    It's very nasty of him to promote that bareback sex with HIV+ men is safe, when its not.