Cure for Drag Queens?

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    Jan 13, 2009 1:25 PM GMT
    Does anyone know how we can eliminate the drag queens from the gay scene, or at least cut back on them.

    Don't get me wrong I have met a lot fo them in my life and performed with them on stage (Mr. KGRA 05). I know they can raise a lot of money for charity and once in a great while be enjoyable to watch.

    However here in Kansas City it seems they have taken over. I think every bar has soem sort of drag show at least once a week. A couple of the bars have 3 or more drag shows a week. It is the same Drag Queens preforming the same songs, in the same clothes on differnt nights. Most only lip sync and not very well either. I am feed up with them.

    KC has a gay country bar. Because of them the cowboys have been pushed out and limited to a few short hours on Saturday night. On Friday night, and Sunday there is not a bar in town that doesn't have them performing. It has driven me away from the gay bars.

    Anyone got a magic potion or solution?
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    Jan 13, 2009 1:44 PM GMT
    You kill them of course, but then you'd have to shoulder the charity.

    Tough ain't it?
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    Jan 13, 2009 3:39 PM GMT
    I fail to see any problem other than your own...

    If you don't like drag shows, go to a bar that isn't having a drag show that night. Problem solved!
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    Jan 13, 2009 3:44 PM GMT
    When the economics of the drag queen shows fades, so will the shows. Evidiently the others in your town are enjoying them. I am with you tho, personally. I dont care to watch a dq show. Drag queens usuallly have a great sense of humor and I enjoy joining them in conversation while standing around in a bar....but to have to watch the lip-syncing....not so much.
  • DiverScience

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    Jan 13, 2009 3:47 PM GMT
    Go somewhere else and convince your friends to as well so there's no money paying them. Until then, man up and deal.
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    Jan 13, 2009 3:54 PM GMT
    I'm slightly offended. My best friend is a Drag Queen. I don't mean some tragic mess who gets up on stage and dances around wildly to some britney spears song. He is a makeup artist and makes most of his own costumes.

    There is definitely an art to it. On top of that, the guys who actually do perform love it. Its a hobby, a pastime, a means to relieve stress. Who are you to tell them to stop. They are a part of our culture, just like the crazy conservative people. We can't kill all of them. So either avoid them if you don't like them, or stop bitching.
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    Jan 13, 2009 3:56 PM GMT
    I've seen some drag shows that were amazing, and the performers were just that.... performers. They were good at what they did. Varla Jean comes to mind (LOVE HER!!). Funny, original, entertaining.

    What you're describing sounds more pathetic than anything. Just a guy in a wig and a dress, bad makeup and lip syncing to his favorite diva/alter ego.

    Caslon and Diver are right though... It won't fade until people just get sick of it (IF they get sick of it). Until then, either deal with it and ignore them - or find another place to hang out with your friends
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    Jan 13, 2009 4:00 PM GMT
    Sounds like you just don't know how to have fun.

    Hit a different bar and stop being a a hater. You sound almost jealous of the DQ since they are everywhere and having fun.

    Man up and just deal with it. That's like a straight person saying something like "There are too many Gays in the area and it's no fun anymore." It's the same thing buddy.
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    Jan 13, 2009 4:04 PM GMT
    I go somewhere else in the bar with my friends or if they want to watch it tolerate it, most of the time will refuse to clap but occasionally will clap politely if the performer is some what talented....

    The drag queens are often accompanied by two emaciated emo freaks that spin around in circle really fast while tearing off there clothes wrapping each other up in saran wrap and throwing various random objects around the stage. I'm told for some people this passes as entertainment

    Anyway they seek audience participation from good looking people. I'm not conceited the clientele in this bar is mostly well ugly people. They always try and get me up there, I usually stand far enough back to avoid this.

    One day after polity declining their invitation several times, there was significant pressure from the crowd for me to participate and I caved. The result was I had to stand on stage holding a smelly dripping raw chicken in various random positions. Until one of them came up and slapped on my head.

    I never return to that bar again
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    Jan 13, 2009 4:04 PM GMT
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    What you're describing sounds more pathetic than anything. Just a guy in a wig and a dress, bad makeup and lip syncing to his favorite diva/alter ego.

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    They have gotten sick of it, yet the owners here continue. One club called Missie B's home to Flo..about 85% or better that watch her show are straight women there for thier bridal shower. They rest of the bars continue with these lame shows and are going bust. they town in recent years has had several bars close. KC (2million in pop) has but 2 dance clubs. Both have shows and both losing money.

    These are not the drag queens you get in other major cities. They are silly bois in dresses, lip syncing..it's pathetic.
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    Jan 13, 2009 4:16 PM GMT
    The owners are there to make money. Customers can bitch about the queens all they, but if the owners still making money from a cover...

    Dollars speak louder then words.
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    Jan 13, 2009 4:20 PM GMT
    this is way annoying! who the hell says this crap? so you don't like them as much as the next guy. this pisses me off, no one is saying we should get rid of fat gays like you! i mean, sure, you walk around the world comsuming more than the rest of us. you take up more space, sweat too much and smell of ketchup and hot dogs... icon_evil.gif
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    Jan 13, 2009 4:23 PM GMT



    Wear garlic!



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    Jan 13, 2009 4:23 PM GMT
    Cowboiway saidDoes anyone know how we can eliminate the drag queens from the gay scene, or at least cut back on them.

    Don't get me wrong I have met a lot fo them in my life and performed with them on stage (Mr. KGRA 05). I know they can raise a lot of money for charity and once in a great while be enjoyable to watch.

    However here in Kansas City it seems they have taken over. I think every bar has soem sort of drag show at least once a week. A couple of the bars have 3 or more drag shows a week. It is the same Drag Queens preforming the same songs, in the same clothes on differnt nights. Most only lip sync and not very well either. I am feed up with them.

    KC has a gay country bar. Because of them the cowboys have been pushed out and limited to a few short hours on Saturday night. On Friday night, and Sunday there is not a bar in town that doesn't have them performing. It has driven me away from the gay bars.

    Anyone got a magic potion or solution?


    Yeah. Leave, backstabber.

    So why exactly do we need more cowboys and fewer drag queens? I've seen far more charity dollars stuffed into drag queens fake cleavage than I have in those ugly tight Wranglers (you know them...they're the ones make a man's ass look like a woman's).

    (says the man in Texas)

    P.S.: Cow-boi seems like quite the contradiction in terms.
  • swimbikerun

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    Jan 13, 2009 4:26 PM GMT
    Cowboiway said

    Anyone got a magic potion or solution?
    Drink a potion that'd make you go away. Don't like drag queens? Don't go out!
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    Jan 13, 2009 4:28 PM GMT
    OK, reading this thread really pissed me off until I came to this post. Without a doubt this is the single most fabulous post I have ever seen on RJ. Especially the chicken bit is awesome. Your like, like, the new Laurie Anderson.


    AMT87 saidI go somewhere else in the bar with my friends or if they want to watch it tolerate it, most of the time will refuse to clap but occasionally will clap politely if the performer is some what talented....

    The drag queens are often accompanied by two emaciated emo freaks that spin around in circle really fast while tearing off there clothes wrapping each other up in saran wrap and throwing various random objects around the stage. I'm told for some people this passes as entertainment

    Anyway they seek audience participation from good looking people. I'm not conceited the clientele in this bar is mostly well ugly people. They always try and get me up there, I usually stand far enough back to avoid this.

    One day after polity declining their invitation several times, there was significant pressure from the crowd for me to participate and I caved. The result was I had to stand on stage holding a smelly dripping raw chicken in various random positions. Until one of them came up and slapped on my head.

    I never return to that bar again
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    Jan 13, 2009 4:28 PM GMT
    Caslon8000 saidWhen the economics of the drag queen shows fades, so will the shows. Evidiently the others in your town are enjoying them. I am with you tho, personally. I dont care to watch a dq show. Drag queens usuallly have a great sense of humor and I enjoy joining them in conversation while standing around in a bar....but to have to watch the lip-syncing....not so much.

    Agreed, it's the law of supply & demand that will reduce their numbers, if & when they stop making money for the bars & clubs. To make that happen, Cowboiway and his friends of like opinion should not patronize places when queens appear.

    I was very much into the drag scene before I moved to Florida, mostly doing tech support and sometimes a turn in heels myself. My favorite thing was lighting, and I loved to personally run the follow spotlight. It's an art to keep them in the spot, when most never rehearse with you, and they rarely seem to do their act the same way twice.

    I certainly have my complaints about them, like their chronic lateness, bitchy attitudes backstage, unreasonable last-minute demands, and general lack of discipline & professionalism. And I know this from working with them for years, and a sometimes drag queen myself.

    But a good drag show can be a wonder to behold, and for about a year I was associated with productions that were stunning. Not merely a solo drag queen in front of a plain curtain lip-syncing, but elaborate production numbers with backup singers & dancers, queens singing in their own voices, full stage sets, the whole theatre experience.

    And sometimes we'd do a complete Broadway show from start to finish, Grease being one of my favorites. The drag queens took the female roles, and the drag "kings" (lesbians as men) took the male roles. We'd have cars on stage, set changes for all the major numbers, it was wonderful, way beyond what you usually imagine for a drag show.

    Here in the Fort Lauderdale area we have the all-drag supper club "Lips" which puts on shows nightly, plus Sunday brunch. Funny, entertaining, and a draw with straight tourists as well as local gay folk. I recommend it if you're in town.

    http://www.yelp.com/biz/lips-florida-oakland-park

    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/gaysouthflorida/2008/02/lip-sync-at-oak.html
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    Jan 13, 2009 4:29 PM GMT
    Cowboiway said

    Anyone got a magic potion or solution?


    Why don't you try going to a blithering-idiot bar instead, I am sure you would meet an endless number of people who act and think just as you do.
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    Jan 13, 2009 4:31 PM GMT
    ursamajor said
    Why don't you try going to a blithering-idiot bar instead, I am sure you would meet an endless number of people who act and think just as you do.


    Considering a real cowboy bar isn't going to enjoy having a "cowboi" in their midst?
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    Jan 13, 2009 4:32 PM GMT
    i love how fat cowboy just sent me an e-mail telling me i was fat... um... im not a the geriatric fat guy wearing cowboy hats... who the hell does that? someone took that mountain movie with the recently dead guy seriously. NO! that fact is, you open your fat mouth and typed with your stubby fat man fingers too soon. now you have this entire thread against you (:


    ps, if im fat you're an obese troll! now go away and eat a busted egg roll! ugh... and while you're add it, go find a different gimmick! no one thinks cowboys hats are hot... but thats okay, we all know you're just trying to hide that receding hairline (: my suggestion is a cute little boston or nyc baseball cap... its cute subtle and up to date.
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    Jan 13, 2009 4:32 PM GMT
    Drag Queens in this town raise so much money for our GLBT center, AIDS Community Services, Planned Parenthood, food pantries, and a dozen other charities. If burgeoning queens need to cut their teeth lip synching Diana Ross remixes in order to get to the Imperial Court, then I will stuff a couple of bills into their rack.

    But, if I don't feel like a drag show, I go somewhere else or I get a drink, settle into a far corner of the bar and chat with someone until the shoe is over.
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    Jan 13, 2009 4:34 PM GMT
    jrunner25 saidi love how fat cowboy just sent me an e-mail telling me i was fat... um... im not a the geriatric fat guy wearing cowboy hats... who the hell does that? someone took that mountain movie with the recently dead guy seriously. NO! that fact is, you open your fat mouth and typed with your stubby fat man fingers too soon. now you have this entire thread against you (:


    ps, if im fat you're an obese troll! now go away and eat a busted egg roll! ugh... and while you're add it, go find a different gimmick! no one thinks cowboys hats are hot... but thats okay, we all know you're just trying to hide that receding hairline (: my suggestion is a cute little boston or nyc baseball cap... its cute subtle and up to date.


    "fat" is only a scathing insult to people who live in LA (and preteens), by the way.
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    Jan 13, 2009 4:35 PM GMT
    RuggerATX said
    "fat" is only a scathing insult to people who live in LA (and preteens), by the way.


    And the manorexics who need their thinspiration!
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    Jan 13, 2009 4:37 PM GMT
    well count me in as a preteen manorexic 25 yo (: omg, i need to lose 3lbs! these kaltiene bars arent working... CADIE!
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    Jan 13, 2009 4:38 PM GMT
    Ugh I know what you mean... You've had a stressful day at work.. you just want to go out.. have a peaceful drink or maybe dance.. and now you're stuck listening to this man bitch buzzed of vodka 7's rip out of towners new assholes.. lipsync some way back play back or bitch track with a techno beat..

    I find Saturday nights they are rare too find. Even at Fly they have a little moment when they come out but usually then they put on a performance.. it's usually only to sing some song and they have hot back up dancers and its well done.