St. Patrick's Day Parade Organizers Say Gay Group to [Finally] March Under Own Banner

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    Sep 03, 2014 12:16 PM GMT
    "Organizers of the world's largest St. Patrick's Day Parade say they're ending a ban and allowing a gay group to march under its own banner for the first time.

    The prohibition on identified gay groups in the centuries-old New York parade had made participation a political issue. Democratic Mayor Bill de Blasio refused to march this year, and Guinness beer dropped its sponsorship.

    The parade committee, in a statement made available to The Associated Press, said on Wednesday that OUT@NBCUniversal, a lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender support group at the company that broadcasts the parade, would be marching up Manhattan's Fifth Avenue on March 17 under an identifying banner."


    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/St-Patricks-Day-Parade-Gary-Group-March-Banner-NYC--273727021.html
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    Sep 03, 2014 1:10 PM GMT
    Interesting... wonder if other groups will be allowed to register. My organization has had a presence in the St. Pat's for All Parade in Queens for a number of years.
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    Sep 03, 2014 1:30 PM GMT
    ShiftyJK08 saidInteresting... wonder if other groups will be allowed to register. My organization has had a presence in the St. Pat's for All Parade in Queens for a number of years.

    The article noted that the LGBT employee group marching is from the official provider of TV coverage for the parade, NBC Universal. Whose website is where this article appeared.

    So perhaps a cozy insider arrangement, to help ensure the live color coverage is non-critical. I do wonder why there can't be any other gay groups, the article implying there'll be only one. Maybe that'll change before March, 2015.
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    Sep 03, 2014 2:56 PM GMT
    NYC St. Patrick's Day Parade to end anti-gay ban


    For the first time in the parade's 253-year history, it will allow LGBT organizations to march under their own banner.


    http://www.glaad.org/blog/nyc-st-patricks-day-parade-end-anti-gay-ban
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    Sep 03, 2014 3:24 PM GMT
    metta8 saidNYC St. Patrick's Day Parade to end anti-gay ban

    For the first time in the parade's 253-year history, it will allow LGBT organizations to march under their own banner.

    http://www.glaad.org/blog/nyc-st-patricks-day-parade-end-anti-gay-ban

    "Organizers say that other LGBT organizations can apply to march in future years. NBC has broadcast the parade for the past several years." [My emphasis. And note the one gay group allowed to march consists of NBC employees]

    Yeah, that's what I thought I was reading in the first link. Why "in future years", why not THIS YEAR? Testing the waters? Seeing if this brings God's wrath down upon them?
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    Sep 03, 2014 3:39 PM GMT
    Festus omnibus, festus neminem est.
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    Sep 04, 2014 1:18 AM GMT
    I'm new to being gay so if this statement pisses you off chalk it up to my ignorance.
    But... so what? It's just a parade.
    I'd be excited if a gay group could March in Kampala, but NYC?
    Is it because it shows gays are as good as anyone else? Do we need to be in a parade to show that?
    I'm not saying it's bad, just i cant get excited about it either.
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    Sep 04, 2014 2:44 AM GMT
    Wyndahoi saidI'm new to being gay so if this statement pisses you off chalk it up to my ignorance.

    I've been reading your other posts in threads. I'm beginning to detect a pattern of "willful ignorance".
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    Sep 04, 2014 2:57 AM GMT
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    Wyndahoi saidI'm new to being gay so if this statement pisses you off chalk it up to my ignorance.

    I've been reading your other posts in threads. I'm beginning to detect a pattern of "willful ignorance".


    I could stop asking questions. I'd still be ignorant, but you won't have to be bothered by it.

    Forget the caveats. It's an honest question- what is so great about getting to march in a parade on a Catholic holiday? What does that do for gay rights?
    Nothing that I can think of, but if there's something I'm not aware of feel free to enlighten me.
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    Sep 04, 2014 7:27 PM GMT
    I think this is a good step in the right direction.
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    Sep 05, 2014 12:38 AM GMT
    Wyndahoi said
    Art_Deco said
    Wyndahoi saidI'm new to being gay so if this statement pisses you off chalk it up to my ignorance.

    I've been reading your other posts in threads. I'm beginning to detect a pattern of "willful ignorance".


    I could stop asking questions. I'd still be ignorant, but you won't have to be bothered by it.

    Forget the caveats. It's an honest question- what is so great about getting to march in a parade on a Catholic holiday? What does that do for gay rights?
    Nothing that I can think of, but if there's something I'm not aware of feel free to enlighten me.


    Well, there are gay Irish Catholics (ILGO) and enough interest to have started the St. Pat's for All Parade in Queens as I mentioned above. I'm guessing they feel just as proud of their heritage as their straight peers, but don't think they should have to lie about their identity/orientation to participate.

    Will it change anything in the grand scheme of things? You are most likely right that it will not, but my instinct whenever anybody says "You can't" is "Why not?" so I applaud when others do likewise.

    This is a giant event in NYC that attracts a lot of people (most of whom are neither Irish nor Catholic) but the Hibernian's refusal to get with the times has been costing them some goodwill in recent years. If I recall in addition to the mayor and several large corporate sponsors, the Prime Minister of Ireland told them where they could put it when they invited her to march.
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    Sep 05, 2014 1:03 AM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    Wyndahoi saidI'm new to being gay so if this statement pisses you off chalk it up to my ignorance.

    I've been reading your other posts in threads. I'm beginning to detect a pattern of "willful ignorance".

    I could stop asking questions. I'd still be ignorant, but you won't have to be bothered by it.

    Forget the caveats. It's an honest question- what is so great about getting to march in a parade on a Catholic holiday? What does that do for gay rights?

    Nothing that I can think of, but if there's something I'm not aware of feel free to enlighten me.

    Willful ignorance means you don't WANT to be enlightened. You are ignorant for a purpose.

    And here we find an example of DOUBLE willful ignorance: not wanting to know what willful ignorance itself is.

    Nobody can be that ignorant. Your act isn't working. I suggest you try a different ploy. Perhaps just say you oppose anything that shows gays in a positive light, and that promotes being gay. Isn't that easier?
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    Sep 05, 2014 1:59 AM GMT
    Shifty- that makes sense. Thanks.

    Art- believe what you want. I dont do 'ploys'. But if this isn't an ok place to ask questions what is?
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    Sep 05, 2014 5:47 AM GMT
    so the organizers are 'ending a ban' . . do LGBT groups have any representation as part of the organizing group? how diverse is the organizing group? because ideally, you'd really like to hear them say that they welcome all kind of every group . .much more of a positive messageicon_smile.gif
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    Sep 05, 2014 3:15 PM GMT
    Wyndahoi saidShifty- that makes sense. Thanks.

    Art- believe what you want. I dont do 'ploys'. But if this isn't an ok place to ask questions what is?


    +1. Take "Art's" post-meridian posts with a grain of salt, given that they appear to be delivered with a dram of booze, not that his teetotalers are more desirable.