7th Circuit Court of Appeals Ends WI & IN's Gay Marriage Bans

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    Sep 04, 2014 8:44 PM GMT
    GOP-appointee Judge Posner's opinion is alternatively ponderous and flip, and could be better organized by using some headings, but he gets the right result. Look for the two states to seek rehearing en banc, if not certiorari from SCOTUS as well.

    http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/rssExec.pl?Submit=Display&Path=Y2014/D09-04/C:14-2387:J: Posner:aut:T:fnOp:N:1412337:S:0

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    Sep 05, 2014 10:12 PM GMT
    Judge Posner offered up this great remark in his ruling:

    "Heterosexuals get drunk and pregnant, producing unwanted children;

    their reward is to be allowed to marry.

    Homosexual couples do not produce unwanted children;

    their reward is to be denied the right to marry.

    Go figure."



    -- in Thursday’s ruling by 7th Circuit Judge Richard Posner, which struck down Indiana’s and Wisconsin’s gay marriage bans

    Proving that conservatives can be funny!
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    Sep 06, 2014 3:51 AM GMT

    I thought that Wisconsin being the more progressive and liberal/libertarian of the two states affected by this federal ruling would just accept it and move onto more pressing issues in their state. I am not surprised by Indiana wanting to appeal this federal ruling because Indiana can be stubbornly backward and ultra conservative. It is difficult to predict what will happen in Indiana because most of its people are extremely fickle. Its two largest cities, Indianapolis and Fort Wayne tend to be quite conservative and red republican. In stark contrast Gary, Hammond, and Michigan City in northwestern Indiana are staunchly blue democrat probably the only heavily democratic area in the whole state. Indiana is just a strange and unpredictable state where anything can happen.
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    Sep 06, 2014 7:44 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    I thought that Wisconsin being the more progressive and liberal/libertarian of the two states affected by this federal ruling would just accept it and move onto more pressing issues in their state. I am not surprised by Indiana wanting to appeal this federal ruling because Indiana can be stubbornly backward and ultra conservative. It is difficult to predict what will happen in Indiana because most of its people are extremely fickle. Its two largest cities, Indianapolis and Fort Wayne tend to be quite conservative and red republican. In stark contrast Gary, Hammond, and Michigan City in northwestern Indiana are staunchly blue democrat probably the only heavily democratic area in the whole state. Indiana is just a strange and unpredictable state where anything can happen.


    Yes, including the birth of the Ku Klux Klan and the creation of a Vice-President who couldn't spell "potato."
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    Sep 06, 2014 7:48 AM GMT
    Determinate saidJudge Posner offered up this great remark in his ruling:

    "Heterosexuals get drunk and pregnant, producing unwanted children;

    their reward is to be allowed to marry.

    Homosexual couples do not produce unwanted children;

    their reward is to be denied the right to marry.

    Go figure."



    -- in Thursday’s ruling by 7th Circuit Judge Richard Posner, which struck down Indiana’s and Wisconsin’s gay marriage bans

    Proving that conservatives can be funny!


    Great quotation!

    Posner would have been a great Supreme Court judge, which is why he'll never be appointed to it now. He's a conservative whose rulings I no doubt would often have disagreed with, but he would have brought to the court a lively, creative, nonideological mind, unlike the 5 hidebound zealots of middling to less intellectual capacity that rule the court now and for the foreseeable future. It's time for a constitutional amendment giving justices one term of 12 years. That's long enough to be one/fifth of an entire branch of the federal government.
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    Sep 06, 2014 11:21 PM GMT
    muscleONmuscle1 said
    roadbikeRob said
    I thought that Wisconsin being the more progressive and liberal/libertarian of the two states affected by this federal ruling would just accept it and move onto more pressing issues in their state. I am not surprised by Indiana wanting to appeal this federal ruling because Indiana can be stubbornly backward and ultra conservative. It is difficult to predict what will happen in Indiana because most of its people are extremely fickle. Its two largest cities, Indianapolis and Fort Wayne tend to be quite conservative and red republican. In stark contrast Gary, Hammond, and Michigan City in northwestern Indiana are staunchly blue democrat probably the only heavily democratic area in the whole state. Indiana is just a strange and unpredictable state where anything can happen.


    Yes, including the birth of the Ku Klux Klan and the creation of a Vice-President who couldn't spell "potato."


    Ummm, the KKK was initially founded in TN, and then had its second iteration in GA. While certainly strong in IN during the 1920's, it was not "birthed" there, though Dan Quayle was.

    NW IN's Calumet Region, which now extends from Whiting to MI City, has always been more a suburb of Chicago than a part of IN; it was the last part of the state to be settled and it grew eastward from Chicago. Most Hoosiers south of US 30 revile it, in no small part because of its large Black, Latino, Slavic, and more recently, Asian population; most Regionites regard the rest of the state as hickdom, although those perceptions are nowhere as fixed as they once were. And, Lake Cty., the heart of "the Region," has the second highest GOP registration of all IN counties, though Democrats generally hold sway there, in one of the most politically corrupt counties in the US east of neighboring Cook in IL.
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    Sep 07, 2014 6:03 AM GMT
    MGINSD said
    muscleONmuscle1 said
    roadbikeRob said
    I thought that Wisconsin being the more progressive and liberal/libertarian of the two states affected by this federal ruling would just accept it and move onto more pressing issues in their state. I am not surprised by Indiana wanting to appeal this federal ruling because Indiana can be stubbornly backward and ultra conservative. It is difficult to predict what will happen in Indiana because most of its people are extremely fickle. Its two largest cities, Indianapolis and Fort Wayne tend to be quite conservative and red republican. In stark contrast Gary, Hammond, and Michigan City in northwestern Indiana are staunchly blue democrat probably the only heavily democratic area in the whole state. Indiana is just a strange and unpredictable state where anything can happen.


    Yes, including the birth of the Ku Klux Klan and the creation of a Vice-President who couldn't spell "potato."


    Ummm, the KKK was initially founded in TN, and then had its second iteration in GA. While certainly strong in IN during the 1920's, it was not "birthed" there, though Dan Quayle was.

    NW IN's Calumet Region, which now extends from Whiting to MI City, has always been more a suburb of Chicago than a part of IN; it was the last part of the state to be settled and it grew eastward from Chicago. Most Hoosiers south of US 30 revile it, in no small part because of its large Black, Latino, Slavic, and more recently, Asian population; most Regionites regard the rest of the state as hickdom, although those perceptions are nowhere as fixed as they once were. And, Lake Cty., the heart of "the Region," has the second highest GOP registration of all IN counties, though Democrats generally hold sway there, in one of the most politically corrupt counties in the US east of neighboring Cook in IL.

    I was born, raised, and still live in Lake County. I think you've got us down pat, although I was shocked to hear about the GOP registration numbers here!!