Federal Judge in Louisiana UPHOLDS Gay Marriage Ban

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    Sep 05, 2014 2:16 AM GMT
    “Although opinions about same-sex marriage will understandably vary among the states, and other states in free and open debate will and have chosen differently, that does not mandate that Louisiana has overstepped its sovereign authority.”


    http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-louisiana-marriage-ban-20140903-story.html
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    Sep 05, 2014 3:18 AM GMT

    I will not be surprised when a federal court upholds Texas gay marriage ban given the fact that the overwhelming majority of Texans are very conservative and very religious.
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    Sep 05, 2014 3:32 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    I will not be surprised when a federal court upholds Texas gay marriage ban given the fact that the overwhelming majority of Texans are very conservative and very religious.



    Yeah, why would they bother to read the 14th Amendment, when their job might be at stake. The reason those clauses are there at the Federal level is so people can't vote away other people's rights at the state level. It is SUPPOSED to take a Constitutional amendment to do that, which is a much higher and national bar to have to jump over to make a change like that, not that it cannot be done if enough people are bigoted and homophobic, and poisoned by the "conservative" versions of "religion".
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    Sep 05, 2014 9:07 PM GMT
    StephenOABC said“Although opinions about same-sex marriage will understandably vary among the states, and other states in free and open debate will and have chosen differently, that does not mandate that Louisiana has overstepped its sovereign authority.”


    http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-louisiana-marriage-ban-20140903-story.html

    Um... the 14Th Amendment would say otherwise.
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    Sep 05, 2014 10:44 PM GMT
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    StephenOABC said“Although opinions about same-sex marriage will understandably vary among the states, and other states in free and open debate will and have chosen differently, that does not mandate that Louisiana has overstepped its sovereign authority.”


    http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-louisiana-marriage-ban-20140903-story.html

    Um... the 14Th Amendment would say otherwise.


    Then it would be an issue for the Supreme Court.

    I wish you Nellies would quit being bitches. This is all part of the process. If a judge has reason to decide that certain criteria have not been met (for example, violation of the 14th amendment), then it's important to get it sorted out now, before it goes to the SC and gets slapped down for good.
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    Sep 06, 2014 12:05 AM GMT
    Right.
    I guess we should have let every state arrive at desegregation at their own pace as well.
    How would that have gone over in Little Rock and at Ole Miss and at the Univ of Alabama?
    Civil rights should never be subject to the tyranny of the majority.
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    Sep 06, 2014 1:46 AM GMT
    Koastal saidRight.
    I guess we should have let every state arrive at desegregation at their own pace as well.
    How would that have gone over in Little Rock and at Ole Miss and at the Univ of Alabama?
    Civil rights should never be subject to the tyranny of the majority.


    So do you want a federal law mandating the recognition of same-sex marriage?
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    Sep 06, 2014 1:58 AM GMT
    Jack_NNJ said
    So do you want a federal law mandating the recognition of same-sex marriage?

    Yes, I do. And what do YOU want? Do YOU support the right of States to enact gay marriage, that other States must recognize?
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    Sep 06, 2014 3:34 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Koastal saidRight.
    I guess we should have let every state arrive at desegregation at their own pace as well.
    How would that have gone over in Little Rock and at Ole Miss and at the Univ of Alabama?
    Civil rights should never be subject to the tyranny of the majority.


    Exactly. Which is why Obama's "evolving" on the issue is a major FAIL.
    This is a reason why I am disappointed in Obama. He is acting indecisive when he says let it evolve. There is a serious lack of leadership on his part. I am so sick and damned tired of all these politicians making all these wonderful, lofty campaign promises and than when they are elected and the time arrives for some serious leadership on an issue, they suddenly get scared and make up all kinds of bullshit nonsense why they cannot take a stand. Obama is in his second and final four year term as US President. Since he doesn't have to worry about reelection campaigns, why doesn't he start exhibiting some strong leadership skills and take a stand on issues and deliver on his wonderful, lofty campaign promisesicon_question.gif
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    Sep 06, 2014 4:19 AM GMT
    Jack_NNJ said
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    StephenOABC said“Although opinions about same-sex marriage will understandably vary among the states, and other states in free and open debate will and have chosen differently, that does not mandate that Louisiana has overstepped its sovereign authority.”


    http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-louisiana-marriage-ban-20140903-story.html

    Um... the 14Th Amendment would say otherwise.


    Then it would be an issue for the Supreme Court.

    I wish you Nellies would quit being bitches. This is all part of the process. If a judge has reason to decide that certain criteria have not been met (for example, violation of the 14th amendment), then it's important to get it sorted out now, before it goes to the SC and gets slapped down for good.

    Your right it is part of the system. Doesnt mean its not frustrating tp see the ban overturned a number of times setting the presidence that the ban is a flawed law. So why scrutinize iit yet again? Is the issue of civil liberties diffrent if i cross a state border? It shouldnt be its still the US.
    Thanks for singling out my post and attaching the term Nellie and bitches to it.
    It speaks volumes.
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    Sep 06, 2014 12:20 PM GMT
    What do you mean by "the ban"?
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    Sep 06, 2014 2:15 PM GMT
    Jack_NNJ saidWhat do you mean by "the ban"?

    I was refrencing the title. Gay marrage ban.
    Your an intellegent man dont be intentionally obtuse.
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    Sep 06, 2014 3:44 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]southbeach1500 said[/cite]
    Koastal saidRight.
    I guess we should have let every state arrive at desegregation at their own pace as well.
    How would that have gone over in Little Rock and at Ole Miss and at the Univ of Alabama?
    Civil rights should never be subject to the tyranny of the majority.


    Exactly. Which is why Obama's "evolving" on the issue is a major FAIL.[/quote




    Don't really understand why you keep referring to Obama's evolving on marriage equality, or what exactly that has to do w my point. The entire nation (public opinion) has 'evolved' on this issue.

    We live in a mobile society. Is there any practicality or benefit to society to allow a couple to be married in one state and in the event that they have to move for work or whatever reason they are now 'not married' in their new state. Please explain your logic.

    We get it that you're a neo con and you don't like the President. Despite that, please enlighten us w your thoughts on why we should go about this on a state by state basis. Feel free to use desegregation as an example.
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    Sep 06, 2014 8:58 PM GMT
    Oh I'm sorry about the quote button, that sure was messy. I have a life so not too savvy on this new fangled stuff.

    Let me get this straight, Obama and the 'gay loving' democrats made a decision based on its potential political advantage. Well there's a novel strategy we've never seen used by any other political party ever. This administration has done exponentially more to advance the cause of gay civil rights than any other ever....and you well know it.

    I do not agree w too much that Obama's done, but I see your posts frequently enough to know that you've never had a positive word to say about the guy and the Democratic Party. That's entirely your right. To me, reality always trumps ideology.
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    Sep 06, 2014 9:02 PM GMT
    No surprise. This judge is Reagan-appointed Right Wing judicial trash. He decided based on his party ideology, not on the Constitution merits of the case.
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    Sep 06, 2014 10:15 PM GMT
    I bet Southbeach and Riddler are fighting over a big black two headed dildo over this.
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    Sep 07, 2014 1:27 AM GMT
    RespectablyBuffed said
    Jack_NNJ saidWhat do you mean by "the ban"?

    I was refrencing the title. Gay marrage ban.
    Your an intellegent man dont be intentionally obtuse.


    You really shouldn't speak. Ever.
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    Sep 07, 2014 11:24 PM GMT
    It's Louisianna bro. What would you expect? You have read the history of the southern parts of the United States yes?
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    Sep 08, 2014 1:01 AM GMT
    declansloan saidIt's Louisianna bro. What would you expect? You have read the history of the southern parts of the United States yes?
    Louisiana is exactly like its giant western neighbor Texas, ultra religious and ultra stupid. Go figure.